The Dragon Has a Soft Underbelly: How China's Military has many Weaknesses

[Peiweh]

whats the point of building all those aircraft carriers and combat aircrafts........nobody ever talked about how great US's aircraft technology was during wwii........USA land army was a joke just like their air force.......their tanks were pieces of garbage that even russia didnt want when they lent it to them.......

america barely participated in the great land battles of wwii..................except against some yellow chinky slanty eye army that stood no chance against any of the western powers anyway......if it was germany or russia versus japan.......japan would have been defeated by 1940.




took over asia.........lmao u mean a bunch of poverty stricken third world countries and colonies most of them are still even till this day with barely any standing army or military firepower?

funny how the japanese turned from the russians and ran after they got their asses whooped in 1939?have u ever heard the story why the japs initially wanted to conquer siberia and its resources but changed their minds about turned and attacked USA and south east asia instead?

Now now China Troll I know you are bitter and jealous at the greatness of Amazing #1 in the world America and her glorious reign as king of the world since WWII. Fact is back then they were not the awesome hyperpower your PM Lee calls them today. No Mr China Troll, back then the world was multipolar several nations were the powers back then - Germany, France, Italy, Britain, Soviet Union, Japan and of course America.

But after the war only Amazing #1 America and the Soviet Union were all at mattered. And of course we had a bipolar world. And then the cold war which America won in 1991 and then only 1 power - a hyperpower - again your PM Lee's words not mine. I know it makes you very very angry but you cant do anything about it. Did I mention America won the cold war? I did, right?

But today we get to witness the pathetic and hopeless PRCs attempt to become a power - and its so funny, a nonstop joke with them screwing up everything you possibly could. So stay tuned and witness the unraveling of the world's worst power - the PRC! A real shitshow HA HA HA HA

 

[redbull313]

i dunno why u guys are so obssessed with military.........u know none of the superpowers will ever go to war with each other right..........in what universe would any country go to war just to prove its superiority?

world war 2 is fought for oil.....

the ultimate war is economic and japan has already been permanently crippled by USA........and china is slowly and inevitably winning the game bit by bit behind the scenes......

in 1980,world trade was dominated by USA.......the biggest trading partner of the world was overwhelmingly USA......today half the world is dominated by china both import and export wise.....

oh no not this again with the china stats that make no sense. next you will tell us china has aliens from outer space. And I will be here to tell you those aliens probably release all the bullshit stats that you love to quote.

 

[hokkienpeng]

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This is incorrect. Second largest Air Force in the world is the US Army. The US Navy is third. The Russian Air Force is fourth.

 

[redbull313]

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This is incorrect. Second largest Air Force in the world is the US Army. The US Navy is third. The Russian Air Force is fourth.

there are 5 branch of military in USA you moron, army, air force, navy, marines, and space force. get a clue

 

[leeisphtui]

Well its proven that the chinese cant fight so there is the soft underbelly

 

[hokkienpeng]

there are 5 branch of military in USA you moron, army, air force, navy, marines, and space force. get a clue

The US Army, US Navy, and US Marines each has its own fleet of military aircraft independent of USAF; most educated people know this. According to the web, in 2018:

US Air Force has about 5,400 aircraft,
US Army about 4,400,
US Navy about 4,000,
Russian Air Force about 3,600.

 

[mudhatter]

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This is incorrect. Second largest Air Force in the world is the US Army. The US Navy is third. The Russian Air Force is fourth.

All of those are incorrect.

It depends on the def of largest.

IF counted by the number of 'aircrafts' which incl UAV, then just buy 50k drones from Alibaba or DJI or whatever, and you got yourself the 'largest' air force in the world.


What they probably mean is Yankee naval aviation possess more 'modern' 5th/4++/4.5th gen fighter jet than any other country's air force.

Maybe Tiongs are close to Yankee navy's in terms of quantity of 'modern' fighter jets and other support assets. Closely followed by Russkies.

