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The Irrational Fear and the cost of the Wuhan Virus, Is it worth it?

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I am normally reserved about creating New Threads but due to the over reactions caused by the Wuhan Virus and the fact that its fatality rate is lower than the flu. I will post and comment on the disruptions the Wuhan Virus has caused and the illogical reactions by the people which results in the blind following the blind. Also the cost due to fear of the virus on the world economy which boils down to people's livelihood...Is it worth it?
 
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More likely to get the flu than the Wuhan virus...all this panic and disruptions,,for what?
Wuhan coronavirus (2019-nCoV): What we know so far about the new virus emerging in Asia
February 6, 2020
Written ByEmily Landon, MD
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A new coronavirus virus, likely first transmitted to people from animals at a market in the Chinese city of Wuhan, is making international headlines as disease detectives work to uncover what it is, how it’s transmitted, and how deadly the virus actually is.
As an infectious disease specialist and the hospital epidemiologist at the University of Chicago Medicine, my job is to prepare for outbreaks of all sorts of illnesses — from staph infections to Ebola — while caring for patients at our academic medical center on Chicago’s South Side.
Public health officials are continuing to learn more about the Wuhan novel coronavirus, which so far has sickened five people in the U.S. While more cases are likely in this country, people shouldn’t panic.
Here’s what we know so far about the virus, also known as Wuhan 2019-nCoV.
What is a coronavirus? What is a novel coronavirus?
A coronavirus is actually the name for a set of illnesses, including the common cold and other respiratory infections. A novel coronavirus means it’s a new virus that originated in animals, but has jumped to humans. This particular virus from Wuhan is being called the 2019 novel coronavirus or 2019-nCoV.

Hospital epidemiologist Dr. Emily Landon explains how to stay safe from the new coronavirus.
Video Transcript
Where and how did the Wuhan novel coronavirus begin?
We’ve known about this particular virus shortly after a cluster of severe pneumonia cases were reported on New Year’s Eve in Wuhan, which is in the Hubei Province of China. On January 9, virologists and other public health researchers identified the strain as a novel coronavirus, which was tied to a specific “wet market” in the city of Wuhan where they sell fish and other live animals.
These markets have been known to transmit viruses before. For cultural reasons in the region, people want to see the specific animals they’re buying be slaughtered in front of them, so they know they’re receiving the products they paid for. That means there’s a lot of skinning of dead animals in front of shoppers and, as a result, aerosolizing of all sorts of things, which is why these crowded markets are common places for viruses to jump from animals to people. It’s actually how SARS, another coronavirus, started in 2003.
How does the Wuhan coronavirus spread?
So far, there’s limited information about the Wuhan novel coronavirus, including how easy it is to spread and how dangerous it is. But we know the virus can be transmitted from person to person and it is passed by coughing and other close contact.
Close contact is a vague term that means a lot of things to different people. But in this case, it specifically means being within about six feet of someone for a prolonged period of time without wearing recommended personal protective equipment such as a disposable face mask. It could also be having direct contact with infectious secretions of someone who has a case of the virus (for example: being coughed on) while not wearing personal protective equipment.
That can sound scary, but it’s important to know that influenza is also transmitted the same way. It’s a good reminder to make sure we’re washing our hands frequently and covering our nose and mouth when we sneeze.
Is this coronavirus deadly?
The numbers of how many people have been diagnosed or how many have died are changing rapidly. Without accurate numerators and denominators, the jury’s still out. That said, we do know that hundreds of people in China have died from this virus. Based on the information I’m seeing, it looks very similar to SARS in a number of ways — except for the fact that it’s likely less deadly, but more transmittable.
Have there been cases of the Wuhan novel coronavirus cases in places other than China?
Yes. So far, cases have been reported in more than a dozen countries, including at least 11 confirmed cases in the U.S. It’s a reasonable expectation that the number will grow across the globe, due in no small part to the fact that China is a densely populated country and there was massive travel taking place for Lunar New Year celebrations that may have helped spread the virus.
What are the symptoms of the virus?
We’re still learning more about Wuhan novel coronavirus, but we know it typically causes flu-like symptoms including a fever, cough and congestion. Some patients — particularly the elderly and others with other chronic health conditions — develop a severe form of pneumonia.
Are we all at risk for catching this new coronavirus (2019-nCoV)?
Yes. It doesn’t appear anyone is naturally immune to this particular virus and there’s no reason to believe anybody has antibodies that would normally protect them.

The lack of previous experience with this pathogen is part of the reason why public health officials around the globe are working so hard to contain the spread of this particular coronavirus from Wuhan. When viruses come out like this that are both new (which means the population is highly susceptible) and can easily pass from person to person (a high transmission rate), they can be really dangerous — even if here’s a low percentage of people who die from them.
Why do some people with the Wuhan coronavirus get sicker than others?
It looks like only about 20% of people who contract this novel coronavirus actually wind up needing to be hospitalized. The other 80% get what feels like a really bad cold and they recover at home. A lot of it has to do with underlying medical conditions. People who are more vulnerable to any kind of infection — because of their age or chronic health conditions — are more at risk for getting really sick from this novel coronavirus too.

