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Tesla Teardown finds Electronics 6 years ahead of Toyota and VW

Hey bro how much will the Tesla Model 3 be in Sinkieland?

I doubt it is $130k. Which is the price of a Corolla? I may be wrong. Have been out of touch with car prices in sinkieland since 2010.
if there’s an established dealership that can import and “homologate” (go thru type approval process with regulatory bodies) tesla vehicles in large numbers, the overall cost per model 3 would not be higher than the cost incurred by an individual trying to import one on hisher own. moreover, there’s no “zero emission” incentives provided by the sg gov in terms of tax deduction, rebates, credits, etc. unlike in u.s. where the 1st 200k models sold enjoy a more than usd6.9k credit each. thus, if a longest range fully loaded model 3 were to cost around usd69k in u.s. it would be at least usd169k plus homologation fees and carbon emission surcharge in sg. may be around sgd269k when it’s all said and done by individual importer.
 
Tat is why I dont have any desire to get a car in singkieland. Grab n gojek is good enough for me. Too expensive to have a car n I hate feeding the pap. Life is hard enough as it is. No need to pay pap n makes things worse
 
Will the uk ban affect the car industry the world over including singkieland?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40726868
Britain is banning the sale of new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars from 2035
Thousands of new cars lined-up at a compound near Sheerness in Kent.
Thousands of new cars lined-up at a compound near Sheerness in Kent. Source: AAP
Britain will ban the sale of new petrol, diesel and hybrid cars from 2035, five years earlier than planned, in an attempt to stave off climate change.

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Britain plans to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035 - five years earlier than its previous target - in a bid to speed up efforts to tackle climate change.

But the UK government's commitment to reducing greenhouse gas emissions was questioned by the woman who was appointed by Prime Minister Boris Johnson to head a United Nations' global climate summit - and then was fired last week.

Sacked conference president Claire O'Neill said Britain's efforts to fight climate change were "miles off track."

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Britain has pledged to reduce its net greenhouse gas emissions to zero by 2050. But the government's advisory Committee on Climate Change has warned that domestic action to slash carbon dioxide and other gases that contribute to global warming is lagging far behind what is needed.

The UK's new 2035 target for ending gas and diesel sales is one of the world's more ambitious.

Several countries including France plan to stop by 2040. Norway - one of the most aggressive early adopters of electric cars - has a goal, but not a requirement, to eliminate gas and diesel cars, excluding hybrids, by 2025.

But environmental groups said Britain's goal was not ambitious enough.

A landmark ruling by a German court allows for cities to ban diesel cars, a move that could have drastic consequences for the country's powerful auto industry.
A landmark 2018 ruling by a German court allows for cities to ban diesel cars.
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Rebecca Newsom, head of politics at Greenpeace UK, said "phasing out the internal combustion engine faster is an important piece of the puzzle."

"However, pushing the date later than 2030 would vastly reduce the chances of meeting our climate targets, and the potential to deliver thousands of electric vehicle manufacturing jobs," she said.

The UK says it will bring in a ban on fossil-fuel cars and vans even earlier than 2035 "if a faster transition is feasible." The ban will also include hybrid vehicles.

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The auto industry reacted coolly to the announcement. Mike Hawes, chief executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, said the automakers were already moving toward "a zero-emissions future," and said the government had "moved the goalposts for consumers and industry."

The announcement was timed to coincide with the launch of Britain's plans for the climate summit, known as the 26th Conference of the Parties, or COP26. It is scheduled to be held in Glasgow in November.

Mr Johnson kicked off a year of build-up Tuesday alongside naturalist David Attenborough and Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte at London's Science Museum. Italy is hosting a preparatory meeting for the conference.

The British prime minister said the world had seen "a catastrophic period of global addiction to hydrocarbons that got totally out of control."

"We have to deal with our CO2 emissions, and that is why the UK is calling for us to get to net-zero as soon as possible, to get every country to announce credible targets to get there - that's what we want from Glasgow" Mr Johnson said.

"And that's why we have pledged here in the UK to deliver net-zero by 2050."

Britain's tenure at the helm of COP26 is getting off to a rocky start. On Friday, Mr Johnson sacked Ms O'Neill, a former British government minister appointed last year to head up the event. Her replacement has not been announced.

Source AAP - SBS
 

HSK just announced. Finally they see the light and are back tracking on their opposition to EVs. Masagos was obviously talking shit in his 2019 interview with ST. (https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...electric-cars-are-about-lifestyle-not-climate)

“We will set a long-term strategic goal for Singapore to achieve this. Our vision is to phase out ICE vehicles and have all vehicles run on cleaner energy by 2040.”

As part of moving towards this vision, the Government will introduce the EV Early Adoption Incentive, where those who buy fully electric cars and taxis will receive a rebate of up to 45 per cent on the Addition Registration Fee, said Mr Heng.

Such a rebate is capped at S$20,000.

Also from January 2021, the road tax methodology for cars will also be revised to “better reflect the current trends in vehicle efficiency”, said Mr Heng. This will lead to an “across-the-board” reduction in road tax for EVs and some hybrids, he added.

