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Tired of living? Buy a Tesla! (Part 2)

blackmondy

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wah don't know it's so bad with Apple now. I've always been a windows user since 3.1 with some brief encounters with the Mac along the way.
I deal with macs from 2000 to 2016 on a professional level and I can tell you Apple is a fucked-up totalitarian company. Apple employees are a fucked-up bunch of elitist assholes, especially those in management level.
Many Apple fanboys on Youtube have switched to Windows because they cannot tolerate the incessant sodomy anymore from the company they have supported for decades.
 

amransan

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total i had 4 imac computer over the years and i say i regretted buying them.

my 1st imac was the most beautiful computer where the screen can move any direction u want and it is connected to the mase like half round ball.
after i bought it then i realise the command is different then PC and the games and software dam expensive so i put a side and rarely use it and just before 2 years the warrenty expired(left one month) the imac motherboard crash so they replace me with another new imac.

the second imac i started to use it editing the video and same thing just before the 2 years warrenty expired the imac motherboard crash and same thing they replace me with a new imac computer and the 3rd one i only used it for one year and then i decided to buy PC and since then my imac in my garage collecting dust for 10 years already lol
 

syed putra

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total i had 4 imac computer over the years and i say i regretted buying them.

my 1st imac was the most beautiful computer where the screen can move any direction u want and it is connected to the mase like half round ball.
after i bought it then i realise the command is different then PC and the games and software dam expensive so i put a side and rarely use it and just before 2 years the warrenty expired(left one month) the imac motherboard crash so they replace me with another new imac.

the second imac i started to use it editing the video and same thing just before the 2 years warrenty expired the imac motherboard crash and same thing they replace me with a new imac computer and the 3rd one i only used it for one year and then i decided to buy PC and since then my imac in my garage collecting dust for 10 years already lol
Get a samsung tablet with s pen. It comes equipped with everything you will ever need for office work.
 

syed putra

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Tesla with Autopilot has nearly 10 times lower accident rate compared to normal cars in the US – Elon Musk



Tesla’s self-driving Autopilot feature has come under heavy scrutiny over the past few years, especially following increasing reports of crashes (some fatal) while the system is engaged. The situation seems to have improved, if the latest data released by the automaker is to be believed.
In the first quarter of 2021, Tesla registered one accident for every 4.19 million miles driven (6.74 million kilometres) in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. This increases to one accident for every 2.05 miles driven (3.3 million km) when Autopilot is not engaged, but with other advanced active safety features in play.
For those driving without Autopilot and without Tesla’s active safety features, there is one accident recorded for every 978,000 miles driven (1.57 million km). By comparison, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s most recent data shows that, in the United States, there is an automobile crash every 484,000 miles (778,922 km) on average.

Taking to Twitter, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said: “Tesla with Autopilot engaged now approaching 10 times lower chance of accident than average vehicle.” While this may be good news, note that statistics such as this can be quite varied.
In Q1 2020, Tesla registered one accident for every 4.68 million miles driven (7.53 million km) with Autopilot activated, which is a far better statistic than all the ensuing quarters since.
Meanwhile, in October last year, Tesla’s Autopilot system in the Model 3 was ranked sixth out of 10 by Euro NCAP. The assessment found that the Model 3 performed poorly in the field of driver engagement, because the Tesla’s steering strategy gave a more “binary impression” that either the car is driving itself or the driver has full control of the vehicle.
 

blackmondy

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total i had 4 imac computer over the years and i say i regretted buying them.

my 1st imac was the most beautiful computer where the screen can move any direction u want and it is connected to the mase like half round ball.
after i bought it then i realise the command is different then PC and the games and software dam expensive so i put a side and rarely use it and just before 2 years the warrenty expired(left one month) the imac motherboard crash so they replace me with another new imac.

the second imac i started to use it editing the video and same thing just before the 2 years warrenty expired the imac motherboard crash and same thing they replace me with a new imac computer and the 3rd one i only used it for one year and then i decided to buy PC and since then my imac in my garage collecting dust for 10 years already lol
The repair price for a mac is enough for you to buy a new PC. I deal with Windows and Macs in my profession and the mac users I deal with are creative people with an atas attitude.
 