That said, some otherwise healthy people do seem to be getting more sick from this infection than we would expect. We don’t understand why that is or what might be different about those people. Thanks to the work of scientists and doctors on the ground in China, which is really nothing short of heroic, we’re learning a little more every single day.
How do you treat patients with this virus? Can you vaccinate against it?
Things like antibiotics are designed to kill bacteria, not a virus. So typically doctors can treat the symptoms, but not the virus itself. There’s no vaccine yet.
What kind of medical care do patients with the Wuhan coronavirus need?
About 80% of people who contract this new coronavirus will feel sick, but ultimately be just fine. It’s the other 20% who get really, really sick that worry so many of us in the infectious diseases field. A lot of these critically ill patients wind up needing to be hospitalized for their pneumonia-like illnesses. They typically require critical care and ventilation — special machines that help them breathe. And some need to stay on ventilators for weeks at a time. It’s that portion of patients that’s most concerning. Depending how many cases develop here in the U.S., providing that level of care for that many people over a number of weeks runs the risk of overwhelming the nation’s health care system pretty quickly. How do you screen patients to see if they’re infected with the coronavirus?
At UChicago Medicine, our teams are following guidelines from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That means we’re asking any patient who has respiratory symptoms and a fever if they’ve traveled to the affected area in the past two weeks or been in close contact with someone with a known or suspected case.
Patients who answer yes will immediately be given a face mask and put in an isolation room, which has negative pressure to keep airborne germs inside. Then, they’ll be tested for the specific virus. Turnaround time on those lab tests is about four days. People will need to remain in isolation until they’re cleared.
We’re also instructing our clinical teams to follow standard infection control protocols. So our doctors, nurses and other clinical staff will wear gear like gowns, gloves, masks and eye shields. That’s what they’d do with anyone who has something like the flu and it’s the same steps we followed during the SARS and MERS outbreaks. We’re also reminding everyone to make sure to wash their hands regularly and avoid touching their faces — that’s good practice any time of the year, but especially during flu season.
Should people be more concerned about the seasonal flu or the new coronavirus?
You're more likely to catch the flu than this coronavirus — in terms of what you’d be more likely to pick up if you were out running errands today. There’s widespread seasonal flu activity going on right now all around the U.S. But there’s also a lot of steps you can take to protect yourself from influenza. You can get an annual flu shot. You can take medication like Tamiflu that protects you from getting influenza after you’ve been exposed. You can cover your mouth and wash your hands to mitigate the spread. And, like clockwork, this year’s influenza strain is going to die out in the spring because it will have run its course.
The challenge with the new coronavirus from China is that we just don’t have any information to know if it can be contained, if it will run its course before the summer and disappear, or if it will have to infect a substantial part of the population before burning out.

As a country, we’re also prepared for influenza. It comes every year! But we don’t know if we’re really prepared as a country for a massive coronavirus pandemic.
Will the flu shot protect people from this new coronavirus?
Unfortunately it won’t. But it will help protect you from the flu, and the flu is what you’re more likely to catch right now.
Can drugs like Tamiflu protect patients from getting sick from 2019-nCoV?
No. Tamiflu is designed to fit into a molecule in the influenza virus, which doesn’t appear to be part of the Wuhan virus. However, there are other antiviral medications that may be helpful. We’re still learning more about whether these drugs, like Kaletra (an antiretroviral for HIV patients), will prevent people from getting sick entirely or just help people recover faster. Still, there’s a lot of hope in some of the early data we’re seeing. There are also other antivirals being evaluated at the center of the outbreak in Wuhan.
What should you do if you think you’re infected?
If you haven’t been to the affected region or been near someone who’s been the affected region, you’re likely OK. January and February are rough months for all sorts of respiratory ailments because colds and influenza are common. That said, if you meet the CDC’s criteria, reach out to your doctor right away. If you’re going to your doctor’s office or an emergency room, call ahead so someone can meet you outside to give you a facemask to help limit the spread of any germs.
Can you get tested for this coronavirus if you're worried you've been exposed?
Not right now. The test to diagnose this is new and it’s not widely available. Because there aren’t enough tests, only people who are showing symptoms of the disease AND who are high risk for exposure can get tested. But make sure you tell your doctor of any recent travel history so they can make a decision about whether to test you.

It’s also worth mentioning that people shouldn’t be worried if they go to their doctor’s office and get tested for respiratory viruses and the results say they have a coronavirus. That’s because coronavirus is the name for a whole group of viruses, including things like the common cold. Most doctors’ offices can test for normal, everyday coronaviruses. If you see test results that say you have one, you shouldn’t worry. If you are being tested for Wuhan 2019 novel coronavirus, your doctor will be very, very specific and will be sure to walk you through any results that come back.
Is this new coronavirus virus airborne?
In infection control, we draw a line between things that are transmitted by droplets that can travel in the air briefly in respiratory droplets and things that are actually aerosolized and float around for a while. Think of droplets as small bits of fluid that you can feel and see when someone sneezes. You sneeze or cough and these droplets get on surfaces and then you touch them and get them on your hands, or they can fly right into your mouth or nose or eyes. That’s how most coronaviruses are transmitted and that’s how we think this one is too.
Aerosols are different. Think of hairspray after you use it in the bathroom. When you go back to the bathroom later, you may still be able to smell it because it’s lingering in the air. Obviously we’re learning a lot about this virus, but most coronaviruses aren’t airborne that way. Generally speaking, there may be times when some of these droplets or particles are airborne, but it’s limited.
Will wearing a facemask keep you safe from the Wuhan coronavirus virus, particularly if you're heading to an airport like O’Hare where passengers are being screened for the virus?
Wearing a facemask is one way to help protect yourself during any kind of respiratory outbreak. It can certainly help keep droplets of other people’s mucous and saliva out of your mouth and nose. However, it’s still really important you clean your hands, avoid touching your face and make sure you swap out your facemask regularly. Otherwise you’ll eventually just get whatever’s on the outside of the facemask on the inside.
Someone on my plane was coughing next to me. Should I worry I have the Chinese coronavirus?
Probably not, but you may have the flu. Thanks to the travel restrictions that are in place, you should assume most people who are coughing on planes right now don’t have this particular coronavirus. In the unlikely chance someone on your flight did have the Wuhan coronavirus, the local health department in your community will find you. If they don’t, then you weren’t exposed.


