The latest and greatest HAZE updates and commentry

[Narong Wongwan]

Re: Breaking: SIA plane crashes on landing due to HAZE....

Old Fart lives inside an impenetrable bubble....
Peasant woes like dengue and haze are remote issues that do not affect him.

 

[Poomer]

Re: NEA says Today I can see Batam and Bukit Timah Hill.... @@##@#$32

Brother, can explain? Thank you

The NEA psi figures give a rolling aberage of last 3 hrs.

so for eg. 6pm was 150 and 7pm was 160, u noe the actual psi at 7pm surely higher, becoz it takes psi levels fer 5,6,7 pm to get that figure.

NEA should give both rolling average and current figure. after all who gives afuck how much smog we inhale 2 hrs ago.

 

[Poomer]

Re: Breaking: SIA plane crashes on landing due to HAZE....

Old Fart lives inside an impenetrable bubble....
Peasant woes like dengue and haze are remote issues that do not affect him.

Old fart is probably attached to an oxygen tank in SGH as we speak. They wouldnt want him to die prematurely, with dengue and haze already, the govt has wnuf problems in their hands alr. Then again if anything happen to him becoz of haze, they might take real action for once.

 

[Unrepented]

Re: NEA says Today I can see Batam and Bukit Timah Hill.... @@##@#$32

No so much about the methodology about averaging. What is more pertinent is the yard stick that they are applying to get the reading.

The small print in at NEA website is saying the PSI reading is based on PM10.

If they use PM2.5, filters I guess. The reading would be much higher? Averaging over 3 or 6 hours will still give a higher reading.

So is the each current data collected, appropriate, beneficial for decision making and action, as well as reflective of the actual hazard level?

The NEA psi figures give a rolling aberage of last 3 hrs.

so for eg. 6pm was 150 and 7pm was 160, u noe the actual psi at 7pm surely higher, becoz it takes psi levels fer 5,6,7 pm to get that figure.

NEA should give both rolling average and current figure. after all who gives afuck how much smog we inhale 2 hrs ago.

 

[Extremist]

Tan kin lian will offer you 1 million to find out the company responsible 4 the haze

Tan Kin Lian:

I will offer a reward of 1 million rupiah:o to any person who is able to take photos of companies that are responsible for allowing the fires to burn in their area of operation. No need to prove that the company started the fire.

They can take the photo of the fire and of the signboard of the plantation company that operate in the site. The photos should include the GPS location where they were taken.

The photos must be more than 5 km away from the photos that were claimed previously. The prize will only be awarded for satisfactory photos that have been posted in this Facebook page. Send photos to [email protected]. I will offer a total of 10 prizes.

How about this solution? Anyone wants to fly to Sumatra or tell your Indonesian friend to claim the prize?

 

[Confuseous]

EXPOSED! NEA still using outdated methodology, no response from Vivian FB on this

The PSI is based on concentrations of larger particulate matter called PM10.

PM2.5 particles, about one-thirtieth the width of a human hair, are more dangerous as they can enter the lungs or bloodstream more easily than larger dust particles.

Mr Askey posted a suggestion on the Facebook page of Environment Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, saying that the National Environment Agency (NEA) should use another index instead of the PSI.

He said the Air Quality Index (AQI), for instance, takes into account PM2.5 concentrations.

- http://news.omy.sg/News/Local-News/Usefulness-of-PSI-called-into-question-176664

 

[laksaboy]

Re: Tan kin lian will offer you 1 million to find out the company responsible 4 the h

Wilmar pretty much owns most of the palm plantations in Sumatra... so it is definitely...

 

[Confuseous]

When smoke gets into the eyes of ministers, YOU cry

Balakrishnan insists cloud seeding will not work for Singapore as his meteorological boys are saying there's not enough cloud cover at the moment. Instead of sending helicopters over to help the Indonesians with the preparation work, he is sending the spanking new ex-army NEA CEO Andrew Tan over to attend a haze meeting. What the Indonesians need is more hardware, not more hot air.

Meanwhile Foreign Minister K Shanmugam got hot under the collar, when one sinful comment on his Facebook pages railed against the "million dollar minister" and called, quite accurately, the Government inefficient. As expected, the minister shafted the Indonesians for not ratifying a treaty on Transboundary Haze Pollution signed in 2002. It proves the point, doesn't it? The Singapore Foreign Minister had been sleeping since 2002, just going with the flow like the brigadier-general, until the wind changes direction. With FMs like that, who needs enemies?

Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew had to contend with another hallmark inefficiency of his own. About 250 commuters were stuck in an immobile train for 1 whole hour. It would be interesting to hear the explanation from the SMRT CEO - another expensive bum parachuted in from the armed forces - why his staff could not move a stalled train with another working one. At evening rush hour when the 2 hour disruption occurred, the haze was edging towards 190, so be prepared to be smoked by (lack of) visibility excuses. More likely, someone forgot to release the brakes.