But naval aviation assets are inherently inferior.

During a Pitch Black Exercise Indonesia Su-30 defeated OZ super hornet. Had the hornet at their six. I saw the image, can't find it now.

Maybe @whoami @tanwahtiu even @syed putra the pretend Mamak can help.

 

[mudhatter]

The US Army, US Navy, and US Marines each has its own fleet of military aircraft independent of USAF; most educated people know this. According to the web, in 2018:

US Air Force has about 5,400 aircraft,
US Army about 4,400,
US Navy about 4,000,
Russian Air Force about 3,600.

A lot of those aircraft are drones/UAV, helicopters, transport aircraft, special missions aircraft etc.

 

[redbull313]

The US Army, US Navy, and US Marines each has its own fleet of military aircraft independent of USAF; most educated people know this. According to the web, in 2018:

US Air Force has about 5,400 aircraft,
US Army about 4,400,
US Navy about 4,000,
Russian Air Force about 3,600.

so then total is over 13,000.

 

[frenchbriefs]

oh no not this again with the china stats that make no sense. next you will tell us china has aliens from outer space. And I will be here to tell you those aliens probably release all the bullshit stats that you love to quote.

china stats by a amdk who owns a serious and extremely in depth and academic non mainstream economics channel and sometimes makes videos about china trying to warn the world about the real progress.....yeah its all bullshyt.......

cant wait for trump tard supporters to deny everything and claim fake news

people often mistake my motives,my job here isnt to promote china,my job here is to fight the illogical hate and understand where the world including china stands........instead of the incessant barking and frothing in the mouth,eyes red and bloodshot like rabid dogs u find on this forum like Peiweh.........all the screaming and gorilla chest beating but underlying facts and substance zero.......its like they are almost afraid to look at reality with impartiality and analyze facts.........rather live in their propaganda and endless gaslighting and chesthumping like all trumpies do.....

 

[frenchbriefs]

there are 5 branch of military in USA you moron, army, air force, navy, marines, and space force. get a clue

dont forget 1980s when reagan announced the star wars program.....where usa was going to build a death star to blow up any country on earth thats muslim,communist,socialist,mexican,black,poor or

 

[redbull313]

china stats by a amdk who owns a serious and extremely in depth and academic non mainstream economics channel and sometimes makes videos about china trying to warn the world about the real progress.....yeah its all bullshyt.......

cant wait for trump tard supporters to deny everything and claim fake news

people often mistake my motives,my job here isnt to promote china,my job here is to fight the illogical hate and understand where the world including china stands........instead of the incessant barking and frothing in the mouth,eyes red and bloodshot like rabid dogs u find on this forum like Peiweh.........all the screaming and gorilla chest beating but underlying facts and substance zero.......its like they are almost afraid to look at reality with impartiality and analyze facts.........rather live in their propaganda and endless gaslighting and chesthumping like all trumpies do.....

all negated by the wuhan virus that causes trillions in losses and destruction

you just dont get it

 

[frenchbriefs]

all negated by the wuhan virus that causes trillions in losses and destruction

you just dont get it

doesnt seem to have affected china's progress and economic influence so far.......

 

[kiketerm]

who has the most? its like saying who's lianjiao is the biggest

 

[leeisphtui]

doesnt seem to have affected china's progress and economic influence so far.......

that economic progress comes at a cost. environmental concerns and the rise of the china migrant into singapore, other places causing alot is issues.

the rising china tourism means more of them are travelling than ever before and the result? COVID-19 worldwide.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Will this destroy tiong lands space ambitions?

China to lose access to Australian space tracking station
FILE PHOTO: A model of the BeiDou navigation satellites system is seen at an exhibition to mark Chi
A model of the BeiDou navigation satellites system is seen at an exhibition to mark China's Space Day 2019 in Changsha, Hunan province, China, Apr 23, 2019. (File photo: REUTERS/Aly Song)
21 Sep 2020 01:50PM
(Updated: 21 Sep 2020 02:19PM)
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SYDNEY: China will lose access to a strategic space tracking station in Western Australia when its contract expires, the facility's owners said, a decision that cuts into Beijing's expanding space exploration and navigational capabilities in the Pacific region.