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Emily Landon, MD
Dr. Emily Landon specializes in infectious disease, and serves as medical director of antimicrobial stewardship and infection control.

https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/forefront/prevention-and-screening-articles/wuhan-coronavirus
 
Please also note, I have continued to call the Coronavirus the Wuhan Virus instead of the new faggot term,,,,its better to call a spade, a spade and no point hiding the fact that this virus was caused by Wuhan Tiongs and its causing problems for the people the world over
 
The kids and the younger ppl in the popn are less affected by the Wuhan virus...fatality rates are those with compromised immune systems. No different from getting the Flu,,,,and the flu is just as deadly or even more deadly to those with compromised immune systems and the elderly. And please the elderly are also closer to death no matter how u frame it,,does the world expect elderly to live forever? Death is part of life, deal with it..

The coronavirus appears to be sparing one group of people: Kids
PUBLISHED TUE, FEB 11 20202:59 PM ESTUPDATED 5 HOURS AGO

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  • The new coronavirus, named COVID-19, has sickened more than 43,100 people worldwide, but very few children appear to be among the confirmed cases.
  • About 80% of people who died from the virus in China were over the age of 60, and 75% had pre-existing conditions, according to a recent report from China’s National Health Commission.
  • A small study published Jan. 30 in the medical journal The Lancet found the average age of patients was roughly 55 years old.
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The new coronavirus that has already killed more people than the 2003 SARS epidemic appears to be sparing one population group: kids.
Of the more than 43,100 people it’s infected since Dec. 31, World Health Organization officials say the majority are over 40 years old and it’s hitting those with underlying health conditions and the elderly particularly hard.

“Increasing age increases the risk for death,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said Thursday at a news conference at the agency’s headquarters in Geneva. “It appears even over 80 is the highest risk factor.”
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Fortunately for many worried parents, there appear to be few confirmed cases of the virus among children so far. Officials caution that the virus is so new, there is still a lot that they don’t know about it and the data they are seeing today will likely look different a month from now.
About 80% of people who died from the virus in China were over the age of 60, and 75% had pre-existing conditions such as heart disease or diabetes, according to a recent report from China’s National Health Commission. A small study published Jan 30 in the peer-reviewed medical journal The Lancet found that the average age of coronavirus patients was roughly 55 years old. The study looked at 99 patients at Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan, China, from Jan. 1 to Jan. 20.
Last week, Singapore confirmed a case in a 6-month-old baby whose parents were also both infected, and an infant in China was born Feb. 2 with the virus. The baby’s mother also tested positive. But infections in children appear to rare for now, according to a Feb. 5 study in the peer-reviewed Journal of the American Medical Association.
Symptoms can include a sore throat, runny nose, fever or pneumonia and can progress to multi-organ failure or even death in some cases, world health officials say.

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Some infectious disease specialists and scientists say older adults may be more vulnerable to the virus, which has been named COVID-19, due to their weaker immune systems.
With age, immune systems weaken, leaving the elderly at an especially higher risk of developing serious complications from a respiratory illness, public health officials say.
“It’s usually the very old, sometimes the very young and certainly people with other medical conditions who typically have more severe manifestations,” said Isaac Bogoch, an infectious disease specialist and professor at the University of Toronto.
The apparent lack of children among confirmed coronavirus cases could also be because they are getting infected but developing more mild symptoms and aren’t being reported to local authorities, according to Marc Lipsitch, a professor of epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health. World health officials say they are working to improve surveillance of the disease and expect more mild cases to be reported. It could be a while before we have a clear picture on cases, Lipsitch said.
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“The data is coming out in so many places and so many forms,” he said in a recent interview.
The differences in symptoms among different age groups are seen in other respiratory illnesses as well. The seasonal flu, which infects millions in the U.S. each year, can usually be more severe in adults than children.
Thousands of children are hospitalized each year from the flu, but death is rare, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. However, between 50% and 70% of flu-related hospitalizations in the U.S. occur in people 65 years and older, and between 70% and 85% of deaths occur in the same age group, the CDC says.
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The lack of confirmed cases in children was also seen in another coronavirus. During the 2003 outbreak of SARS, which sickened 8,098 people and killed about 800 over nine months, the vast majority of cases infected older adults, according to WHO data. The case-fatality ratio for people age 24 or younger was less than 1%, according to WHO.
Even if children are only developing mild symptoms, Lipsitch said scientists still need to know whether they can still infect others at high rates. “This is a key uncertainty that needs to be resolved,” he said.
When asked whether mild cases are transmitting the virus, Kerkhove of WHO said Thursday that more studies need to be conducted.
“We need to look at mild individuals all the way to severe individuals,” Kerkhove said. “That systematic data collection and that sampling of mild cases, as well as severe cases, is something that is really urgently required for us to get a clear handle on this.”
Read CNBC’s live updates to see the latest news on the COVID-19 outbreak.
Correction: Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove is head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit. An earlier version misspelled her name.
 
