Thai Army ultimatum: Take Down The House & end Protest

[uncleyap]

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/11/26/headlines/headlines_30089479.php

Army ultimatum : House dissolution and PAD's end of protesting





A situation monitoring panel under the Army resolved on Wednesday to a dual call for the government to dissolve the House and the People's Alliance for Democracy to end its protests.


<!-- Google Dtail Ads --> Army chief Gen Anupong Paochinda said at a press conference that this is a best way out of the political turmoil as the rival camps will have to simultanously cease their fights.The panel expects the government to take the first move on the House dissolution, followed by the PAD to completely stop the opposition movement.
Should the government fail to heed the proposal, the bureaucracy might resort to civil disobedience to stop implementing government orders.
In case, the PAD fails to end the protests, social sanction will be imposed.
Anupong emerged after two-and-a-half hour meeting with academics and leading civil servants at the Army headquarter.

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[Alu862]

Do these great supporters know how to revive a broken economy?

 

[uncleyap]

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/11/26/headlines/headlines_30089472.php

COMMENTARY
From Skywalker to Darth Vader


By Tulsathit Taptim
The Nation
Published on November 26, 2008




Whether it wins or loses, the PAD will pay a big price for Suvarnabhumi closure


Sondhi Limthongkul was pleading for public sympathy Tuesday night. We regret causing major inconvenience, he said, referring to the seizure of the Suvarnabhumi Airport, but we have no choice. His political movement, the People's Alliance for Democracy, has been targetted for sporadic bomb attacks, and the climbing death and injury tolls are adding to the tragedy of October 7, when police tear gas fired on Parliament-bound protesters killed and maimed many.


The PAD's pain is understandable. Its reaction and subsequent responses are hardly so. When thousands of PAD members staged a blockade at Suvarnabhumi on Tuesday and penetrated the passenger terminal and scuffled with officials, causing a total shutdown of the international airport, what unfolded before us was the transformation of Skywalker into Darth Vader.


Imagine a son about to board a plane to go back home and see his dying mother. Imagine patients in need of urgent medical help stranded. Business deals with be delayed or cancelled. Countless appointments will be missed.


The point is, if these problems and circumstances seem trivial in the PAD's eyes, how could the movement ever expect others and the whole world to appreciate its own situation? Understanding works both ways. If the PAD wants others' sympathy, it has to give it out. As simple as that.


The PAD's latest, most provocative and controversial strategy may yet prove effective. With the military caught in the middle and reluctant to use force either to end the airport blockade or remove the current government, Somchai Wongsawat's administration is looking a bigger lameduck by the hours.

But whatever the outcome of the Suvarnabhumi operation, the PAD will not get the only thing as important as Somchai's resignation _ public understanding and sympathy.
This is not civil disobedience. It's the PAD holding air travellers hostage to push for its goal. It's the PAD leaders telling its loyal followers that if someone inflicts you harm, it's ok to get back even at the expense of innocent others. The airport seizure caused more trouble to people whose sympathy the PAD had sought than the politicians the movement has tried to dislodge.


The travellers suffer real human ordeals. Somchai and his government are only dealt political blows. How the PAD measures the plights of these two groups goes a long way to telling us its principles and ideologies.

Having fought Thaksin Shinawatra and his alleged nominees by standing firm on the issue of conflicts of interests, the PAD has found itself in serious danger of being unravelled ideologically through conflicting values.


The real price the PAD is paying is not the dwindling sympathy from the neutrals or the big ammunition the airport infamy has given its critics. "I'm so saddened and disappointed," said a man who only weeks ago went in and out of Government House on a daily basis to support the movement. "I'm sorry I joined its rally."


It's people like him that is the real cost of the Suvarnabhumi strategy. And the biggest price to pay maybe those PAD members joining the airport blockade or cheering the move back at Government House. The leaders have won their unquestionable loyalty, but risked blurring their conscience once and for all.


The PAD used to be a political movement that did the wrong things for the right reasons. It's impossible to consider the airport seizure to be morally right because it affects hundreds of thousands of innocent people _ the passengers, their relatives, friends or business partners. That damage cannot be translated into financial figures did not mean it was light.


The PAD leaders claim they are abandoning "Ahimsa" (non-violence and non-aggression) because its members have become victims and nobody cares. That is all right as long as what happened on Tuesday evening is shrouded with proclaimed noble goals. When the action is explained in the simplest term _ "We want you to resign or a large number of innocent travellers won't be going home" _ what is the difference between that and holding an innocent passer-by at knife-point to force a bank robber to lay down his gun?

