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Taiwan's Major Airlines' Pilots going on Strike! $$$ Salary $$$ too low, can not Tahan! No up pay no flying! Pse take boats!

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【機師罷工風暴】為何鬧到要罷工 除了薪水關鍵原因是這個

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由華航與長榮航空機師組成的桃園市機師職業工會正式取得罷工權,最快中秋節就會發動罷工,即使外界普遍認為機師是高薪族,工會仍認為台灣機師的工作條件並不理想,希望能提升機師的工作權,讓更多人願意加入及留下來,避免人才外流;但熟悉航空業的人士則認為,罷工訴求表面上是為飛安反過勞,實際是針對長榮「降低機師服務年限」,想避免跳槽賠償,尤其未來台灣即將有新航空公司成立,時機更為敏感。對業者來說,一旦讓步,恐怕就是人才大量流失的開始,將直接影響業者生存。
根據航空業內部人士透露,罷工遠因是全球鬧機師荒,想藉這次罷工談判,降低機師服務年限,避免跳槽後要負擔巨額賠償,近因則是台灣即將有另一家航空公司成立,國內航空公司都將受衝擊。
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桃園市機師職業工會舉行罷工投票,這是台灣航空史上第一次由機師取得罷工權。圖為桃園機場長榮航空機組員整隊準備出勤。(圖非當事人)
航空業內人士分析,尤其是長榮遭遇的威脅最嚴重,罷工訴求中「縮短服務年限」及「提供可申請符合其他航空認可的飛時證明」,都被解讀與跳槽有關,長榮也知道「退此一步即無死所」,絕不可能放任機師藉口罷工大出走,去投效未來的競爭者。
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華航內部人士更說,華航機師2015年罷工已取得加薪休假,2017年增加外站津貼,能加的都已經加了,工會暗地裡根本是衝著長榮而來,只是拉華航一起舉辦罷工投票增加威脅性與影響力而已。
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德國最大的航空公司漢莎航空2年前發生機師罷工,每年影響超過800個航班,機坪上停滿漢莎航空的飛機。(東方IC)

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2018年8月8日 上午7:20


不滿勞資協商破局,桃園市機師工會昨天取得合法罷工權,若無法與中華航空、長榮航空達成協商,將於本月廿日宣布罷工期程,甚至不排除在中秋連假發動罷工。但工會訴求與華航、長榮仍有不小歧見,交通部昨天表示,航空公司已準備應變計畫,但「希望不會用到」。
國內航空界面臨史上第一場機師罷工壓力,華航、長榮內部全面警戒,持續爭取跟桃園市機師職業工會協調,不希望發生罷工事件,否則恐影響到民眾及貨運,一旦航班大亂,經濟將受到衝擊。據了解,華航與長榮已兵分多路檢討協商,並且悄悄準備啟動簽轉機制,以降低旅客不便為優先。
目前華航、長榮航機師總人數,大約一千三百人,長榮航空加入工會的機師約五百多人,華航則有八百多人。雖然還有非工會的機師,但一旦罷工航班的調度,勢必會有很大困難,也會導致其他非工會機師的工作權益受影響,航空業者都不樂見。
華航機隊共八十五架、長榮航七十六架,如果真的罷工,而且天期拉長,台灣的停機空間恐怕不足,桃園機場恐將塞滿飛機,台灣天空將出現人員出不去、也進不來,造成航空公司、全民雙輸。
其實,為因應桃園機師職業工會近期抗爭行為,華航已向桃園地方法院提起「民事聲請定暫時狀態處分及緊急處置狀」,希望尋求合理法律行動,降低對公眾運輸的衝擊。不過,因為時間緊迫,加上法院安排開庭等,可能緩不濟急,因此,華航不放棄與機師工會協商的機會。
桃園市機師職業工會華航分會、長榮分會都提出多項訴求,內容包含提升機師薪資與福利、提升行政管理等,若是能達成共識,就能避免罷工。只是專家認為,這部分涉及到營運成本,航空公司勢必會仔細研議,且機師調高薪資福利後,將涉及空服、地勤是否須一併調整,恐增加全公司成本負擔。
航空界人士分析,雙方若可各退一步,例如機師不堅持全面調高,而是隨著物價水準波動、逐年調整,在這種情況下,談判協商才較可能完成。
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工商時報【黃惠聆╱台北報導】
航空機師也爭合法罷工,保險業者表示,一般罷工都列入不保事項,不少產險旅行不便險均不賠因罷工所造成的航班延誤,不過,也有產險有條件理賠。
桃園市機師職業工會從上月16日起發動罷工投票,在昨(7)日經過機師工會高投票率之後取得合法罷工權,如果勞資雙方仍無法達成共識,機師工會強調不排除中秋連假發動罷工。產險業者表示,針對罷工所造成之行程延誤損失,產險業之旅遊不便商品大部分皆列為除外不保事項,建議民眾留意相關條款內容。
國泰產險說,針對罷工造成的班機延誤,仍符合該公司的理賠條件,原則上有理賠,但在宣布罷工後才來投保則屬於班機延誤不保事項,無法理賠。
所謂「宣布罷工」是指機師公會正式宣布才算,如果擔心機師工會和航空公司無法達成共識而突然宣布罷工,即可以先行向產險公司投保旅行不便險將此一不確定性轉嫁給保險公司。
除了國泰產險明確表示,只要在罷工宣布前投保有理賠班機延誤事項外,多數產險公司都將罷工列入「不保事項」。因此,針對機師、空姐罷工造成班機延誤是否有理賠,產險公司表示,投保前還是得細看各保單內容。
富邦產險即表示,因「罷工、暴動、民眾騷擾」造成的「行程延誤」持續時間較無法預知,且影響層面較廣大,保險公司所承受之風險較難估算,故旅遊不便險中「行程延誤」的不保事項多數都包含了「罷工、暴動、民眾騷擾」。但若是因「罷工、暴動、民眾騷擾」而造成「行李延誤」或「行李毀損或丟失」,只要取得航空公司或機場開立的相關證明,損失都有機會獲賠。
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[Machine strike storm] Why do you have to strike? The key reason for salary is this
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August 8, 2018, 4:59 am