The flu is even worse than the Wuhan Virus, they gahmens implement the same quarantine procedures for flu as compared to the Wuhan Virus?

Something far deadlier than the Wuhan coronavirus lurks near you, right here in America
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There’s a deadly virus spreading from state to state. It preys on the most vulnerable, striking the sick and the old without mercy. In just the past few months, it has claimed the lives of at least 39 children.
The virus is influenza, and it poses a far greater threat to Americans than the coronavirus from China that has made headlines around the world.
“When we think about the relative danger of this new coronavirus and influenza, there’s just no comparison,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and health policy at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. “Coronavirus will be a blip on the horizon in comparison. The risk is trivial.”
To be sure, the coronavirus outbreak, which originated last month in the Chinese city of Wuhan, should be taken seriously. The virus can cause pneumonia and is blamed for more than 800 illnesses and 26 deaths. British researchers estimate the virus has infected 4,000 people.

A second person in the U.S. who visited China has been diagnosed with the Wuhan virus, officials from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday. Public health workers are monitoring 63 additional patients from 22 states.
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Influenza rarely gets this sort of attention, even though it kills more Americans each year than any other virus, said Dr. Peter Hotez, a professor of pediatrics, molecular virology and microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston.

Influenza has already sickened at least 13 million Americans this winter, hospitalizing 120,000 and killing 6,600, according to the CDC. And flu season hasn’t even peaked. In a bad year, the flu kills up to 61,000 Americans.
Worldwide, the flu causes up to 5 million cases of severe illness worldwide and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization.
And yet, Americans aren’t particularly concerned.
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Fewer than half of adults got a flu shot last season, according to the CDC. Even among children, who can be especially vulnerable to respiratory illnesses, only 62% received the vaccine.
If Americans aren’t afraid of the flu, perhaps that’s because they are inured to yearly warnings. For them, the flu is old news. Yet viruses named after foreign places – such as Ebola, Zika and Wuhan – inspire terror.
“Familiarity breeds indifference,” Schaffner said. “Because it’s new, it’s mysterious and comes from an exotic place, the coronavirus creates anxiety.”
Some doctors joke that the flu needs to be rebranded.
“We should rename influenza; call it XZ-47 virus, or something scarier,” said Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.
Measles in the Democratic Republic of Congo has killed 5,000 people in the past year – more than twice as many as Ebola. Yet UNICEF officials have noted that the measles, which many Americans no longer fear, has gotten little attention. Nearly all the measles victims were children under 5.
Tom Frieden, Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, receives a flu vaccine in this file photo.


Some people may worry less about the flu because there’s a vaccine, whose protection has ranged from 19% to 60% in recent years. Simply having the choice about whether or not to receive a flu shot can give people an illusion of control, Schaffner said.
But people often feel powerless to fight novel viruses. The fact that an airplane passenger spread SARS to other passengers and flight crew made people feel especially vulnerable.
Because the Wuhan virus is new, humans have no antibodies against it. Doctors haven’t had time to develop treatments or vaccines.
The big question, so far unknown, is just how easily the virus is transmitted from an infected person to others. The WHO this week opted not to declare the Wuhan outbreak an international health emergency. But officials warn the outbreak hasn’t peaked. Each patient with the new coronavirus appears to be infecting about two other people.
By comparison, patients with SARS, or Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, spread the infection to an average of two to four others. Each patient with measles – one of the most contagious viruses known to science – infects 12 to 18 unvaccinated people.
Health officials worry that the new coronavirus could resemble SARS – which appeared suddenly in China in 2002 and spread to 26 countries, sickening 8,000 people and killing 774, according to the WHO.
The U.S. dodged a bullet with SARS, Schaffner said. Only eight Americans became infected, and none died, according to the CDC. Yet SARS caused a global panic, leading people to shutter hotels, cancel flights and close businesses.
Coronaviruses can be unpredictable, said Dr. Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. While some patients never infect anyone else, people who are “superspreaders” can infect dozens of others.
At Seoul’s Samsung Medical Center in 2015, a single emergency room patient infected 82 people – including patients, visitors and staff – with a coronavirus called MERS, or Middle East Respiratory Syndrome. The hospital partly shut down to control the virus.
“This is one of the finest medical centers in the world, on par with the Cleveland Clinic, and they were brought to their knees,” Osterholm said.
Yet MERS has never posed much a threat to the U.S.
Only two patients in the U.S. – health care providers who had worked in Saudi Arabia – have ever tested positive for the virus, according to the CDC. Both patients survived.
Hotez, who is working to develop vaccines against neglected diseases, said he worries about unvaccinated children. Most kids who die from the flu haven’t been immunized against it, he said. And many were previously healthy.
“If you’re worried about your health, get your flu vaccination,” Hotez said. “It’s not too late.”
Kaiser Health News (KHN) is a nonprofit news service covering health issues. It is an editorially independent program of the Kaiser Family Foundation that is not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente.
 
