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Top Malay student scores A1 for Chinese

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SINGAPORE'S top Malay student, Nadiah Nadhirah Abdul, grew up watching Chinese dramas, which might be why she decided to take Chinese as a third language when she was in Secondary 1.

The Riverside Secondary student scored A1s in English, Malay and Chinese, getting nine distinctions - seven A1s and two A2s - when the O-levels results were released yesterday.
With the encouragement of her parents and teachers, Nadiah, 16, chose the Chinese Special Programme, despite having to travel about an hour by train from Woodlands to Clementi Town Secondary twice a week, as her school did not offer the programme.
Nadiah also travelled to Bukit Panjang Government High twice a week for Higher Malay lessons.
By the end of Secondary 2, Nadiah had decided to concentrate on her Chinese studies, dropping Higher Malay.
'I found the Chinese lessons interesting, and I still have Malay to fall back on even if I don't take Higher Malay,' said the elder daughter of a finance supervisor and housewife.
But it was not easy picking up a language from scratch, she said.
'I didn't understand anything at all at the beginning. And while learning hanyu pinyin was okay, it was tough pronouncing the four tones. I keep getting them all wrong,' said Nadiah.
Eventually, she became one of only 13 students to complete the difficult course, from the original 80 students from various schools who took it.
'I can tell she enjoys it, even though she finds it tough,' said her mother Bibi Kahtoon S. Bahadur, 46. 'I'm glad she stuck with it.'
Nadiah's interest in Chinese and her ability to pick it up were certainly helped by her parents' love for Chinese TV dramas. From before she was born, her father Abdul Majid Hamzah, 50, and Madam Bibi would watch the shows, reading the subtitles.
When their daughters were born, the habit continued and the family still watch the TV shows avidly.
In order to help with her oral Chinese, Nadiah signed up for the Chinese Oral Proficiency Test offered by the Regional Language Centre Exams Bureau and received a distinction.
She also did well in her oral examination in school and said it was her friends who ensured the result.
'My Chinese friends refused to answer me in anything other than Mandarin in the weeks leading up to the exams, so I could improve my oral skills,' she said.
Her mum helps by buying newspapers in the languages Nadiah studies.
'At least now I'm more confident speaking in Mandarin,' said Nadiah, who hopes to enter National Junior College.
Her Chinese teacher at Clementi Town Secondary, Miss Woong Choy Wan, 29, said she is not surprised by Nadiah's good results. 'She always turns up for class and participates actively. Her pronunciation is not perfect but she is willing to speak up. That's important.'
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A trojan horse for sure. ;)
 
it shows that they also know the important of the China's market.
 
Looks like she may have some chinese blood in her.

Was my "prima facie" impression too.

What the govt failed to mention in its push to study Chinese (or more accurately Mandarin) is that one is actually competing against more than 1 billion "native speakers" -not to mention the millions of overseas chinese all over the world.

So ability in Mandarin is not a rare commodity and people with knowlege of Mandarin is the most numerous and easily available.
If we follow Law of Supply and Demand-means its of low value.

There are also no shortage of non chinese who knows Mandarin-China has millions of non Chinese(non Han people) who are schooled in Mandarin.

Looking on a worlwide basis,I would even say that Mandarin speakers are amongst the lowest paid people in the world (using salaries in China as an indicator).
 
big deal, i used to have this malay colleauge who can speak hokkien and i can speak malay too with him
 
Was my "prima facie" impression too.

What the govt failed to mention in its push to study Chinese (or more accurately Mandarin) is that one is actually competing against more than 1 billion "native speakers" -not to mention the millions of overseas chinese all over the world.

So ability in Mandarin is not a rare commodity and people with knowlege of Mandarin is the most numerous and easily available.
If we follow Law of Supply and Demand-means its of low value.

There are also no shortage of non chinese who knows Mandarin-China has millions of non Chinese(non Han people) who are schooled in Mandarin.

Looking on a worlwide basis,I would even say that Mandarin speakers are amongst the lowest paid people in the world (using salaries in China as an indicator).

so please tell study what language is the best? study english language no competition from the others?
 
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SINGAPORE'S top Malay student, Nadiah Nadhirah Abdul, grew up watching Chinese dramas, which might be why she decided to take Chinese as a third language when she was in Secondary 1.

The Riverside Secondary student scored A1s in English, Malay and Chinese, getting nine distinctions - seven A1s and two A2s - when the O-levels results were released yesterday.
With the encouragement of her parents and teachers, Nadiah, 16, chose the Chinese Special Programme, despite having to travel about an hour by train from Woodlands to Clementi Town Secondary twice a week, as her school did not offer the programme.
Nadiah also travelled to Bukit Panjang Government High twice a week for Higher Malay lessons.
By the end of Secondary 2, Nadiah had decided to concentrate on her Chinese studies, dropping Higher Malay.
'I found the Chinese lessons interesting, and I still have Malay to fall back on even if I don't take Higher Malay,' said the elder daughter of a finance supervisor and housewife.
But it was not easy picking up a language from scratch, she said.
'I didn't understand anything at all at the beginning. And while learning hanyu pinyin was okay, it was tough pronouncing the four tones. I keep getting them all wrong,' said Nadiah.
Eventually, she became one of only 13 students to complete the difficult course, from the original 80 students from various schools who took it.
'I can tell she enjoys it, even though she finds it tough,' said her mother Bibi Kahtoon S. Bahadur, 46. 'I'm glad she stuck with it.'
Nadiah's interest in Chinese and her ability to pick it up were certainly helped by her parents' love for Chinese TV dramas. From before she was born, her father Abdul Majid Hamzah, 50, and Madam Bibi would watch the shows, reading the subtitles.
When their daughters were born, the habit continued and the family still watch the TV shows avidly.
In order to help with her oral Chinese, Nadiah signed up for the Chinese Oral Proficiency Test offered by the Regional Language Centre Exams Bureau and received a distinction.
She also did well in her oral examination in school and said it was her friends who ensured the result.
'My Chinese friends refused to answer me in anything other than Mandarin in the weeks leading up to the exams, so I could improve my oral skills,' she said.
Her mum helps by buying newspapers in the languages Nadiah studies.
'At least now I'm more confident speaking in Mandarin,' said Nadiah, who hopes to enter National Junior College.
Her Chinese teacher at Clementi Town Secondary, Miss Woong Choy Wan, 29, said she is not surprised by Nadiah's good results. 'She always turns up for class and participates actively. Her pronunciation is not perfect but she is willing to speak up. That's important.'
[email protected]