nightsafari

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If you look at it another way, the Tesla car is basically an iPhone on wheels. You are at the whims and fancies of these companies.
Apple fanboys and Tesla fanboys both feel the need to be dictated by others and cannot be reasoned with when being confronted with valid arguments. That's why many tiongs and Biden cocksuckers love these gadgets.
There's actually a survey out on this. The #1 demographic that are committed fans to Tesla are Asians. This was conducted in America, so if you know Asian Americans, it supports your earlier statements too.
 

nightsafari

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in terms of the brand positioning, you're absolutely right. and we've all seen the success of Apple so it's a huge achievement for Tesla to attain similar cult status.

but if you dig into the story of Apple's success, one reason is basically because their shit works. Microsoft and everything Windows related crashes all the time. Back then, and now still. My brand new windows laptop suffered it's first crash a week into ownership. what's new.
that is entirely true. Especially back in the 90s. The difference was really poles apart.

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as I mentioned earlier, EVs are as much about software as it is hardware. anyone can slap together a couple of battery packs, inverters and motors onto a chassis. but to integrate it all with the OS and autonomous driving tech is a whole different ball game.

this is where I think Tesla has a genuine advantage over the traditional manufacturers. If you were a top software engineer, where would you rather work? Toyota or Tesla?
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sorry, I don't think I can agree with you here. But will seal my mouth for now. :smile:

At least the Europeans have gotten into the EV game in a big way. The Japanese are seriously screwed if they still think hydrogen fuel cell cars are going to be adopted by consumers.
This is interesting. Back in the day, I was convinced the fuel cells were the way to go. Now I'm not so sure. It's about use case.
 

nightsafari

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I admit the earlier Mac OS were better, like Lion. The latest ones are bloated and buggy as fuck. You should go check out Apple forums and see for yourself. Apple is on a rampage deleting posts that make them look bad. Does that sound familiar ?
Apple is like a mini-CCPee. Even if Apple make good products, I'll still boycott and badmouth them.
have to agree with you. I've been away from Apple for many years. It was seriously amazing stuff decades ago, but the divergence between the two has shrunk to next to indistinguishable except for the "marketing" hyperbole. Bigger screens, fancier keyboards, etc... Packaging and clothing, not substance.
 

nightsafari

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I deal with macs from 2000 to 2016 on a professional level and I can tell you Apple is a fucked-up totalitarian company. Apple employees are a fucked-up bunch of elitist assholes, especially those in management level.
Many Apple fanboys on Youtube have switched to Windows because they cannot tolerate the incessant sodomy anymore from the company they have supported for decades.
as a consumer or service provider?

Would be interesting to hear your insights on Apple.
 

nightsafari

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Tesla with Autopilot has nearly 10 times lower accident rate compared to normal cars in the US – Elon Musk



Tesla’s self-driving Autopilot feature has come under heavy scrutiny over the past few years, especially following increasing reports of crashes (some fatal) while the system is engaged. The situation seems to have improved, if the latest data released by the automaker is to be believed.
In the first quarter of 2021, Tesla registered one accident for every 4.19 million miles driven (6.74 million kilometres) in which drivers had Autopilot engaged. This increases to one accident for every 2.05 miles driven (3.3 million km) when Autopilot is not engaged, but with other advanced active safety features in play.
For those driving without Autopilot and without Tesla’s active safety features, there is one accident recorded for every 978,000 miles driven (1.57 million km). By comparison, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s most recent data shows that, in the United States, there is an automobile crash every 484,000 miles (778,922 km) on average.

Taking to Twitter, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said: “Tesla with Autopilot engaged now approaching 10 times lower chance of accident than average vehicle.” While this may be good news, note that statistics such as this can be quite varied.
In Q1 2020, Tesla registered one accident for every 4.68 million miles driven (7.53 million km) with Autopilot activated, which is a far better statistic than all the ensuing quarters since.
Meanwhile, in October last year, Tesla’s Autopilot system in the Model 3 was ranked sixth out of 10 by Euro NCAP. The assessment found that the Model 3 performed poorly in the field of driver engagement, because the Tesla’s steering strategy gave a more “binary impression” that either the car is driving itself or the driver has full control of the vehicle.
if you take Elon's PR-speak sure. But how about this? :


NHTSA Has A Lot Of Catch-Up Ahead

Mercedes Streeter
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Photo: Associated Press (AP)
It’s happening too often. Someone spots a Tesla owner sleeping while motoring down the freeway, their car under the control of Tesla’s Autopilot driver assistance system. Next thing you know, it’s all over social media.