The ones that need treatment are now being ignored for those that are infected by the Wuhan Virus,,,maybe that is the silver lining in a dark cloud,,,the seriously ill and infirmed can move on which is in the best interest for themselves, the family and for society as a whole,,,

Shut out: Virus pushes China's seriously ill to back of queue
As focus turns to combating the coronavirus, people with life-threatening diseases say their needs are being neglected.
by Shawn Yuan
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Medical workers in protective suits help transfer the first group of patients into the newly completed Huoshenshan temporary field hospital in Wuhan in central China's Hubei Province [Xinhua via AP]

Medical workers in protective suits help transfer the first group of patients into the newly completed Huoshenshan temporary field hospital in Wuhan in central China's Hubei Province [Xinhua via AP]
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Chengdu, China - Authorities in China are stepping up efforts to contain the coronavirus outbreak in the central city of Wuhan, deploying thousands of nurses and doctors to the outbreak's epicentre and building new hospitals at breakneck speed to treat the tens of thousands infected.
The virus, which has killed more than 1,100 people, has stretched China's healthcare system, leaving not only those who have the virus, but also those battling even more severe and life-threatening diseases without access to medical care or even the drugs they need.
In Wuhan, whose 11 million residents are living under a virus-related lockdown, many people requiring treatment for conditions such as cancer and kidney disease say their medical needs have been neglected because of the focus on containing the outbreak. The virus, officially named Covid-19, can cause pneumonia and, in some cases, multiple organ failure and death.
Ruyi Wan is among those shut out from the system.
The 20-year-old woman was diagnosed with leukaemia in May last year, and was unable to beat the disease despite undergoing three rounds of chemotherapy.
"Her symptoms persisted: the treatment made her vomit, develop ulcers, and lose hair," her mother Juan Wan said.
"She's not afraid of all these, but she is terrified of the pain. Her legs hurt, her chest hurts, her stomach hurts … She is in too much pain to even stand straight or go to the bathroom by herself."

In December, doctors recommended Wan try chimeric antigen receptor (CAR) T-cell therapy, in which a patient's immune cells are altered to attack cancer cells, followed by a bone marrow transplant. But in January, the doctors came with the bad news: the bone marrow bank in Wuhan had been closed because of the viral outbreak.
Treatments on hold
Wan's parents tried to seek help in neighbouring Hebei Province, but were told that no hospitals were accepting patients from Wuhan.
Her mother said the news was devastating for Wan.
"Please let me die! I can't bear this pain anymore!" her mother recalled the young woman telling her last week.
Wan's case is not uncommon in Wuhan, where 28 of the 146 hospitals in the city have been designated to treat patients infected with the new virus.
A doctor at Wuhan's Tongji Hospital, who requested anonymity, told Al Jazeera that the outbreak has affected treatment for most other ailments.
"Most surgeries have been postponed due to the large number of unconfirmed coronavirus cases, [and] we have to be wearing full gear to do the normally basic surgeries, and we simply don't have enough supplies," she said.
"As a result, it's unfortunate that many patients, including cancer patients, are not getting proper treatment."

Other patients who are struggling to obtain medical treatment include people who need dialysis for late-stage kidney disease.
Xiaohong Min, a diabetic woman who contracted the coronavirus while also receiving treatment for kidney failure, messaged a support group set up on WeChat on February 8 saying she did not know "how long" she could last, according to messages seen by Al Jazeera.
The group, one of a number that have appeared on the app, is called "non-pneumonia patients seeking help" and includes about 200 people.
It was not the coronavirus that was killing her, according to the 42-year-old woman, who described her symptoms as mild. She said she feared for her life because no hospital could give her dialysis treatment.
"No hospitals are accepting coronavirus-infected patients except for the designated hospitals, but all of those are so packed and I've been waiting for six days to get hospitalised," Min wrote to the group.
"My pneumonia symptoms are not severe, but because I haven't had dialysis for so long, the toxin has been building up in my body for almost a week, and I haven't eaten for four days … I don't even need to get admitted to hospitals; I just need to get dialysis once and that will help me get through another three or four days."
After almost nine days without dialysis, Min said on Tuesday that she had finally received treatment for her kidneys at the Wuhan Red Cross Hospital.

Medical workers at several hospitals in Wuhan told Al Jazeera that there were a large number of dialysis patients who have not been getting proper treatment since the coronavirus outbreak.
"I have been constantly trying to link my patients to other hospitals after our dialysis centre was closed due to the outbreak," said Ling Ding, head nurse at the dialysis centre of Wuhan's Hanyang Hospital. "But all places are packed, so it's an incredibly difficult situation."
Hoping for a miracle
Al Jazeera contacted Wuhan's health commission for comment, but officials had not responded at the time of publication.
Jianhua Wang, deputy chief physician of the nephrology department at Wuhan Central Hospital, told Al Jazeera the "government had closed off the dialysis centres in all the designated hospitals to treat fever patients for the purpose of avoiding cross-infection."
He added: "We are aware of the large number of dialysis patients and are working around the clock to make sure they get treatment while minimising risk of infection."
The decision to shut down public transport has also affected those with chronic diseases who need regular medication, including people with conditions such as HIV [human immunodeficiency virus] .
"I haven't been able to get my drugs for three days because of the suspension of public transport, and I don't know where I could get the drugs," wrote one person with HIV in a WeChat group using the the pseudonym Xiaohui.
People with underlying conditions are also those with more vulnerability to the virus, and the WeChat groups are a way for them to find the support - medical, emotional or financial - that they need.
“When a grain of ash of the age falls on the shoulder of one person, it becomes a mountain,” Shing Di, who started the group where Min posted her plea, told Al Jazeera, quoting an old Chinese saying. “People are suffering and it’s not only unethical but also impossible for me to look away.”
While Min, was finally able to get dialysis, leukaemia patient Wan Ruyi continues to wait.
"Ruyi is too weak to be transported now," her mother said.
"But we are still waiting - I hope for a miracle because Ruyi is so young and has so many dreams. We can't let her die."
 
