yes, u will be a co-applicant and your wife will be the main applicant.
are u working in singtel?
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Tips for settling down in OZ
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yes, u will be a co-applicant and your wife will be the main applicant.
are u working in singtel?
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thanks! but i guess, if i had relevant skills, our combined chances would have been higher still? should i try to apply for a random "relevant" job first, so that i can get employer-sponsored and get the additional points?
nope, you probably don't know me...
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It's only worth an additional 10 points for a lot of hassle. Not worth the trouble of getting all your documentation ready unless you really need the points.
very hard to get a "relevant" onshore job if you're:
1) offshore
2) and don't have the skills.
G'day,
I read about this viewpoint from somewhere and it says that:
Perth, being the capital city of WA, will experience overall price increase in median house price because of the commodity boom and the fact that the nearest capital city is far far away. It's nearer to Jakarta than Adelaide.
However, it also means that necessities are also more expensive, due to the isolation. suppose you can't have it both ways.
I read about this viewpoint from somewhere and it says that:
Perth, being the capital city of WA, will experience overall price increase in median house price because of the commodity boom and the fact that the nearest capital city is far far away. It's nearer to Jakarta than Adelaide.
However, it also means that necessities are also more expensive, due to the isolation. suppose you can't have it both ways.
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Fewer S'poreans getting Aussie PR
The list of eligible occupations has been cut from over 400 to 183
By Melissa Kok
SINGAPOREANS who want to move to Australia are finding it tougher to qualify for permanent residency (PR) due to recent changes to the country's immigration policies.
The group hit hardest by the immigration reforms are those who are applying independently as skilled immigrants.
Most Singaporeans seeking to emigrate to Australia - a popular destination for Singaporean immigrants - go through this route.
Immigration agents told The Straits Times that the number of Singaporeans now eligible for PR has dipped by between 20 per cent and 60 per cent since the changes kicked in.
In July this year, the Australian government introduced a new Skilled Occupations List (SOL) to meet skills shortages.
The move comes amid concerns in Australia that the country had been attracting too many hairdressers and cooks, and too few doctors and engineers.
The new list cut down the number of listed occupations - which covered managerial, professional, technical and trade jobs - from more than 400 in the old list to just 183 now.
Occupations that were axed included finance managers and IT-related professions such as project managers and administrators.
The move reduces the number of people who could be eligible for PR, as an applicant must have skills and qualifications for an occupation on the new list. They must also be aged between 18 and 45, and have good English language ability, among other requirements.
'Previously, we have had Singaporeans who can work as HR managers and office managers qualify for PR, but now those occupations have been taken off the list, so it is harder for them,' said Mr Pearce Cheng, a migration and relocation consultant at Aims Immigration Specialist.
Immigration agents say interest among Singaporeans in emigrating overseas has grown over the years.
Their main reasons for wanting to leave include the higher cost of living, lack of work-life balance and overcrowding in Singapore.
Those who want to make the move to Australia are usually working professionals in their 30s or 40s with young children.
However, the number of Singaporeans granted Australian PR has come down in the past few years: Last year, 2,073 Singaporeans were granted PR, down from 2,245 in 2008, 2,267 in 2007 and 3,538 in 2006.
The reasons for the dip in numbers are unclear, but the downward trend looks set to continue with the reforms.
Mr James Alan Hall, a registered migration agent for the Australia Migration Agency, noted that only 15 per cent to 20 per cent of his potential clients qualify for PR now, compared to 80 per cent last year.
For Aims, around 80 per cent of the potential clients were eligible for PR last year. Now, just 50 per cent to 60 per cent qualify.
However, Mr Cheng added that some Australian state and territory governments implemented state immigration plans this month which allow them to nominate skilled immigrants with occupations not on the SOL.
'So, if they (clients) don't have an occupation on the main list, but it is on one of the states' migration list like Victoria's, maybe they can apply for a state-sponsored permanent visa,' he said.
But the rules could get even more stringent next July as Australia is expected to roll out a new points test to assess independent skilled immigrants, which will emphasise the importance of English, work experience and high-level qualifications.
Other popular migration destinations among Singaporeans, such as Canada and Britain, have also begun tightening their migration policies.
On the other hand, the New Zealand government has been on a drive to attract skilled migrants from Singapore since the start of this year.
Among those considering a move to the South Pacific is a 34-year-old human resources manager who wanted to be known only as Ms Tan.
Ms Tan, who wants to emigrate to Australia for better education opportunities for her two young daughters, said she will consider New Zealand if her application is rejected.
She said: 'My children have special needs, so the education system in Singapore is not very ideal for them, it can be too stressful. I think I would still try for New Zealand, even though it will take a longer time.'
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The list of eligible occupations has been cut from over 400 to 183
By Melissa Kok
SINGAPOREANS who want to move to Australia are finding it tougher to qualify for permanent residency (PR) due to recent changes to the country's immigration policies.
The group hit hardest by the immigration reforms are those who are applying independently as skilled immigrants.
Most Singaporeans seeking to emigrate to Australia - a popular destination for Singaporean immigrants - go through this route.