 

[uncleyap]

Do these great supporters know how to revive a broken economy?

Not necessarily. And don't have to be. Every person / organization have a different role in the country / society. Political Leaders; Business Leaders; Faith Leaders; Military Leaders; all are different roles and there are different places for people with different abilities to play.

Your moron PAp LEEgime tried to be EVERYTHING. False-Claimed to be the BEST. And always fall flat on their face! :oIo:
Revive a broken economy? So that is your fucking department right? What is your great policy this time? Cut minister's pay and tighten peasants' belts? KNN where is Golden Era now? Huh?

 

[Alu862]

It's so nice to champion for freedom. After that, if people's lives ares still the same, what is so great about freedom?

 

[uncleyap]

It's so nice to champion for freedom. After that, if people's lives ares still the same, what is so great about freedom?

I let the others educate you on what is so nice about freedom.

When I have the opportunity to educate you, you will unfortunately learn from me about how painful I can make it for you to lose freedom and be in a brutal hell. OK? :(

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Truth hurts you again is it Yap?:rolleyes:

http://nationmultimedia.com/2008/11/26/headlines/headlines_30089472.php

COMMENTARY
From Skywalker to Darth Vader


By Tulsathit Taptim
The Nation
Published on November 26, 2008




Whether it wins or loses, the PAD will pay a big price for Suvarnabhumi closure


Sondhi Limthongkul was pleading for public sympathy Tuesday night. We regret causing major inconvenience, he said, referring to the seizure of the Suvarnabhumi Airport, but we have no choice. His political movement, the People's Alliance for Democracy, has been targetted for sporadic bomb attacks, and the climbing death and injury tolls are adding to the tragedy of October 7, when police tear gas fired on Parliament-bound protesters killed and maimed many.


The PAD's pain is understandable. Its reaction and subsequent responses are hardly so. When thousands of PAD members staged a blockade at Suvarnabhumi on Tuesday and penetrated the passenger terminal and scuffled with officials, causing a total shutdown of the international airport, what unfolded before us was the transformation of Skywalker into Darth Vader.


Imagine a son about to board a plane to go back home and see his dying mother. Imagine patients in need of urgent medical help stranded. Business deals with be delayed or cancelled. Countless appointments will be missed.


The point is, if these problems and circumstances seem trivial in the PAD's eyes, how could the movement ever expect others and the whole world to appreciate its own situation? Understanding works both ways. If the PAD wants others' sympathy, it has to give it out. As simple as that.


The PAD's latest, most provocative and controversial strategy may yet prove effective. With the military caught in the middle and reluctant to use force either to end the airport blockade or remove the current government, Somchai Wongsawat's administration is looking a bigger lameduck by the hours.

But whatever the outcome of the Suvarnabhumi operation, the PAD will not get the only thing as important as Somchai's resignation _ public understanding and sympathy.
This is not civil disobedience. It's the PAD holding air travellers hostage to push for its goal. It's the PAD leaders telling its loyal followers that if someone inflicts you harm, it's ok to get back even at the expense of innocent others. The airport seizure caused more trouble to people whose sympathy the PAD had sought than the politicians the movement has tried to dislodge.


The travellers suffer real human ordeals. Somchai and his government are only dealt political blows. How the PAD measures the plights of these two groups goes a long way to telling us its principles and ideologies.

Having fought Thaksin Shinawatra and his alleged nominees by standing firm on the issue of conflicts of interests, the PAD has found itself in serious danger of being unravelled ideologically through conflicting values.


The real price the PAD is paying is not the dwindling sympathy from the neutrals or the big ammunition the airport infamy has given its critics. "I'm so saddened and disappointed," said a man who only weeks ago went in and out of Government House on a daily basis to support the movement. "I'm sorry I joined its rally."


It's people like him that is the real cost of the Suvarnabhumi strategy. And the biggest price to pay maybe those PAD members joining the airport blockade or cheering the move back at Government House. The leaders have won their unquestionable loyalty, but risked blurring their conscience once and for all.


The PAD used to be a political movement that did the wrong things for the right reasons. It's impossible to consider the airport seizure to be morally right because it affects hundreds of thousands of innocent people _ the passengers, their relatives, friends or business partners. That damage cannot be translated into financial figures did not mean it was light.