The cost to the economy,,,is it worth it? Want to jalan also walkway close,,all this for a virus less deadly than the flu

SingaporeF&B, retail businesses in CBD feel pinch as people work from home amid coronavirus concerns
While the CBD was still visibly bustling with office workers at lunchtime on Wednesday (Feb12), eateries and retailers located in the area said sales have gone down since the beginning of this week. (Photo: Rachel Phua).

By Rachel Phua
13 Feb 2020 06:11AM (Updated: 13 Feb 2020 11:59AM)
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SINGAPORE: Valentine’s Day is the occasion when Mdm Wong Li Hua makes the most money in the year.
But the florist was visibly frustrated when she spoke to CNA. Sales at her shop at The Arcade have fallen by 50 per cent compared to the same period last year after Singapore raised its Disease Outbreak Response System Condition (DORSCON) alert level to Orange last Friday, Mdm Wong said.

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Since the announcement, companies islandwide commenced their business continuity plans to limit the spread of the COVID-19. Many, including the financial institutions and technology giants that have offices in the Central Business District (CBD), have arranged to split employees’ shifts or have them work from home.
Besides fewer walk-in customers because those who work in the area are staying at home, the closure of the linkways between The Arcade and Clifford Centre has caused some confusion among her customers, Mdm Wong said.


Linkways between The Arcade and Clifford Centre have been closed. (Photo: Rachel Phua).

Some who finally made their way to her shop said they thought her store was closed, the florist said.
“Who isn’t worried,” Mdm Wong said in Mandarin of the virus creating a dent in her business. “Every year, we rely on this occasion to earn money.”
At lunchtime on Wednesday (Feb 12) afternoon, the CBD was still visibly bustling with office workers, but most owners and staff of the 13 eateries and retailers located in the area CNA spoke to said that sales are down anywhere between 10 and 50 per cent since the beginning of this week.
Other shopkeepers at The Arcade also saw a dip in sales.
At minimart Haja T&T Trading, its owner Haja Aladudeen said that against last week's records, his daily takings have tumbled by 40 per cent. He does not know what to do to shore up his business and can only fret in the meantime, he said.

Minimart Haja T&T Trading's owner Haja Aladudeen said that in the past week his daily takings have tumbled by 40 per cent. (Photo: Rachel Phua).

ZTP Ginseng Birdnest supervisor Loh Ken Tiam said that the Chinese medicinal shop has seen daily earnings dip by 30 per cent compared to last week. On a normal day, the shop takes in about S$2,000 to S$3,000, he said.
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Over at Tanjong Pagar, the situation was similar.
Tomy Chen, the co-owner of Pho Stop at Downtown Gallery, said that sales fell by 20 per cent on Monday, and 30 per cent on Tuesday and Wednesday compared to the same period last week.
If dine-in sales continue to fall, Mr Chen said some staff will be transferred to their delivery kitchens located at Lavender and Katong. He is hoping that an increase in demand for food deliveries will offset the dip at their CBD outlet.
Lum Von-Nie, who runs the Basil & Mint hawker stall at Amoy Road Food Centre, said that delivery orders have helped to cushion some of the dip in revenue. For example, she earned 20 per cent less on Tuesday week-on-week, but deliveries cut her losses by 10 per cent.

Lum Von-Nie, who runs the Basil & Mint hawker stall at Amoy Road Food Centre, said that sales from her delivery order has helped to cushion some of the dip in revenue. (Photo: Rachel Phua).

“It’s good that the authorities are quick to respond to false news, so hopefully that helps assure the public that there is no reason not to eat out,” Ms Lum, who runs the stall alone, said, “But yes, (I’m) bracing for the worst."
It is a difficult situation to be in, especially as F&B businesses operate on thin profit margins, said Mr Willin Low, owner of Relish@Frasers Tower. His lunch business has dropped by 45 to 55 per cent. Mr Low said he is in talks with other restaurant owners to see if they can come up with a plan collectively to tide through this period.
“Hopefully regular customers and landlords will support restaurants to keep them in business,” he added.
But for some others, it is business as usual.
One Korean grocery store shop assistant, who asked not to be named as he was not authorised to speak, said that sales have been brisk, especially over the weekend when people came to stock up on rice and instant noodles.
OFFICE STAFF WORKING FROM HOME
Last Friday, the Singapore Government moved the DORSCON status to Orange. The Ministry of Health urged companies to “step up” their business continuity plan, with suggestions that employees could telecommute or be divided into separate teams.
Banks, technology firms and property consultancies with offices in the CBD have heeded the advice and kickstarted their segregation strategies.
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United Overseas Bank (UOB) said in a media statement on Monday (Feb 10) that it activated its business continuity plans for all critical functions and services, with employees working from split sites, from home and on split shifts.
Similar measures have been put in place at DBS, according to a spokesperson. Its 12,000 employees across Singapore, either work from home or from separate sites.
A DBS employee was confirmed on Wednesday to be infected by the coronavirus, prompting the bank to evacuate 300 of its staff members from its offices on the 43rd floor at Tower 3 of Marina Bay Financial Centre.