The Swedish Space Corporation (SSC) has had a contract allowing Beijing access to the satellite antenna at the ground station since at least 2011. It is located next to an SSC satellite station primarily used by the United States and its agencies, including NASA.

The Swedish state-owned company told Reuters it would not enter into any new contracts at the Australian site to support Chinese customers after its current contract expires. However, it did not disclose when the lease runs out.

"Given the complexity of the Chinese market, brought about by the overall geopolitical situation, SSC has decided to focus mainly on other markets for the coming years," the company said in an emailed response to questions.

The site is owned by SSC subsidiary, SSC Space Australia.

The Australian government did not immediately respond to questions on Monday (Sep 21).

The Chinese foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.

The expansion of China's space capabilities, which includes the growing sophistication of its Beidou navigation network, is one of the new frontiers of tension between the US and China, who are clashing on everything from technology and trade to Chinese activities in the disputed South China Sea.

READ: Australia faces down China in high-stakes strategy
Australia has a strong alliance with the United States, which includes working together on space research and programmes, while Canberra's diplomatic and trade ties with Beijing have also been fracturing.

China last used the Yatharagga Satellite Station, located about 350km north of the Australian city of Perth, in June 2013 to support the three-person Shenzhou 10 mission which completed a series of space docking tests, SSC said.

The SSC said the current contract supports Chinese scientific space missions within its programme for manned-space flights for telemetry, tracking and command services.

OVERSEAS EXPANSION

Ground stations are a vital part of space programmes given they create a telecommunications link with spacecraft. While stations have different capabilities, they can be equipped to coordinate satellites for civil-military Global Navigation Satellite Systems (GNSS) such as Beidou, Russia's GLONASS, the European Union's Galileo system and US-owned GPS.

 

[redbull313]

crybaby tiongs cannot tahan talk cock now suffer the consequences. fuck china

 

[rocket]

History of loser US army runroad back home.... Shameless aggressor lost a war to Asians.

Untold story mighty China army were behind fighting with the Vietkongness to victory.... No need to marketing China army victory who was fighting fearlessly to defend their neighbors from bankrupt beggar CAM...

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[hokkienpeng]

All of those are incorrect.

It depends on the def of largest.

IF counted by the number of 'aircrafts' which incl UAV, then just buy 50k drones from Alibaba or DJI or whatever, and you got yourself the 'largest' air force in the world.


What they probably mean is Yankee naval aviation possess more 'modern' 5th/4++/4.5th gen fighter jet than any other country's air force.

Maybe Tiongs are close to Yankee navy's in terms of quantity of 'modern' fighter jets and other support assets. Closely followed by Russkies.

But naval aviation assets are inherently inferior.

During a Pitch Black Exercise Indonesia Su-30 defeated OZ super hornet. Had the hornet at their six. I saw the image, can't find it now.

Maybe @whoami @tanwahtiu even @syed putra the pretend Mamak can help.

No drones. According to the Wikipedia pages for US Army, USAF, and USN,

US Air Force operates 5,047 manned aircraft,
US Army operates 4,406 manned aircraft,
US Navy operates 2,623 manned aircraft,
US Marine operates 1,304 manned aircraft.

The last two figures combine to give the earlier figure of 4000 for Navy.

 

[hokkienpeng]

so then total is over 13,000.

More. The National Guard has its own fleet of aircraft. What you might find more surprising is that the US Army has more boats than the US Navy:

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2018/september/save-armys-navy
https://www.army.mil/article/72469/armys_best_kept_secret_floats

In fact, even the USAF has its own fleet of boats:

https://www.wearethemighty.com/gear-tech/about-the-air-forces-navy