Immigration agents told The Straits Times that the number of Singaporeans now eligible for PR has dipped by between 20 per cent and 60 per cent since the changes kicked in.
In July this year, the Australian government introduced a new Skilled Occupations List (SOL) to meet skills shortages.
The move comes amid concerns in Australia that the country had been attracting too many hairdressers and cooks, and too few doctors and engineers.
The new list cut down the number of listed occupations - which covered managerial, professional, technical and trade jobs - from more than 400 in the old list to just 183 now.
Occupations that were axed included finance managers and IT-related professions such as project managers and administrators.
The move reduces the number of people who could be eligible for PR, as an applicant must have skills and qualifications for an occupation on the new list. They must also be aged between 18 and 45, and have good English language ability, among other requirements.
'Previously, we have had Singaporeans who can work as HR managers and office managers qualify for PR, but now those occupations have been taken off the list, so it is harder for them,' said Mr Pearce Cheng, a migration and relocation consultant at Aims Immigration Specialist.
Immigration agents say interest among Singaporeans in emigrating overseas has grown over the years.
Their main reasons for wanting to leave include the higher cost of living, lack of work-life balance and overcrowding in Singapore.
Those who want to make the move to Australia are usually working professionals in their 30s or 40s with young children.
However, the number of Singaporeans granted Australian PR has come down in the past few years: Last year, 2,073 Singaporeans were granted PR, down from 2,245 in 2008, 2,267 in 2007 and 3,538 in 2006.
The reasons for the dip in numbers are unclear, but the downward trend looks set to continue with the reforms.
Mr James Alan Hall, a registered migration agent for the Australia Migration Agency, noted that only 15 per cent to 20 per cent of his potential clients qualify for PR now, compared to 80 per cent last year.
For Aims, around 80 per cent of the potential clients were eligible for PR last year. Now, just 50 per cent to 60 per cent qualify.
However, Mr Cheng added that some Australian state and territory governments implemented state immigration plans this month which allow them to nominate skilled immigrants with occupations not on the SOL.
'So, if they (clients) don't have an occupation on the main list, but it is on one of the states' migration list like Victoria's, maybe they can apply for a state-sponsored permanent visa,' he said.
But the rules could get even more stringent next July as Australia is expected to roll out a new points test to assess independent skilled immigrants, which will emphasise the importance of English, work experience and high-level qualifications.
Other popular migration destinations among Singaporeans, such as Canada and Britain, have also begun tightening their migration policies.
On the other hand, the New Zealand government has been on a drive to attract skilled migrants from Singapore since the start of this year.
Among those considering a move to the South Pacific is a 34-year-old human resources manager who wanted to be known only as Ms Tan.
Ms Tan, who wants to emigrate to Australia for better education opportunities for her two young daughters, said she will consider New Zealand if her application is rejected.
She said: 'My children have special needs, so the education system in Singapore is not very ideal for them, it can be too stressful. I think I would still try for New Zealand, even though it will take a longer time.'
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hi, i have a question.. im currently a PR in aussie, my whole family is there.. im still stuck here in sg due to my work.. i have a gf whom im gonna marry soon.. is there any possibility if i could bring her over there? as in to get a PR for her to? im planning to get married in 2 years time.. planning to settle in OZ in 5 years time.. isit possible?
Yes, try spouse sponsorship visa for her.
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I have gone thru the NZ immigration requirement. There were either asking for someone with tonnes of cash 10 millions, 1.5 millions, 0.5millions or someone with a degree at least to be qualify for their scheme.
Wonder how simple ppl like me without so much cash and a degree will ever qualify?
Any advise welcome.
Wonder how simple ppl like me without so much cash and a degree will ever qualify?
Any advise welcome.
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Should be "Any ADVICE is welcome.".
"Advise" is a verb.
My advice is to apply for a work visa. Once you've gained a foothold, you'll be able to convert your work visa into PR. It usually takes a couple of years but it will be well worth it.
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Just want to point out something I read in last weekend's Australian Financial Review.
Oz immigration is putting more emphasis on getting in university graduates over trades schools graduates.
Sound like the door to Oz immigration is now half shut. This may be a good thing because I am getting complaints of new migrants undercutting our salaries.
If new migrants from Korea/India/China/Malaysia want to work for less, they should return to their countries, otherwise, accept the award rates (collective bargaining agreements) as the minimum market rates.
All of us want First world wages to live in a First World country.
If you want to work for Third World wages and live in a First World country, go somewhere else!
Employers take a big risk underpaying because these same people can turn their back and sue us for breaking the law.
Oz immigration is putting more emphasis on getting in university graduates over trades schools graduates.
Sound like the door to Oz immigration is now half shut. This may be a good thing because I am getting complaints of new migrants undercutting our salaries.
If new migrants from Korea/India/China/Malaysia want to work for less, they should return to their countries, otherwise, accept the award rates (collective bargaining agreements) as the minimum market rates.
All of us want First world wages to live in a First World country.
If you want to work for Third World wages and live in a First World country, go somewhere else!