Temperature screening notice at UOB Privilege Banking's branch at One Raffles Place. (Photo: Rachel Phua).

Twitter, whose Asia-Pacific headquarters is located in CapitaGreen, said that they have a “cross-functional operational taskforce in place (to) take necessary measures, including work from home policies, to protect our people and our business operations”.
Tech giant Facebook said that they have “taken steps to protect the health and safety of our employees”, although the company already has a flexible working approach in place. Microsoft noted a similar arrangement in their response.
Facebook and Microsoft’s Singapore offices are located at Marina One and Frasers Towers, respectively.
Real estate firm Colliers International, which has 350 employees in Singapore and an office in Asia Square, said that it has encouraged all its staff to work from home following the increase in the number of COVID-19 cases.
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“This flexible work arrangement will remain in place until the end of March 2020 and we will review the need to extend it,” its managing director Tang Wei Leng said.
Staff based at CBRE’s offices are also split into teams who are either working from home or at the office, the company said. Employees who are pregnant and those with prior respiratory conditions will work from home.
The property consultancy has about 1,600 employees in Singapore. Four hundred are based in one of its two offices at Paya Lebar Quarter or Six Battery Road. The rest of the estimated 1,200 are based off-site in clients’ offices.
 
Tamiflu has been around for a long time, what is use of using it, if it is only good for A flku?, as in one type of flu. So are the flu jabs, they are also good for some types of flu, but not all types, why take a jab? Until they find a vaccine, that can prevents you from getting a flu...the coronavirus now, is another flu bug right?, then , all the tamiflu or vaccines, is a waste of time. No one till now, has come out to advise people on what to eat, to boost the body immune system. All we have is to prevent using a face mask etc..in catching the virus.
 
Dear Forumners,

I am normally reserved about creating New Threads but due to the over reactions caused by the Wuhan Virus and the fact that its fatality rate is lower than the flu. I will post and comment on the disruptions the Wuhan Virus has caused and the illogical reactions by the people which results in the blind following the blind. Also the cost due to fear of the virus on the world economy which boils down to people's livelihood...Is it worth it?

When it's a matter of live and death, your economy your so-called 'livelihood' is worth nothing.
 
KNN the reasons is simple KNN firstly those people are alive till today whatever the leeport about numbers of flu death per year KNN secondly people are afraid of the unknowns just rike people are afraid of gouls KNN
 
Agree. It's not a death sentence. Don't be alarmed by the mortality rate. What it doesn't tell you is whether the deceased had pre existing health issues b4 infection. Recovery rate looks encouraging and that's a good sign.
 
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When it's a matter of live and death, your economy your so-called 'livelihood' is worth nothing.
Death by flu, death by terminal illness because these patients are ignored due to the Wuhan virus. What is the death rate for the Wuhan virus vs the flue etc..is that even logical? And people die everyday from other virus and diseases,,,why don't implement the same procedures for the flu? The fear of the virus,,,worse than the virus itself.




BAKU - Whether its Ebola, Zika, bird flu, SARS, or MERS, it seems that every year a new lethal disease comes out and shakes up the status quo. This year, it’s the Wuhan virus, a new strain of coronavirus that was previously unknown to science. It was recently declared a global health emergency by the World Health Organization, which called on all nations to take urgent measures to contain the respiratory disease. As of this writing, the story in the media is evolving faster than the pathogen. Be that as it may, the greatest danger from pandemics comes from public panic and government responses, not the disease itself. Let’s talk about that as we go over the timeless aspects of disease and geopolitics.
 
Well someone suicided in India thinking he has the coronavirus.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...man-died-suicide-becoming-convinced-infected/

Coronavirus: Indian man 'died by suicide' after becoming convinced he was infected
Father-of-three reportedly so terrified of infecting his family that he took his own life
ByJoe Wallen12 February 2020 • 3:20pm

An Indian father-of-three took his own life after convincing himself he had contracted coronavirus and would infect his family, it has been reported.
K. Bala Krishna – who lives in a small village in the Chittoor district of Andhra Pradesh – was told by doctors he had contracted an unknown virus after falling ill.
However, the 50-year-old became convinced he had picked up the coronavirus, now known as Covid-19, after watching videos online.
Alarming clips have been widely circulated on Indian social media of Chinese victims collapsing in public or being seemingly forced into government medical facilities against their will.
And his anxiety around the outbreak intensified last week when three cases were confirmed in Kerala. Its government declared a "state calamity" as it revealed more than 3,000 citizens had been quarantined after displaying symptoms.

