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Teo Chee Hean / Mindef - Truly a disgrace .

The_Latest_H

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Still doesn't give an example why he should be paid 10x more than President Obama.

And Obama is running a country that is still the military might to influence a huge chunk of world opinion. PM Lee in contrast, can't even influence Malaysia.
 

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Still doesn't give an example why he should be paid 10x more than President Obama.

And Obama is running a country that is still the military might to influence a huge chunk of world opinion. PM Lee in contrast, can't even influence Malaysia.


It's not supposed to give an example of why he should be paid so high. It's supposed to give an example of why he shouldn't be paid so high. :biggrin:
 

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Once a upon a time, people on the ground were talking about a man whom they perceived to be one who undertook the mission and responsibility of a government minister out of a sense of duty and not for prestige and remuneration. A man from a privileged background and with a respected and well earned record of being the best and most admired Navy chief as attested by so many ex-Navy personnel.

I remember that I chanced on meeting him arriving on the first day of his job as a minister at the old Treasury Building. Separated by a glass wall, our eyes met, I gave him a thumbs up and he returned it with a wave and grin. A good few years later, while driving along Holland Road in the morning, saw him jogging. Alone! To me then. it says a lot about the character make-up of the man.

Sad it is that he is now, linked irreparably to the ruling junta forever.
 

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Once a upon a time, people on the ground were talking about a man whom they perceived to be one who undertook the mission and responsibility of a government minister out of a sense of duty and not for prestige and remuneration. A man from a privileged background and with a respected and well earned record of being the best and most admired Navy chief as attested by so many ex-Navy personnel.

I remember that I chanced on meeting him arriving on the first day of his job as a minister at the old Treasury Building. Separated by a glass wall, our eyes met, I gave him a thumbs up and he returned it with a wave and grin. A good few years later, while driving along Holland Road in the morning, saw him jogging. Alone! To me then. it says a lot about the character make-up of the man.

Sad it is that he is now, linked irreparably to the ruling junta forever.

He was one of the few within the PAP that I held in good regard. A son of very rich and humble man whose fortunes were linked with OCBC yet like his father he was humble. Truly a nice man in personal life.

Yet he has to be held accountable. This is not the only incident. The Chief of Commandos after drowning incident ended up playing golf in beautiful NZ as Military Aide at the Singapore High Commission . Not much of a punishment if you ask me. Especially after strong words from Teo about accountability and his immediate transfer of the chap to PDF when the incident surfaced.

Some how accountability at a personal level is not part of senior elite program. Seems to me the daughter of Ang Mo Kio GRC MP Wee knew the rules of the program well.
 

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It's not supposed to give an example of why he should be paid so high. It's supposed to give an example of why he shouldn't be paid so high. :biggrin:

Yeah I know. I mean he's paid S$2-3m a year, and he can't even influence his father to take a different direction since times have changed. And he has to have 2 DPMs and a yaya papaya SM.

President Obama has Vice-President Biden and his CoS, Rahm Emanuel in his White House, and they are his on-the-spot advisers, all below his rank...and that's it.
 
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I am glad the court found Mindef liable for the NSman who remained in a comatose state.

Really a disgrace when what was clear was that

1) He was still on duty as the duty storeman
2) He was in army gear
3) He was in camp
4) No one knew what had happenned
5) No prior medical history or any history of he behaving oddly

What was the basis of walking away from doing the decent thing? You want to run a fucking country and yet you want to penny pinch. Fucking PMs wife can lose Billions but can't pay for a citizen who will never smell roses for doing something that was asked of him by the state.

This country does not need hip hop MPs or MPs who need to be escorted by Sr Nursing staff from from the front of the building to visit a colleague that they can't even see the chap as it is Burns ICU and kept isolated. Why pay money putting up direction signs when a fucking low life MPs can't even seem to find the ward.

Did anyone go see this kid when was warded.

Why are we paying so much for ministers and arseholes who wanted to walk away with no basis when the kid was doing NS which is a state obligation.