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So what, in Secondary school, my malay classes were taught by a Chinese teacher. His Malay is much better than a mandarin, and better than most malays.
 
so please tell study what language is the best? study english language no competition from the others?

In my personal opinion no language is the best.All languages are the same -i.e a means of communication.

What I find unusual is that in S'pore,the govt is glorifying the use of Mandarin-because it wants to do more business with China. The knowledge of more languages is no doubt good and there is no need to put one language on a higher pedestal than others.Many of us are not native speakers of English and yet go on to score A1 not only in Englsh but also English Literature.

If you go to MOELC (Ministry of Education Language Centre) you will find many S'pore students scoring A1 for Japanese,French and German-why are'nt any of them featured in the news.Are Japanese,German or French languages inferior to Mandarin?

Why choose to feature on a Malay who score A1 for Mandarin? Is it a well balanced and accurate reporting ?- is there something that's more than meets the eye.
 
So what, in Secondary school, my malay classes were taught by a Chinese teacher. His Malay is much better than a mandarin, and better than most malays.

The person who wrote the Bahasa/chinese, Bahasa/English is also a chinese..brother of our late 林清祥。
 
It's good that she decides to study mandarin. This is singapore and yes the importance of china counts too.

She does look chinese too but since the muslim/m&d thing is that once u breed or marry into their religion ur other ethnic groups just vanishes and ur malay.


Anyway it's not a big deal. Chinese ppl speak german, polish, malay, thai etc and so do many germans, other ang mohs, africans can speak mandarin and chinese dialects too.

What's more this is sg where the majority race is chinese, it's easier to pick it up.

Btw glad she prefers the chinese dramas to the m&d ones. :D:D
 
smart gal. languages very important. if she learn hindi, she all set for the asiapac market.
 
Chinese is not as difficult a language to learn. I have managed to pick up some Shanghainese and Mandarin during my 2 year stay in China.

My 5 year old daughter has also started speaking Mandarin since we moved to Singapore. I would want her to be able to converse fluently in Mandarin when she grows up.
 
Chinese is not as difficult a language to learn. I have managed to pick up some Shanghainese and Mandarin during my 2 year stay in China.

My 5 year old daughter has also started speaking Mandarin since we moved to Singapore. I would want her to be able to converse fluently in Mandarin when she grows up.



oic what race are u btw?
 
In my personal opinion no language is the best.All languages are the same -i.e a means of communication.

What I find unusual is that in S'pore,the govt is glorifying the use of Mandarin-because it wants to do more business with China. The knowledge of more languages is no doubt good and there is no need to put one language on a higher pedestal than others.Many of us are not native speakers of English and yet go on to score A1 not only in Englsh but also English Literature.

If you go to MOELC (Ministry of Education Language Centre) you will find many S'pore students scoring A1 for Japanese,French and German-why are'nt any of them featured in the news.Are Japanese,German or French languages inferior to Mandarin?

Why choose to feature on a Malay who score A1 for Mandarin? Is it a well balanced and accurate reporting ?- is there something that's more than meets the eye.

u had read too much into it. its not glorify. put it this way, if a chinese score A1 for tamil, if i am the editor, i want that story to be printed too.
 
Oh big deal!!!! Why I can speak Malay and Indonesian as well.
 
While China market is in demand, everybody die-die must speak chinese and those non-chinese have to follow suit taking up chinese language course.

India market will soon pick up to beat china market while india population is believed will have larger population than china in the next 10-20 years.

Are we going to learn to speak Tamil just to accomodate to the market changes just like now for non-chinese learning to speak chinese to accomodate to the China market?
 
While China market is in demand, everybody die-die must speak chinese and those non-chinese have to follow suit taking up chinese language course.

India market will soon pick up to beat china market while india population is believed will have larger population than china in the next 10-20 years.

Are we going to learn to speak Tamil just to accomodate to the market changes just like now for non-chinese learning to speak chinese to accomodate to the China market?

simple. it comes down to this.

if a language is worth learning it. learn it. if a language is not worth learning, then fuck it.

to many of the sporean chinese, they don't think chinese is worth learning. chinese language and culture are dirt to them. well just fuck it. don't learn it. simple as that.

but i know there're so much wisdom in chinese culture. so i will keep on using chinese, reading chinese, speaking mandarin.

to each its own.
 
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