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This ah mah so poor thing. Like that die is jin bo hua lo
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Yes may be weather hot she fainted just so happen the pmd pass by.
Or the haze causes her to faint and get a stroke. LolYes may be weather hot she fainted just so happen the pmd pass by.
The solution is to restrict PMDs from the footpaths. They should be confined to the road as they are in other countries where PMDs have skyrocketed in popularity.
Germany bans e-scooters from pavements, restricts them to road use
A man rides an e-scooter of rental company Tier in Berlin, Germany, on Apr 17, 2019. (File photo: AFP/Tobias Schwarz)
18 May 2019 09:24AM(Updated: 18 May 2019 09:30AM)
BERLIN: Germany on Friday (May 17) authorised battery-powered scooters on its streets and cycle paths but banned them from pavements to protect pedestrians as the two-wheeled craze continues to spread across Europe.
Following fierce debate over road safety and the impact on traffic, the upper house adopted a proposal by Transport Minister Andreas Scheuer to approve the "electric propulsion vehicles" for road use.
They are either loved or loathed in Europe's biggest economy.
"In Germany, souls are divided over e-scooters. Rarely has a new technology aroused such strong popularity - and such strong rejection," said Achim Berg, president of Germany's IT federation Bitkom.
Scheuer was forced to amend his initial suggestion to allow electric scooters on pavements, after it sparked an outcry from politicians, police unions and insurance groups.
Electrical scooters will only be allowed on pavements in exceptional cases, to be expressly indicated by signs.
E-scooter users must respect a speed limit of 20kmph and be aged 14 years or older.
"WOULD BE A FERRARI"
The decision opens up the market for mobility companies vying to provide rented e-scooters in Germany's cities with Berlin-based startup Tier and Sweden's Voi up against US firms Lime and Bird, leaders in the fast-growing sector.
Europe's leading economy, with its mostly flat, highly urbanised geography and spiderweb network of cycle paths is a potential goldmine for e-scoot rental providers waiting in the wings.
"You have to expect a greyhound race. Whoever can convince people first will win the market," said Hans Preissl, a spokesman for Frankfurt's traffic authority.
The economic model of the booming e-scooter market still needs refining however, warns a study by the Boston Consulting Group on Friday.
"If market growth were vehicle acceleration, the humble electric scooter - the latest answer to urban mobility - would be a Ferrari," said BCG, which predicts "consolidation is inevitable" in such a crowded market.
Undeterred, German car behemoth Volkswagen is eyeing the e-scooter market with plans to incorporate them into its own car-sharing scheme by the end of the year.
However, an influx of scooters could intensify the battle for space on Germany's streets, where cycling associations have long demanded more and wider bicycle paths.
The co-existence of cyclists and e-scooter users on Germany's cycle paths could quickly become untenable, warns Der Spiegel, "while imposing half-empty cars will continue to occupy lanes", referring to Germans' love of large cars.
"INEVITABLE" CONFLICTS
"Conflicts are inevitable," Social Democrat politician Anke Rehlinger said Thursday, adding that "continuous" effort should be made to define new rules for the e-scooters.
Scheuer labelled them a "genuine additional alternative for cars" in Germany's traffic-choked cities yet there are also medical warnings against their use on Germany's roads.
"E-scooters are highly dangerous in city traffic - not least because other road users find it extremely difficult to adjust to them," Christopher Spering, from the German Society for Orthopaedics and Trauma Surgery, told the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung newspaper.
There are also fears cyclists could be pushed off cycle paths specifically built for them.
"The already very limited area, currently granted to cycle traffic, should not have its use further extended," said Jens Hilgenberg, traffic expert of the environmentalist group BUND told magazine Der Spiegel.
Daily newspaper Maerkische Oderzeitung says German cities have a choice - either they "risk chaos and even war between the modes of transport" or they prioritise cyclists, e-scooters users and pedestrians resulting in "painful losses for motorists" in inner-city areas.
France to ban e-scooters from pavements in September
Issued on: 04/05/2019 - 12:43
Wildly popular, but also a headache for the authorities AFP
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Paris (AFP)
France will ban electric scooters from pavements in September, the transport minister said, in a backlash against a surge of the commuter gizmos invading pedestrian areas.
An estimated 15,000 scooters operated by several companies have flooded the French capital since their introduction last year, a number projected to surge to 40,000 by the end of this year.
Elisabeth Borne told the Le Parisien daily in remarks published Saturday that anyone riding an e-scooter, monowheel, personal transporter or hoverboard on the pavement would be fined 135 euros ($151) from September.
Instead, they will have to use the street or dedicated cycling paths, "so pedestrians are no longer squeezed against walls", the minister said.
The development of the hugely popular personal transport vehicles "happened very fast and in a bit of an anarchic way", Borne said.
Riders will still be allowed to push them on the pavement, so long as the engine is turned off.
