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Tang jailed for a day and fined in kidney—for—sale case
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In animal farm they put the sick horse to the glue factory....if the pigs are sick, they send to where? I think Orwell did not touch on this
Not really true. I think it all hinges around the specific offence and nature and circumstances around that specific offence. In ST today it was reported that one chap with cancer was jailed for afew months. I think it was a more serious offence than Tang's taking everything into consideration. Tang's case appears to be more of one off although Judicial Mercy may be applied in other cases depending on all factors.
Next time, before you commit any offence, you better make sure you have some kind of medical condition that does not permit you to stay in jail for too long. In other words, when you are ill & cannot afford to stay in jail for too long, it is the best time to do the crime.
Broker get 14 months and old man Tang gets 4 hour time off at CP?
I do not know how much old man Tang paid him to become the scapegoat..
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Middleman in kidney—for—sale deal gets 14 months’ jail; out on bail
SINGAPORE: The man who brokered the kidney—for—sale deal, Wang Chin Sing, was on Friday sentenced to 14 months’ jail. He is out on a S$60,000 bail, pending an appeal. He is the fourth person to be sentenced in this case.
Wang, 44, had introduced Indonesian kidney donor Sulaiman Damanik to local retail magnate Tang Wee Sung. Wang also coached them to lie to the Commissioner of Oaths about the illegal kidney donation.
Wang had also introduced another Indonesian donor, Toni, to an Indonesian woman, Juliana Soh, for a successful illegal kidney transplant here. These were among the five of 10 charges Wang pleaded guilty to. The remaining five charges were taken into consideration during the sentencing.
Tang was on Wednesday jailed for a day and fined S$17,000. Sulaiman was jailed for three weeks, while Toni served three—and—a—half months and was fined S$2,000 in July.
Reading out his judgement in court on Friday, District Judge Ng Peng Hong said Wang was clearly not a mere medical concierge, but a middleman who actively brokered the illegal deals. The judge added that the case smacks of being a syndicated operation.
Judge Ng said Wang was clearly the prime mover in the illicit organ trading.
"He negotiated the price for the purchase and supply of the kidney. He sourced for the kidney. He orchestrated the entire course of action that needed to be taken... for the transplant operation to be carried through," said Judge Ng.
He added that condoning Wang’s conduct could lead Singapore into becoming a hub for illegal organ trading.
Lawyer Shashi Nathan, in Wang’s defence, had suggested a total of 12 weeks in jail, saying his client did not intend to exploit the poor and his actions were motivated by sympathy and compassion, and not greed.
But the prosecution called for a deterrent sentence, saying he had no qualms exploiting both the donor and recipient. They said Wang was one of the directing minds behind the scams, if not the directing mind.
Mr Nathan expressed disappointment in the sentence. "Disappointed in the sense that given the sentences that were meted out earlier to other people who were involved, I thought 14 months was a bit high," he said.
About five family members, including Wang’s wife, were in court for his sentencing. Wang was expressionless when the sentence was passed.
Mr Nathan said: "He’s obviously disappointed and I think he’s a bit numb. He came in today, prepared to go to jail, of course, and he’s hoping that he could start his sentence today."
But after the sentence was passed, Wang decided to file an appeal, which is expected to be heard in the High Court in about two months.
A fifth and last person involved in this case, Whang Sung Lin, has been charged with introducing Wang to Tang. His trial is being arranged.
I do not know how much old man Tang paid him to become the scapegoat..
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Middleman in kidney—for—sale deal gets 14 months’ jail; out on bail
SINGAPORE: The man who brokered the kidney—for—sale deal, Wang Chin Sing, was on Friday sentenced to 14 months’ jail. He is out on a S$60,000 bail, pending an appeal. He is the fourth person to be sentenced in this case.
Wang, 44, had introduced Indonesian kidney donor Sulaiman Damanik to local retail magnate Tang Wee Sung. Wang also coached them to lie to the Commissioner of Oaths about the illegal kidney donation.
Wang had also introduced another Indonesian donor, Toni, to an Indonesian woman, Juliana Soh, for a successful illegal kidney transplant here. These were among the five of 10 charges Wang pleaded guilty to. The remaining five charges were taken into consideration during the sentencing.
Tang was on Wednesday jailed for a day and fined S$17,000. Sulaiman was jailed for three weeks, while Toni served three—and—a—half months and was fined S$2,000 in July.
Reading out his judgement in court on Friday, District Judge Ng Peng Hong said Wang was clearly not a mere medical concierge, but a middleman who actively brokered the illegal deals. The judge added that the case smacks of being a syndicated operation.
Judge Ng said Wang was clearly the prime mover in the illicit organ trading.
"He negotiated the price for the purchase and supply of the kidney. He sourced for the kidney. He orchestrated the entire course of action that needed to be taken... for the transplant operation to be carried through," said Judge Ng.
He added that condoning Wang’s conduct could lead Singapore into becoming a hub for illegal organ trading.
Lawyer Shashi Nathan, in Wang’s defence, had suggested a total of 12 weeks in jail, saying his client did not intend to exploit the poor and his actions were motivated by sympathy and compassion, and not greed.
But the prosecution called for a deterrent sentence, saying he had no qualms exploiting both the donor and recipient. They said Wang was one of the directing minds behind the scams, if not the directing mind.