Employers take a big risk underpaying because these same people can turn their back and sue us for breaking the law.
Its actually back to the same level when I migrated. I remember they waived the work experience requirements for Aussie grads and that is when I applied. TAFE, cooks, hairdressers, trade schools, came a few years later and cause the massive increase in migration via that route. What I heard is that they are gonna to tighten it even further, emphasizing more on work experience to get PR now. You get points for work experiences you have. Graduates are told to apply for Temporary visa and get a job here, apply for PR once you have sufficient work experiences in Aust. All indication seems to point they are making it harder.
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Thanks Sam,
Actually I want to retire rather than work there. Can you actually get a work visa without any job offer and not work at all?
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If you just want to retire, you need to front up with lots of money. Details are at the nz immigration website.
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Australia has the highest minimum wage at $15 an hour compared to New Zealand at $12.75 an hour. This is still high if you look at USA at $5.15 to $8.25 an hour.
For those who cannot make it to Australia, there is always New Zealand.
New Zealand is one of top three places to live in the world after Norway and Australia, which takes first and second place respectively.
New Zealand one of top three places to live: report
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/4311445/New-Zealand-one-of-top-three-places-to-live-report
To apply for New Zealand, look at the following links from the New Zealand Embassy in Singapore:
New Zealand High Commission Singapore
http://www.nzembassy.com/singapore/going-new-zealand/visas
New Zealand High Commission Singapore
Visas
Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is the government agency responsible for establishing New Zealand immigration policies.
In general, you will need a visa if you wish to:
* visit as a tourist
* work temporarily
* have a working holiday
* reside permanently
* study
The Immigration New Zealand website provides comprehensive information in English about visa requirements when coming to New Zealand including information on:
* Commonly asked questions
* Forms and guides
* Fees
* Doctors for immigration medicals
* Where to lodge your application
* Visa-free countries
Where to go for information:
Immigration New Zealand
391A Orchard Road, #15-05
Ngee Ann City, Tower A
SINGAPORE 238873
Tel: (65) 67386700
Fax: (65) 62356651
For those who cannot make it to Australia, there is always New Zealand.
New Zealand is one of top three places to live in the world after Norway and Australia, which takes first and second place respectively.
New Zealand one of top three places to live: report
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/4311445/New-Zealand-one-of-top-three-places-to-live-report
To apply for New Zealand, look at the following links from the New Zealand Embassy in Singapore:
New Zealand High Commission Singapore
http://www.nzembassy.com/singapore/going-new-zealand/visas
New Zealand High Commission Singapore
Visas
Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is the government agency responsible for establishing New Zealand immigration policies.
In general, you will need a visa if you wish to:
* visit as a tourist
* work temporarily
* have a working holiday
* reside permanently
* study
The Immigration New Zealand website provides comprehensive information in English about visa requirements when coming to New Zealand including information on:
* Commonly asked questions
* Forms and guides
* Fees
* Doctors for immigration medicals
* Where to lodge your application
* Visa-free countries
Where to go for information:
Immigration New Zealand
391A Orchard Road, #15-05
Ngee Ann City, Tower A
SINGAPORE 238873
Tel: (65) 67386700
Fax: (65) 62356651
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Yes, Australia is currently changing its immigration policies. Moreover, the current Labor govt is quite weak so I expect immigration quotas to be lowered due to politics. New Zealand should provide some stability for potential migrants.
Moreover, I expect the cost of living in Australia to go up due to imported inflation from the USA, via China. Over the past 2 years, my salary has gone up 9% just to meet the inflation. (I am quoting for Western Australia economy only)
Eg I read a report for TOLL Group, a TOLL truck driver earns $75k in the east coast states of Australia but can earn more than $100k in Western Australia state.
USA is not as attractive these days because of the aftermath of the financial/property/employment issues.
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A blog on European Aussie (software engineer) marrying a Shenzhen Chinese
http://community.sbs.com.au/dawei
Migrating to Australia
http://www.austimelines.com/
On SBS TV.........
Ep 1 Why Women become mistresses
http://player.sbs.com.au/programs#/.../Mistresses-Ep-1-Why-Women-Become-Mistresses/
This Friday's Ep 2: Why men have affairs.
Do Singaporeans need migrant coaches to help them move?
Do Singaporeans need career or business coaches to help them succeed in their new countries?
Happy New Year to all readers!
http://community.sbs.com.au/dawei
Migrating to Australia
http://www.austimelines.com/
On SBS TV.........
Ep 1 Why Women become mistresses
http://player.sbs.com.au/programs#/.../Mistresses-Ep-1-Why-Women-Become-Mistresses/
This Friday's Ep 2: Why men have affairs.
Do Singaporeans need migrant coaches to help them move?
Do Singaporeans need career or business coaches to help them succeed in their new countries?
Happy New Year to all readers!
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Why you think Singaporean need so many coaches? We migrated without all this leh. You see Singaporean no up is it? :P
I had heard about point system for applying for PR in some developing countries like Canada, Nz, Australia, singapore, but dont have any knowledge about singapore point system, can anyone please reply me about the same for singapore
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