- http://singaporedesk.blogspot.sg/2013/06/when-smoke-gets-in-your-eyes.html

 

[Unrepented]

Re: EXPOSED! NEA still using outdated methodology, no response from Vivian FB on this

Thanks for highlighting this.

Sinkies shouldn't be blur blur, and get lead into a false sense of comfort and assurance.

Find out the truth and know what is actually happening around you..............eat more soursop and vegetables, and wake the hell up!!!!!!!!!!:oIo:

The PSI is based on concentrations of larger particulate matter called PM10.

PM2.5 particles, about one-thirtieth the width of a human hair, are more dangerous as they can enter the lungs or bloodstream more easily than larger dust particles.

Mr Askey posted a suggestion on the Facebook page of Environment Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, saying that the National Environment Agency (NEA) should use another index instead of the PSI.

He said the Air Quality Index (AQI), for instance, takes into account PM2.5 concentrations.

- http://news.omy.sg/News/Local-News/Usefulness-of-PSI-called-into-question-176664

 

[laksaboy]

Re: EXPOSED! NEA still using outdated methodology, no response from Vivian FB on this

In a report by The Straits Times in 2010, the NEA said it was studying other indexes that measure air quality.

NEA had said that the PSI has served Singapore well when it comes to issuing health advisories to the public.

Three years on... they're still 'studying other indexes'.

Imagine the NEA actually doing its job instead of fixing the opposition.

 

[laksaboy]

Oh, and here's a quick FUCK YOU :oIo: to that motherfucker who wantonly merged threads.

I know who you are, you know who you are.

 

[tonychat]

Re: Tan kin lian will offer you 1 million to find out the company responsible 4 the h

Tan Kin Lian:

I will offer a reward of 1 million rupiah:o to any person who is able to take photos of companies that are responsible for allowing the fires to burn in their area of operation. No need to prove that the company started the fire.

They can take the photo of the fire and of the signboard of the plantation company that operate in the site. The photos should include the GPS location where they were taken.

The photos must be more than 5 km away from the photos that were claimed previously. The prize will only be awarded for satisfactory photos that have been posted in this Facebook page. Send photos to [email protected]. I will offer a total of 10 prizes.

How about this solution? Anyone wants to fly to Sumatra or tell your Indonesian friend to claim the prize?

that is only SGD 127.

tell him to take it himself..

you want to give, then give with sincerity at least SGD$1000

 

[Unrepented]

Yah, I am just as frustrated. Important points and issues to hightlight as a thread title, gets merged.

Better post in some other forums, then:oIo:

Oh, and here's a quick FUCK YOU :oIo: to that motherfucker who wantonly merged threads.

I know who you are, you know who you are.

 

[Cerebral]

Re: Tan kin lian will offer you 1 million to find out the company responsible 4 the h

I still don't understand what can a CEO of NEA do? Why they need to fly him over to Indonesia? Shouldn't the minister or the Indo Ambassador be doing this?

 

[Confuseous]

Re: Tan kin lian will offer you 1 million to find out the company responsible 4 the h

http://singaporedaily.net/2013/06/19/daily-sg-19-jun-2013/

 

[Dark Knight]

Indonesia - They Have A Zhuge Liang?

Do you think Indonesia has a wise man (so called "Zhuge Liang") who tries to calculate and make prediction of weather and wind direction?
For the burning smoke to travel mostly all the way to Sillypore, the wind direction has to be be quite accurate.
This wise man's calculation and prediction may not be 100% accurate but it seems close enough so that the haze will gather mostly in Sillypore island and not affecting other nearby countries in the region.

This guy seems to know roughly which particular month and day that wind direction will bring all the smoke to Sillypore.
He then execute the palm field to be torched so that Indonesia can demand Sillypore to offer their help in terms of $$$.
Did you realized that Sillypore always got issues with Haze but not so much in Malaysia or even Indonesia themselves?

 

[Equalisation]

Re: Indonesia - They Have A Zhuge Liang?

No. Instead they have his royal highness, Sutanto from Medan !:o

 

[Dark Knight]

Re: Indonesia - They Have A Zhuge Liang?

No. Instead they have his royal highness, Sutanto from Medan !:o

I see .... Indonesia's version of "Zhuge Liang".
He must be really a wise guy.

 

[TheWhiteHorse]

Something comes back to bite Pinky in the arse

“Beijing residents joke that to get a free smoke all they have to do is open their windows!”

 

[laksaboy]

Re: Something comes back to bite Pinky in the arse

“Beijing residents joke that to get a free smoke all they have to do is open their windows!”

LKY plants a tree and almost immediately patches of forests are set ablaze in Indonesia.

Instant karma. No time lag.