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The Taoyuan City Mariner Professional Trade Union, composed of China Airlines and EVA Air Jets, officially obtained the right to strike. The fastest Mid-Autumn Festival will start a strike. Even if the outside world generally believes that the pilot is a high-paying family, the union still believes that the working conditions of the Taiwanese pilot are not ideal. I hope that I can improve the working rights of the pilots, so that more people are willing to join and stay, and avoid brain drain; but those who are familiar with the aviation industry believe that the strike appeal is superficially for Fei'an, actually for Evergreen. Reduce the service life of the pilots, and want to avoid compensation for job-hopping. Especially in the future, Taiwan will have a new airline to be established, and the timing is more sensitive. For the industry, once the concession is over, it is probably the beginning of a large loss of talent, which will directly affect the survival of the industry.

According to insiders of the aviation industry, the strike is far from the global shortage of fighters. I want to use this strike negotiation to reduce the service life of the pilots and avoid huge compensation after the job change. The near reason is that another airline will be established in Taiwan. Airlines will be affected.
The Taoyuan City Vocational Union of the pilots held a strike vote. This is the first time in the history of Taiwanese aviation that the pilot has obtained the right to strike. The picture shows the crew of the EVA Air crew at Taoyuan Airport ready to attend the flight. (Figure is not a party)
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The Taoyuan City Vocational Union of the pilots held a strike vote. This is the first time in the history of Taiwanese aviation that the pilot has obtained the right to strike. The picture shows the crew of the EVA Air crew at Taoyuan Airport ready to attend the flight. (Figure is not a party)

Airline industry analysts, especially Evergreen, have the most serious threats. The "short service life" and "providing proof of flight time that can be applied for other aviation approvals" in the strike appeal are all related to job hopping. Evergreen also knows to "return this." There is no death in one step. It is impossible to let the pilots take the excuse to strike away and go to the future competitors.

Chen Xianglin, the executive director and former chairman of the pilot division, is also a Chinese aviation pilot. He stressed that the company is not allowed to make a decision on the dispute negotiation process.
Li Xinyan, chairman of the Taoyuan City Aircraft Division, is also a Changrong pilot. He stressed that the union does not rule out the Mid-Autumn Festival strike, but there will be a notice period.

Insiders of China Airlines also said that the Chinese aviation pilots had taken a paid vacation in 2015, and the increase in the external station allowance in 2017 has been added. The trade union secretly came to Evergreen, but Lahua Airlines held a strike vote together. Increase threat and influence.
Lufthansa, Germany's largest airline, had a striker two years ago, affecting more than 800 flights a year, and the plane was filled with Lufthansa aircraft. (Oriental IC)
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Lufthansa, Germany's largest airline, had a striker two years ago, affecting more than 800 flights a year, and the plane was filled with Lufthansa aircraft. (Oriental IC)


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The pilot of the Mid-Autumn Festival has a fake strike? China Airlines and Evergreen prepare for war
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August 8, 2018, 7:20 am


Dissatisfied with the labor-management negotiation, the Taoyuan City Aircraft Division had obtained the legal strike right yesterday. If it is unable to reach an agreement with China Airlines and EVA Air, it will announce the strike schedule on the next day of this month, and it will not even rule out a strike in the Mid-Autumn Festival. However, the trade union appeals are still not different from China Airlines and Evergreen. The Ministry of Communications said yesterday that the airlines are preparing for the contingency plan, but "hope not to use it."