Mr Bala Krishna’s family tried to reason with him, arguing that he had not come into contact with anyone else suffering from the virus.
However, he self-quarantined himself and pelted family and friends with stones when they approached. According to reports in the Times of India, he sneaked out of the family home during the early hours of Monday and took his own life.
It is thought to be the first death by suicide anywhere in the world linked to the coronavirus outbreak.
“My father kept on watching coronavirus-related videos the whole day and went on saying he has similar symptoms and that he was infected with the deadly virus,” the victim’s son told the Times of India.
“He told us that he feared the deadly virus could spread and others could get infected as well if they came anywhere close to him.”
On Tuesday, it was confirmed that a fourth Indian national had contracted the virus while living in the United Arab Emirates. The three previous cases in Kerala were in students who had returned from Wuhan, the Chinese city where the outbreak began.
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They are all currently receiving treatment in isolation and said to be in stable condition. Although the number of cases in India has been dwarfed by those in China – which has recorded more than 44,600 infections and 1,100 deaths – it is feared the handful of cases are the tip of the iceberg.
More than 9,400 people in India are currently being monitored by health care officials after displaying symptoms of the virus. Public health experts have also expressed their fears that the chronically underfunded and understaffed public Indian healthcare system would be unable to stop an outbreak spreading.
Around 20 per cent of those infected with Covid-19 are said to require immediate hospital treatment and in the majority of public hospitals patients already struggle to access a bed due to shortages.
The World Health Organization declared the outbreak as a global health emergency on January 30 over its fears the virus would take a devastating hold in a poorly-prepared South Asian or African country.
Health professionals report that each person who contracts the virus infects another two to three people in turn and India’s cities are some of the most densely populated in the world.
The ongoing panic has not been limited to India, with work on key infrastructure projects stalling in Sri Lanka after employees expressed fears they could contract the virus if they continued to work alongside Chinese colleagues.
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Agree. It's not a death sentence. Don't be alarmed by the mortality rate. What it doesn't tell you whether the deceased had pre existing health issues b4 infection. Recovery rate looks encouraging and that's a good sign.
Flu also has a good recovery rate,,,why is flu less demonised?
 
Well someone suicided in India thinking he has the coronavirus.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-...man-died-suicide-becoming-convinced-infected/

Coronavirus: Indian man 'died by suicide' after becoming convinced he was infected
Father-of-three reportedly so terrified of infecting his family that he took his own life
ByJoe Wallen12 February 2020 • 3:20pm

An Indian father-of-three took his own life after convincing himself he had contracted coronavirus and would infect his family, it has been reported.
K. Bala Krishna – who lives in a small village in the Chittoor district of Andhra Pradesh – was told by doctors he had contracted an unknown virus after falling ill.
However, the 50-year-old became convinced he had picked up the coronavirus, now known as Covid-19, after watching videos online.
Alarming clips have been widely circulated on Indian social media of Chinese victims collapsing in public or being seemingly forced into government medical facilities against their will.
And his anxiety around the outbreak intensified last week when three cases were confirmed in Kerala. Its government declared a "state calamity" as it revealed more than 3,000 citizens had been quarantined after displaying symptoms.

Mr Bala Krishna’s family tried to reason with him, arguing that he had not come into contact with anyone else suffering from the virus.
However, he self-quarantined himself and pelted family and friends with stones when they approached. According to reports in the Times of India, he sneaked out of the family home during the early hours of Monday and took his own life.
It is thought to be the first death by suicide anywhere in the world linked to the coronavirus outbreak.
“My father kept on watching coronavirus-related videos the whole day and went on saying he has similar symptoms and that he was infected with the deadly virus,” the victim’s son told the Times of India.
“He told us that he feared the deadly virus could spread and others could get infected as well if they came anywhere close to him.”
On Tuesday, it was confirmed that a fourth Indian national had contracted the virus while living in the United Arab Emirates. The three previous cases in Kerala were in students who had returned from Wuhan, the Chinese city where the outbreak began.
Show more
They are all currently receiving treatment in isolation and said to be in stable condition. Although the number of cases in India has been dwarfed by those in China – which has recorded more than 44,600 infections and 1,100 deaths – it is feared the handful of cases are the tip of the iceberg.
More than 9,400 people in India are currently being monitored by health care officials after displaying symptoms of the virus. Public health experts have also expressed their fears that the chronically underfunded and understaffed public Indian healthcare system would be unable to stop an outbreak spreading.
Around 20 per cent of those infected with Covid-19 are said to require immediate hospital treatment and in the majority of public hospitals patients already struggle to access a bed due to shortages.
The World Health Organization declared the outbreak as a global health emergency on January 30 over its fears the virus would take a devastating hold in a poorly-prepared South Asian or African country.
Health professionals report that each person who contracts the virus infects another two to three people in turn and India’s cities are some of the most densely populated in the world.
The ongoing panic has not been limited to India, with work on key infrastructure projects stalling in Sri Lanka after employees expressed fears they could contract the virus if they continued to work alongside Chinese colleagues.
Protect yourself and your family by learning more about Global Health Security. And sign up to our weekly newsletter here.
That is very good,,,,,natural selection at work. And would he have killed himself if he got the flu and afraid he will spread it to his family?
 
Because flu is passe, old news. This new one is more exciting, more profitable.
So its just to sell news for the media companies,,,,and of course the medical industry benefits too,,,so sacrifice 80% of the economy for the 20% ,,,,good trade off
 
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