Teo Chee Hean needs to resign, his wife needs to resign from NTUC and find a real job. Use the wife's salary and pay the kid's costs - a win win for formula for state and the kid. Too bad for the wife.
HeHeHe,MInister Teo oproclaimed

MONEY NO ENOUGH LAH

BY ORDER-BIG CHIEF

That explains it!
 

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PM Lee in contrast, can't even influence Malaysia.

Influence others? He could not even influence his own wife who is running amok with the nation's reserves.

Yeah I know. I mean he's paid S$2-3m a year, and he can't even influence his father to take a different direction since times have changed. And he has to have 2 DPMs and a yaya papaya SM.

This is very much beyond him. He has the father (MM) and an SM to hold onto his balls for him. Notice how he goes MIA at every crisis - MSK case the most glaring? He waits for daddy to make a public statement before he comes out of hiding.

How are we to be proud of such a wimp? In fact, I feel downright shameful and the best part is, he thinks he is A-team or Div 1.
 

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I am glad the court found Mindef liable for the NSman who remained in a comatose state.

It is indeed a downright shame on the MIW's (esp Minister Teo) that the family had to go to court to get them to accept responsibility. MIW's sell "Serve NS to defend the nation", but it is extremely clear that when it comes to the crunch, the MIW's desert the NS men.

To all parents of NS men, once they are in camp they are 24/7 under the responsibility of the Ministry and yet they try to slime out of it. Shame, shame, shame.
 

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"Who say we never assist? Chut 80% not enough issit? Not happy ah?
Vote me out lah... oh u can't because i got walkover hehehe..."

he did not get a walkover because i get to vote for the opposition SDA in 2006.

Spoke to him once, quite straight forward man who tell you straight that nothing they can do and why they cant do and who i should approach. At least much better then previous 2 meet the people session talking to the lady mp, does not bother to listen to you, and start telling you she will write letter to xxx, like a routine thing to be done as an mp and she will be able to collect her $13,900 every month.
 

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he did not get a walkover because i get to vote for the opposition SDA in 2006.

Spoke to him once, quite straight forward man who tell you straight that nothing they can do and why they cant do and who i should approach. At least much better then previous 2 meet the people session talking to the lady mp, does not bother to listen to you, and start telling you she will write letter to xxx, like a routine thing to be done as an mp and she will be able to collect her $13,900 every month.

You had the same kind of experience with a woman MP like what I had with the Penang Cheebye Irene Ng?
 

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If they can shirk/avoid their responsibility to the extent of going to Court to evade it, what do you think will happen during a real crisis,like in battle or war esp when large numbers of people are involved?

Did they even think of what is going through the minds of those whom they expect to bear arms during battle/war.Just contrast this with the billions they spent to support all those foriegn institutions.

Could it be that some FT's who did not serve NS was involed in the decision .
 

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HeHeHe,MInister Teo oproclaimed

MONEY NO ENOUGH LAH

BY ORDER-BIG CHIEF

That explains it!

Well, they have the money. The old man and Mr. Teo however, obviously doesn't have the will- to even recognise they have screwed up. Such is the attitudes of stone-hearted 'leaders'. You wonder where are their empathy have gone to.
 

R4g3

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You had the same kind of experience with a woman MP like what I had with the Penang Cheebye Irene Ng?

NO! She is Pxxxy Lxw!

I was actually accompanying a friend for the meet the people session and she was the one having some trouble or injustice i would say.

She was very mad with this mp and even after a few years, when she saw the photo of the mp at the notice board next to the lift of her block, she will still be scolding.
 

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Well written , I agree totally screw Mindef many many times for spending billions on stupid A-star projects and hardware. But "software" they are full of shit, still don't inprove someone should just gun them down . Injustice and all high up there ministars !

All these dirty MIW led by Dirty Harry only interested to milk to citizen till they are dry, they are not interested in taking care of the people.

"Every Singaporean count" my ass! Your action and policies will tell show if you mean what you say.

Expect more MP to be BBQ!
 
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