Mr Nathan expressed disappointment in the sentence. "Disappointed in the sense that given the sentences that were meted out earlier to other people who were involved, I thought 14 months was a bit high," he said.
About five family members, including Wang’s wife, were in court for his sentencing. Wang was expressionless when the sentence was passed.
Mr Nathan said: "He’s obviously disappointed and I think he’s a bit numb. He came in today, prepared to go to jail, of course, and he’s hoping that he could start his sentence today."
But after the sentence was passed, Wang decided to file an appeal, which is expected to be heard in the High Court in about two months.
A fifth and last person involved in this case, Whang Sung Lin, has been charged with introducing Wang to Tang. His trial is being arranged.
Its rather sad really. No wonder there are several selfish tycoons who don't mind moving to Singapore and stay there for a long time. When they don't have to answer to their social responsibilities and follow the law like anyone else, its gonna be heaven.
And who can blame them?
And who can blame them?
And maybe hand out some Tangs VIP discount card for the wardens. Maybe sign some autographs.
One country, two justice system? 
Re: Tang jailed for a day and fined in kidney—for—sale case
Has Wilma bathed yet ??
One country, two justice system?
Has Wilma bathed yet ??
Re: Tang jailed for a day and fined in kidney—for—sale case
Careful what comes out of her love onto your cock!!
Wilma is riding me now.
Careful what comes out of her love onto your cock!!
Please do not distort the facts. This man Wang was the organ trader and that is a fact. Thus the deterrence sentence. Tang's newphew in law who allegedly received $100K commission for introducing Tang to Wang must now be shitting in his pants if that is indeed true as he shall probably get a jail sentence as well.
Z
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The fact is, Wang was never a trader.
In this case if someone says he needs a new kidney without saying how it is obtained is not guilty of a serious offence? Old man Tang knows how the kidney would be obtained illegally and yet he went through with it. Doesn't that make his less guilty of the offence.
Seller - 3 weeks jail
Alleged trader - 14 mths jail
Benefactor (although unsuccessful) - 1 day jail + SGD17K only???
Where is the fainess in the judiciary?
If I am to assume your argument, would someone who received an organ knowing that the donor would die becoz of this be less guilty of the offence also?
If knowing that the old man cannot be held in prison for a long term, why not increase his fine? Afterall 17K is an inconsequential amount to the man and which would not create a dent to his wealth or the share to his beneficiaries when he dies.
And what is your basis to back up such a claim, when the Court appears to have determined otherwise based on all submissions
Note Wang was involved in more than one case of 'organ trading' just based on these matters, make of that what you may
Note Wang was involved in more than one case of 'organ trading' just based on these matters, make of that what you may
First there is no "alleged" trader ok. Wang has been determined to be a trader, pure and simple. 14 months appears to be a deterrence sentence to put other organ traders on notice.
Next point on your assumption that an organ recipient who purchases the organ knows or ought to know that willing organ seller shall "die" from such a transaction is flawed and misconceived. Moreover this is a pure commercial transaction unless coercion can be proven which is not the case in Tang's case.
Now to main issue, comparing the sentence of the willing seller to the sentence of the buyer. From all accounts the reasons why Tang did not get a longer jail term was because of his serious medical condition, the Court based on these specific circumstances appeared to invole Judicial Mercy. The seller on the otherhand is I believe healthy. As for the fines, I don't think the Court can willy nilly impose any amount as fines, there are fixed max amounts.
Next point on your assumption that an organ recipient who purchases the organ knows or ought to know that willing organ seller shall "die" from such a transaction is flawed and misconceived. Moreover this is a pure commercial transaction unless coercion can be proven which is not the case in Tang's case.
Now to main issue, comparing the sentence of the willing seller to the sentence of the buyer. From all accounts the reasons why Tang did not get a longer jail term was because of his serious medical condition, the Court based on these specific circumstances appeared to invole Judicial Mercy. The seller on the otherhand is I believe healthy. As for the fines, I don't think the Court can willy nilly impose any amount as fines, there are fixed max amounts.
That's why old men can get away from canning with squeezing of breasts !
Z
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And what is your basis to back up such a claim, when the Court appears to have determined otherwise based on all submissions
Note Wang was involved in more than one case of 'organ trading' just based on these matters, make of that what you may
Read the news article again. Wang was charged for his role as a BROKER, not a TRADER.
You may call Wang a middleman (to some extent), a broker, an agent, a runner, a representative or even a service provider, but you cannot call him a trader.
Trader acts solely in self-interest, as a buyer to one party and afterwhich as a seller to another party. Broker acts in the interests of his client.
There is no fiduciary duty between the trader and his counterparts in trade. A broker being an agent, is fiduciary of his client (the principal).
For the trader, the authority to act in a deal comes from himself. For the broker, the authority to act in a deal comes from the client.
Trader takes ownership of the goods at one point in time. Broker does not and ownership is transferred straightaway to his client.
Trader pays himself with trading profits. Broker is paid by his client for the service provided.
Trader does not share the same responsibilities with his counterparts in trade, as each has his own responsibilities. On the other hand, a client shares the same responsibilities with his broker, in the deal committed by the broker on behalf of his client, because of the agent-principal relationship.
if soh's transplant was successful, what about the doctors who performed the transplant? are they guilty too? they too would know that the operation was illegally arranged. if the sg system doesn't jail the doctors, it's a fecking sham of a system.