The PAD leaders claim they are abandoning "Ahimsa" (non-violence and non-aggression) because its members have become victims and nobody cares. That is all right as long as what happened on Tuesday evening is shrouded with proclaimed noble goals. When the action is explained in the simplest term _ "We want you to resign or a large number of innocent travellers won't be going home" _ what is the difference between that and holding an innocent passer-by at knife-point to force a bank robber to lay down his gun?

 

[Char_Azn]

I let the others educate you on what is so nice about freedom.

When I have the opportunity to educate you, you will unfortunately learn from me about how painful I can make it for you to lose freedom and be in a brutal hell. OK? :(

The PAD stand in this is simple, the poor are stupid and should not be allowed to Vote. The current government may be corrupted(or so the opposition claims) but they were elected by the majority. Whether the majority are made up of stupid pple who doesnt know better is besides the point.

As a citizen of the country, the poor or uneducated still has a right to vote and their vote must still count. According to PAD, the poor and uneducated are too stupid and doesnt know how to choose what's good for them so they should not be given the rights to choose their leaders. Thaksin and the government may be corrupted but at least their policies are aimed towards benefiting the poor.

So here now we have a situation, should U choose a democratically elected government which is corrupted or an elitist, supposedly not corrupted opposition who thinks the poor and uneducated are stupid. As far as I'm concern, Thai so-called democracy and their opposition is a joke. Anyone talking about the the ability of their opposition to try and overthrow the government and even begin comparing their system and our system doesnt know a thing about democracy. There is a very good reason why the PAD refused the army chief's idea of having another election

 

[scroobal]

I let the others educate you on what is so nice about freedom.

You are the one that needs an education.

Sondhi limthongkul, the leader of PAD himself gave an interview stating that votes should not be given to the poor and rural people who don't understand.

That is already a big indication that he does not believe in democracy.

You really have no clue about politics.

 

[DannyBoyBoy]

I let the others educate you on what is so nice about freedom.

When I have the opportunity to educate you, you will unfortunately learn from me about how painful I can make it for you to lose freedom and be in a brutal hell. OK? :(

hey CLOWN, you are no difference from Harban Singh in the 80s.. LOL

 

[scroobal]

hey CLOWN, you are no difference from Harban Singh in the 80s.. LOL

Don't insult Harbans Singh. Firstly he actually stood for elections many times. He also formed a party and had members. He always announced a shadow cabinet which his secretary took on the role of Foreign Minister. He also had a long standing affair with his secretary while gainfully employed as a lawyer.

The guy seems to have done well.

 

[cleareyes]

I let the others educate you on what is so nice about freedom.

When I have the opportunity to educate you, you will unfortunately learn from me about how painful I can make it for you to lose freedom and be in a brutal hell. OK? :(

when the thai ecomony are in ruin, those PAD assholes will go into hidding and PPP will have to come out to clean up their shit.

with no food, there is no freedom to talk about.

think of basic needs 1st, not of idealogy that would create more poverty and hunger.

BTW, i support the shooting of PAD supporters. this time, they had gone too far.

 

[cleareyes]

Sondhi limthongkul, the leader of PAD himself gave an interview stating that votes should not be given to the poor and rural people who don't understand.

sound so much like PAP, who insist only their choosen elite should rule and all else should just follow without question.

 

[scroobal]

sound so much like PAP, who insist only their choosen elite should rule and all else should just follow without question.

Its is exactly like PAP. Old man actually thought of giving weightage to votes based on education, occupation which means diluting the votes of the poor etc. No different to Sondhi.

That is why I cannot understand Uncle Yap. Everyone else got the picture.

 

[cleareyes]

Its is exactly like PAP. Old man actually thought of giving weightage to votes based on education, occupation which means diluting the votes of the poor etc. No different to Sondhi.

That is why I cannot understand Uncle Yap. Everyone else got the picture.

Yap is blinded by his hate for the Lees, as long as its against the Lees, he would see no logic and reason no matter what its all about.

its too personal and personal issues give more discredit then anything else.

 

[Leegimeremover]

Yap is blinded by his hate for the Lees, as long as its against the Lees, he would see no logic and reason no matter what its all about.

its too personal and personal issues give more discredit then anything else.

PAP dogs in panic. They are resorting to low level personal attacks. We must be really making real headway in exposing their weaknesses and crime. Fellow monikers who believe in a better Singapore, step up the exposure of the crimes and folly of the establishment.

 

[samurai1110]

Another ass-hole ranting away.