However, the transition toward EVs will also have a “major impact” on Singapore’s tax revenues, said Mr Heng.

“Fuel excise duties today yield about $1 billion per year, and are significant contributors to government revenues,” he said. “They are also a form of mileage tax, which discourages excessive driving, especially in private cars, and thus helps to reduce road congestion. But EVs do not pay fuel excise duties. Therefore, we will need to update our vehicular tax structure to preserve these two considerations.

“Ideally, we would like to implement a usage-based tax on EVs as an alternative to fuel excise duties. But the technology to do this properly on EVs is the Next Generation ERP system, and the distance-based charging using ERP is still several years away.”

In the interim, the Government will impose a lump-sum tax that will be built into the road tax schedule for EVs to “partly account” for the loss in fuel excise duties, said Mr Heng.

This lump-sum tax will be phased in over three years starting from January 2021, with the full quantum implemented by January 2023.

“Total road tax, after the revision in methodology and the new lump-sum tax, will be higher for some EV models,” said Mr Heng. “However, EV buyers can expect to enjoy substantial cost savings because of the significant EV Early Adoption Incentive.”

In addition, there are also plans to expand the public charging infrastructure for EVs, said Mr Heng.

While today there are about 1,600 charging points island-wide, the Government, with the help of the private sector, aims to deploy up to 28,000 chargers at public carparks around the island.

The Government will also “take the lead” and progressively procure and use cleaner vehicles to do its part for the environment, added Mr Heng.

“Here we are placing a significant bet on EVs, and leaning policy in that direction because it is the most promising technology,” explained Mr Heng. “It also requires a significant increase in demand to justify the infrastructure investment. This is a significant undertaking involving multiple agencies.”
 
if there’s an established dealership that can import and “homologate” (go thru type approval process with regulatory bodies) tesla vehicles in large numbers, the overall cost per model 3 would not be higher than the cost incurred by an individual trying to import one on hisher own. moreover, there’s no “zero emission” incentives provided by the sg gov in terms of tax deduction, rebates, credits, etc. unlike in u.s. where the 1st 200k models sold enjoy a more than usd6.9k credit each. thus, if a longest range fully loaded model 3 were to cost around usd69k in u.s. it would be at least usd169k plus homologation fees and carbon emission surcharge in sg. may be around sgd269k when it’s all said and done by individual importer.

So you agree a base spec 35k model 3 will cost around $130k in SG? Maybe topping out around $150k SGD. Considering the new incentives HSK just announced.
 
a piece of tesla is already USD$800+ per share. hsk wants to abolish dependence on petroleum. all pointing to the future is electric car.
 
Car O/S (operating system) going to be another major industry by itself in time to come. the traditional automakers are hardware people, they know nuts about making chips and O/S.

Amazon and Blackberry teaming up. Google probably has an Andriod for Cars up their sleeves. Tesla is already way ahead in the game as per the article by Froggy. Wonder if iOS will have a car version too.
actually already done. android for cars actually too late to make inroads. windows was in cars 20 years ago, but go rejected for too much crashing...:laugh:
 
So you agree a base spec 35k model 3 will cost around $130k in SG? Maybe topping out around $150k SGD. Considering the new incentives HSK just announced.
double that in sgd for a fully loaded version if imported individually by owner and may be sgd169k for a low end or base version if imported by established dealership.
 
Tesla makes rockets too I'm not surprised if their technology is six years ahead of everybody else.
 
actually already done. android for cars actually too late to make inroads. windows was in cars 20 years ago, but go rejected for too much crashing...:laugh:

i think the future O/S will control more than just your radio and GPS/map. the analogy will be, controlling radio and GPS are but 2 apps on your iphone. the o/s runs the entire phone. it will run everything from battery/engine management to self drive to entertainment.
 
double that in sgd for a fully loaded version if imported individually by owner and may be sgd169k for a low end or base version if imported by established dealership.

so bare base version which i'm talking about will be 150k ball park. give or take. depending on prevailing COE.
 
150k for a 5.4 sec car. Awesome value proposition in Singapore for a speedy ride.
can’t really take it out on a (fast) spin on sg roads. it’s not the congestion. too many xiaxuay idiots as ccs has mentioned.
 
can’t really take it out on a (fast) spin on sg roads. it’s not the congestion. too many xiaxuay idiots as ccs has mentioned.

yes yes we should all drive safely like automatons :biggrin:

autonomous mobility might be coming to an end once FSD (full self drive) takes over and cars get sold without steering wheels :frown:

human errors are the no.1 cause of accidents on the roads. perhaps in our lifetime, human drivers will be removed from public roads.
 
yes yes we should all drive safely like automatons :biggrin:

autonomous mobility might be coming to an end once FSD (full self drive) takes over and cars get sold without steering wheels :frown:

human errors are the no.1 cause of accidents on the roads. perhaps in our lifetime, human drivers will be removed from public roads.
human drivers are also a major part of the problem for autonomous vehicles to get into accidents.
 
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