The domestic aviation industry is facing the pressure of the first pilot strike in history. China Airlines and Evergreen have comprehensive internal warnings and continue to strive to coordinate with the Taoyuan City Vocational Union. They do not want to strike, otherwise they will affect the people and freight. The economy will be affected. It is understood that China Airlines and Evergreen have been reviewed and negotiated in multiple ways, and are quietly preparing to start the sign-off mechanism to reduce passenger inconvenience.

At present, the total number of China Airlines and Evergreen pilots is about 1,300. EVA Air joins the trade union with more than 500 pilots and China Airlines has more than 800. Although there are non-union pilots, once the dispatch of the strike flights is bound to be very difficult, it will also affect the work rights of other non-union pilots, and the aviation industry is not happy.

There are a total of 85 Chinese aviation fleets and 76 EVA flights. If the strike really takes place and the weather is lengthened, Taiwan’s downtime may not be enough. Taoyuan Airport will be full of planes, and there will be people in Taiwan’s sky. And can't get in, causing airlines and the whole people to lose.

In fact, in response to the recent protests by Taoyuan pilot professional trade unions, China Airlines has filed a "civil voice request for temporary state disposition and emergency disposal" in the Taoyuan District Court, hoping to seek reasonable legal action to reduce the impact on public transportation. However, because of the tight time and the court arrangement, it may not be anxious. Therefore, China Airlines does not give up the opportunity to negotiate with the pilot union.

The Taoyuan Branch of the Taoyuan City Vocational Union and the Changrong Branch have put forward a number of appeals, including raising the salary and benefits of the pilots, improving the administrative management, etc. If the consensus can be reached, the strike can be avoided. Only experts believe that this part involves operating costs. The airlines are bound to study carefully. After the pilots raise their salary and benefits, they will need to adjust whether the air service and ground handling must be adjusted together, which may increase the cost burden of the whole company.

According to the analysis of the aviation industry, if the two sides can take a step back, for example, the pilot does not insist on a comprehensive increase, but as the price level fluctuates and adjusts year by year, in this case, negotiation and negotiation are more likely to be completed.

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Aviation pilots also rushed to strike, the insurance industry said that the general strikes are included in the non-guaranteed matters, and many insurable travel insurance does not compensate for the flight delay caused by the strike. However, there are also conditional claims for property insurance.

The Taoyuan City Vocational Union of the pilots started a strike vote on the 16th of last month. After the high voter turnout rate of the pilot division yesterday (7), the legal strike right was obtained. If the employers and employees still cannot reach a consensus, the pilot union stressed that the Mid-Autumn Festival is not ruled out. Even a fake strike. Property and casualty traders said that most of the inconveniences in the property and casualty insurance industry were listed as exclusion and non-guarantee for the delay in travel caused by the strike. It is recommended that the public pay attention to the relevant provisions.

Cathay Property Insurance said that the flight delay caused by the strike is still in line with the company's claims conditions. In principle, there are claims, but it is a matter of delay and failure to pay for insurance after the announcement of the strike.

The so-called "declaration of strikes" refers to the official announcement of the Association of Mechanics. If you are worried that the pilot union and the airlines cannot reach a consensus and suddenly declare a strike, you can first pass the insurance to the property insurance company and pass the uncertainty to the uncertainty. Insurance company.

In addition to Cathay's property insurance, it is clear that as long as the insurance flights are delayed before the strike is announced, most property insurance companies will include strikes as "non-guaranteed matters." Therefore, for the delay caused by the flight of the pilot and the flight attendant, there is a claim for compensation. The property insurance company said that it is necessary to look at the contents of each policy before applying for insurance.

Fubon Property Insurance said that the duration of the "trip delay" caused by "strikes, riots, and public harassment" is unpredictable, and the impact level is relatively large. The risks borne by insurance companies are difficult to estimate, so travel inconvenience Most of the unsuccessful items of the “trip delay” include “strikes, riots, and public harassment”. However, if "baggage is delayed" or "baggage is damaged or lost" due to "strike, riot, and public harassment", as long as the relevant certificate issued by the airline or airport is obtained, the loss will have a chance to be compensated.

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