Scooter rental services, from companies like US-based Lime and Bird -- and most recently ride-hailing giant Uber -- have proved wildly popular in many cities.
The French move follows a decision by Peru to ban motorised scooters from pavements and pedestrian areas from this week.
Paris mayor Anne Hidalgo had last month already announced measures to protect pedestrians from e-scooters, "especially older people and children".
She said parking in such a way as to obstruct traffic or pedestrians will mean a 35-euro fine -- but the Paris city council has pledged to build parking spots for 2,500 scooters.
Berlin's city hall has also drawn up tough new rules for e-scooters, while Spanish tourist hotspot Barcelona has banned scooter rental services completely.
More than 1,500 people have been treated for injuries from using battery-powered electric scooters in the United States since the craze began in late 2017, a Consumer Reports survey showed in February.
Issued on: 04/05/2019 - 12:43
Wildly popular, but also a headache for the authorities AFP
ADVERTISING
Paris (AFP)
France will ban electric scooters from pavements in September, the transport minister said, in a backlash against a surge of the commuter gizmos invading pedestrian areas.
An estimated 15,000 scooters operated by several companies have flooded the French capital since their introduction last year, a number projected to surge to 40,000 by the end of this year.
Elisabeth Borne told the Le Parisien daily in remarks published Saturday that anyone riding an e-scooter, monowheel, personal transporter or hoverboard on the pavement would be fined 135 euros ($151) from September.
Instead, they will have to use the street or dedicated cycling paths, "so pedestrians are no longer squeezed against walls", the minister said.
The development of the hugely popular personal transport vehicles "happened very fast and in a bit of an anarchic way", Borne said.
Riders will still be allowed to push them on the pavement, so long as the engine is turned off.
Scooter rental services, from companies like US-based Lime and Bird -- and most recently ride-hailing giant Uber -- have proved wildly popular in many cities.
The French move follows a decision by Peru to ban motorised scooters from pavements and pedestrian areas from this week.
Paris mayor Anne Hidalgo had last month already announced measures to protect pedestrians from e-scooters, "especially older people and children".
She said parking in such a way as to obstruct traffic or pedestrians will mean a 35-euro fine -- but the Paris city council has pledged to build parking spots for 2,500 scooters.
Berlin's city hall has also drawn up tough new rules for e-scooters, while Spanish tourist hotspot Barcelona has banned scooter rental services completely.
More than 1,500 people have been treated for injuries from using battery-powered electric scooters in the United States since the craze began in late 2017, a Consumer Reports survey showed in February.
That's an excellent idea. I rather see them get mowed down by lorries and cars than these pcb pmds mowing pedestrians on the pavements.
That's an excellent idea. I rather see them get mowed down by lorries and cars than these pcb pmds mowing pedestrians on the pavements.
On the roads the reckless PMD riders will be killed and those that remain will be law abiding. That's Darwinism at work.
On the footpaths the reckless ones kill innocent pedestrians.
No prizes for guessing which is a better option. France and Germany obviously do.
The LTA are staffed by a bunch of morons.
That's an excellent idea. I rather see them get mowed down by lorries and cars than these pcb pmds mowing pedestrians on the pavements.
Motorized wheelchairs should also be on the roads. They are wider and thus more annoying to me on a pavement than PMDs.
When I am free, I shall write a formal thread seeking for an Impeachment Inquiry for his misconduct.
A poll would be conducted for members of this forum. If a simple majority votes for the Impeachmemt to proceed, the Motion shall be forwarded to the Senate of Moderators ( @zhihau @Froggy @jw5 ). They shall decide his fate, either to ban or suspend him for a period of time, or bar him from commenting in PMD threads.
simi? I support boss! PMDs should only be allowed on roads. Let them be killed and maimed by vehicular traffic.
Waah! So serious ah? Boss jialat liao!When I am free, I shall write a formal thread seeking for an Impeachment Inquiry for his misconduct.
A poll would be conducted for members of this forum. If a simple majority votes for the Impeachmemt to proceed, the Motion shall be forwarded to the Senate of Moderators ( @zhihau @Froggy @jw5 ). They shall decide his fate, either to ban or suspend him for a period of time, or bar him from commenting in PMD threads.
He has been spamming PMD threads. It's time for Impeachment!Waah! So serious ah? Boss jialat liao!
Yes sir!He has been spamming PMD threads. It's time for Impeachment!
Lucky for her n her family she mati. If she don't mati she will be a burden to herself , her family n society as a whole
Must wait for some ministers relative get knocked down then will ban PMD from pedestrian walkways.
Pmds in six avenue?
So many have car, my wife have one, I have one, we're professionals u see.
Pmds in six avenue?
So many have car, my wife have one, I have one, we're professionals u see.
There's a nice little park at the intersection of Jalan Babi Alias and Coronation Broad Breast, it's great for PMD riding... any kind of riding.