You may wonder how Tesla was able to release this product onto public roads. Are there no regulations covering such features? Isn’t this a safety issue? According to a report from the Los Angeles Times, it really breaks down to oversight from the government.
The Trump administration focused its efforts on rolling back fuel economy requirements. Its arguments for doing so was that cars would become both cheaper and safer. That didn’t happen, and it’s a mystery why Trump thought it would. One explanation is he didn’t know shit about cars.
Unfortunately, fuel economy and emissions control rollbacks were just about the only things Trump’s NHTSA did get around to doing. NHTSA’s important regulatory oversight work stalled for four years with no director at the helm. Now, the Biden administration has a backlog of neglected tasks to dig through. As the Times report shows, NHTSA has been pretty much hands-off when it comes to driver-assistance systems, specifically when it comes to Tesla’s misleadingly named Autopilot:
Officially, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration discourages such behavior, running a public awareness campaign last fall with the hashtag #YourCarNeedsYou. But its messaging competes with marketing of Tesla itself, which recently said it will begin selling a software package for “Full Self Driving” — a term it has used since 2016 despite objections from critics and the caveats in the company’s own fine print — on a subscription basis starting this quarter.
That NHTSA has so far declined to confront Tesla directly on the issue is firmly in character for an agency that took a hands-off approach to a wide range of matters under the Trump administration.
”Inactive,” is how Carla Bailo, chief executive of the Center for Automotive Research, summed up NHTSA’s four previous years. “Dormant,” said Jason Levine, executive director at the Center for Auto Safety. “No direction,” said Bryant Walker Smith, a professor and expert in autonomous vehicle law at the University of South Carolina.
The agency went the full Trump term without a Senate-confirmed administrator, leaving deputies in charge. It launched several safety investigations into Tesla and other companies, but left most unfinished. “A massive pile of backlog” awaits the Biden administration,” said Paul Eisenstein, publisher of The Detroit Bureau industry news site.




While NHTSA has been absent on a number of issues, its lack of oversight on autonomous driving is perhaps the biggest. The Times says Level 2 autonomy is the biggest safety challenge since Ralph Nader’s Unsafe At Any Speed. Silly Nader references aside, the Times does have a point.
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How to deal with emerging autonomous driving technologies is a long term issue. But one thing is for sure, the way Tesla uses its customers as beta testers raises alarm bells with experts.
Whoever takes charge must balance the long-term potential for next-generation cars to reduce pollution, traffic and greenhouse gases against the near-term risks of deploying buggy new technologies at scale before they’re fully vetted. In the “move fast and break things” style of Silicon Valley, Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk has embraced those risks.
While other driverless car developers — from General Motors’ Cruise, to Ford’s Argo AI, to Amazon’s Zoox, to Alphabet’s Waymo, to independent Aurora and more — all take an incremental, slow rollout approach with professional test drivers at the wheel, Tesla is “beta testing” its driverless technology on public roads using its customers as test drivers.
Musk said last month that Tesla cars will be able to fully drive themselves without human intervention on public roads by late this year. He’s been making similar promises since 2016. No driverless car expert or auto industry leader outside Tesla has said they think that’s possible.
While law professor Smith is impressed by Tesla’s “brilliant” ability to use Tesla drivers to collect millions of miles of sensor data to help refine its software, “that doesn’t excuse the marketing, because this is in no way full self-driving. There are so many things wrong with that term. It’s ludicrous. If we can’t trust a company when they tell us a product is full self-driving, how can we trust them when they tell us a product is safe?”
The Detroit Bureau’s Eisenstein is even harsher. “Can I say this off the record?” he said. “No, let me say it on the record. I’m appalled by Tesla. They’re taking the smartphone approach: Put the tech out there, and find out whether or not it works. It’s one thing to put out a new IOS that caused problems with voice dictation. It’s another thing to have a problem moving 60 miles per hour.”
A late 2016 NHTSA directive under the Obama administration considered “predictable abuse” as a potential defect in autonomous driving tech deployment. Unfortunately, under Trump NHTSA did nothing. For context, the directive came about a year after the software that enabled Autopilot driver assistance in the Tesla Model S was released.
The inaction of NHTSA drew ire from another federal safety agency, the National Transportation Safety Board. The NTSB — which is most known for its investigations of plane and train incidents — blamed predictable abuse for a 2018 crash where a Tesla Model X crashed into a concrete divider.
Part of the issue is the lack of transparency from Musk and Tesla regarding how safe the Autopilot driver-assist system is as well as a lack of data in general. From the Times:

Musk regularly issues statistics purporting to show that Autopilot and Full Self Driving are on balance safer than cars driven by humans alone. That could be, but even if Musk’s analysis is sound — several statisticians have said it is not — the data is proprietary to Tesla, and Tesla has declined to make even anonymized data available to university researchers for independent confirmation. Tesla could not be reached — it disbanded its media relations department last year.

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In 2019, after a series of Tesla battery fires, NHTSA launched a probe of the company’s software and battery management systems. Later, the agency said allegedly defective cooling tubes that could cause leaks were being investigated as well. At the time, the agency did not make public information it held about battery cooling tubes prone to leakage that were installed in early versions of the Model S and Model X.
Since late 2016, many Tesla drivers had been complaining about “whompy wheels” on their cars — a tendency for the suspension system to break apart, which sometimes caused a wheel to collapse or fall off the car. Chinese drivers lodged similar complaints, and last October, China authorities ordered a recall of 30,000 Model S and Model X cars. A Tesla lawyer wrote NHTSA a letter arguing no U.S. recall was necessary and blamed driver “abuse” for the problems in China. NHTSA said in October it is “monitoring the situation closely.”
Four days before Biden’s inauguration, NHTSA announced that defects in Tesla touchscreen hardware can make the car’s rear-view camera go blank, among other problems. Rather than order a recall, NHTSA said it asked Tesla to voluntarily recall approximately 158,000 Model S and Model X cars for repair. On Feb. 2, Tesla agreed to recall 135,000 of those cars/
Check out the full Los Angeles Times report, it’s well worth the read!

https://jalopnik.com/nhtsa-has-a-lot-of-catch-up-ahead-1846201331
 

blackmondy

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as a consumer or service provider?

Would be interesting to hear your insights on Apple.
I was working as tech support professional for many years in the M&E sector and have to face Apple users on a regular basis.
One thing I noticed over time is that mac users generally have very poor work habits and love to dump everything onto the desktop as well as leaving many apps opened, wasting precious ram.
 

blackmondy

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have to agree with you. I've been away from Apple for many years. It was seriously amazing stuff decades ago, but the divergence between the two has shrunk to next to indistinguishable except for the "marketing" hyperbole. Bigger screens, fancier keyboards, etc... Packaging and clothing, not substance.
Things went southward quickly after Steve Jobs went up-lorry. Form after function became the norm and many products have design flaws.
 

nightsafari

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I was working as tech support professional for many years in the M&E sector and have to face Apple users on a regular basis.
One thing I noticed over time is that mac users generally have very poor work habits and love to dump everything onto the desktop as well as leaving many apps opened, wasting precious ram.
There was a tendency especially in the earlier days where Macs were commonly more resource hogs than Dos based. I think it's still true today. User habits lagi worse... :roflmao:
 

nightsafari

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Things went southward quickly after Steve Jobs went up-lorry. Form after function became the norm and many products have design flaws.
I feel so as well. The only Apple product I have is the phone and not by choice!!

Steve would never have gone so easy on functionless stuff.
 

blackmondy

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There was a tendency especially in the earlier days where Macs were commonly more resource hogs than Dos based. I think it's still true today. User habits lagi worse... :roflmao:
Mac OS has become more resource hungry than ever, thanks to more useless features that pander to fanboys.
What pisses me off more than ever is now the newer mac hardware are designed to be repair-unfriendly by 3rd-parties. In other words, you will be forced to have your iphones and macs repaired by "authorized" service centers that charge a bomb.
 
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