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Student: Er..I'm from China! Only Interested in PRC Affairs Hor!

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Much to learn from the Chinese

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Chinese nationals in Singapore raising their flags at a Singapore-China football match last year. In Singapore-China networking, recent arrivals from China are taking the lead. -- TNP FILE PHOTO

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A CONFIDENT-LOOKING teenager strode up to the microphone at a recent forum in Singapore and asked if China's leaders had what it took to push for even greater reforms than what the legendary Deng Xiaoping accomplished.
Noting that the late paramount leader had the support of the military when he pushed through economic reforms, the Dunman High student wondered aloud how far President Hu Jintao and his likely successor Xi Jinping would be able to take reforms without a comparable military background.
Would China's economic development falter, causing instability or even the collapse of the Chinese Communist Party, asked the student.
The occasion was the first in the China Insight forum series organised by Singapore-based networking group Business China. The guest speaker was Hong Kong Phoenix TV commentator and veteran journalist Yang Jinlin.
The student's question earned him praise from Dr Yang.
'I'm very impressed that Singaporean students are of such high calibre. There's certainly great hope for Singapore!' declared Dr Yang.
The teenager replied: 'Er, sorry, but I'm from China.'
The audience roared with laughter.
The student was not the only Chinese person who spoke up. Out of eight questions from the floor, six others came from his countrymen.
It was a sober reminder that in Singapore-China networking, it is the recent arrivals from China who are taking the lead.
The forum had drawn some 500 people, mainly Business China members, working partners and university and Special Assistance Plan school students.
Many were Chinese exchange students. They were concerned about how China could win over the hearts of the Taiwanese and the world. In short, they wanted to know how China could promote its culture globally.
Resourceful young Chinese people studying or working in Singapore have been quick to link up with their countrymen and to stay abreast of new developments back home.
In a sign of the active participation of the Chinese in local networks, the April 4 inaugural forum was supported by the Xiamen University Alumni. (Dr Yang holds a doctorate in history from the university.)
Previous waves of immigrants, dating back to the 1850s, might have joined clan associations. But many of the recent arrivals from China, including students, are not from southern China. They do not speak the southern dialects of Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese or Hainanese.
They come from all over China, including mega-cities such as Beijing and Shanghai, and north-eastern provinces like Heilongjiang and the central provinces like Hunan.
Many of the newly arrived Chinese are better educated than previous generations of assimilated ethnic Chinese. They are keen to join broad-based associations organised by bilingual new migrants, like the Hua Yuan Association, reported Professor Liu Hong, formerly of the Chinese Studies department at National University of Singapore, in his book New Migrants And The Revival Of Overseas Chinese Nationalism.
The Hua Yuan Association as well as the Tian Fu Club and Tianjin Club are some of the groups formed by mainland Chinese in Singapore. The three groups have more than 4,000 members between them, many of whom are university graduates.
But the new generation of Chinese expatriates and immigrants is also keen to network through local organisations like the Singapore Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry (SCCCI) - which in fact started as a self-help group in 1906 to serve new Chinese immigrants.
To help the new arrivals integrate into society, the SCCCI set up its Immigrants Liaison Group in 2007 and it drew entrepreneurs and professionals into the fold.
Business China - a brainchild of Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew - was also set up by the SCCCI, in November 2007.
It aims to help those who are interested in sharpening their bilingual and bicultural edge to engage China. The new forum series it is organising will invite academics and industry experts from China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore to offer their views on issues that will have an impact on China and the world.
Business China's chief executive officer Josephine Teo, who is an MP for Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC, has said special attention would be given to helping younger Singaporeans know China better.
Judging from the response at the forum, Chinese nationals are also benefiting.
Only one question at the forum was posed by a Singaporean. It came after the forum's moderator, Ms Chun Guek Lay, specifically invited Singaporeans to speak up.
The Singaporean, who identified himself as an alumnus of Dunman High, greeted Dr Yang in Hokkien, and then asked, in Mandarin, about conflicts between old and new forces in China as it emerges as a strong power.
But it was the Chinese who had led the way in asking the questions. Singaporeans have much to learn from them - even in their own country.
After the session ended, the Dunman High student who had asked the question about Deng Xiaoping approached his teacher - also a Chinese national - who evaluated his performance.
'I think you should have got straight to the point when asking questions, instead of providing so much context,' the teacher said. 'But hey, well done,' she added, beaming.
When even a question is a teachable moment, you know the Chinese here mean business

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Without all these PRC talent, s'pore students would become weak without competition

We should be honoured to have them here to lift our standards

Otherwise our students only know how to listen to ipod and complain

Please import 1.5 million PRCs to dilute Sinkiness!
 
Did this outstanding student mention that he is way overaged than his peers? Anyway, China would definitely make great strides in progress if leeches like him stay put.

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Much to learn from the Chinese

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Noting that the late paramount leader had the support of the military when he pushed through economic reforms, the Dunman High student wondered aloud how far President Hu Jintao and his likely successor Xi Jinping would be able to take reforms without a comparable military background.
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I have come across many naturalised PRCs here in my work place. I can say with absolute certainty that most of them are just taking us for a ride, with compliment from the pap.

There is not a shred of evidence they love this country. There is not a shred of pride even to call themselves Singaporeans.
 
we need prcs immigrants but Only those genuine talent ones...those that are useful...... not thrashes
 
The more PRC the better - good for our economy and good for our well being

Life has never been the same after I embraced PRCs

thank you PRCs I welcome all of you, the more the merrier
 
yup, bring in more PRC students, so there would be more freelance/moonlighters to keep the vice industry vibrant with more variation to choose from.
 
thank you PRCs I welcome all of you, the more the merrier

I find it strange that despite your ardent admiration of the PRCs, you are posting not in Chinese, their main language of communication, but in English, a language most symbolic of the decadent West despised by you. Are you even capable of typing a proper post in Chinese?
 
I find it strange that despite your ardent admiration of the PRCs, you are posting not in Chinese, their main language of communication, but in English, a language most symbolic of the decadent West despised by you. Are you even capable of typing a proper post in Chinese?

你妈的臭屄,有共产党才有新中国。如没有中国学生新加坡就没有今天。新加坡学生算什么?华文讲的乱七八糟的,英文老用,lah,leh,loh. 要谈话也没坦说出口。你还是乖乖的回家去肏你老妈!

Is that enough? I'm sure all the PRCs would start invading SBF now. :D:D
 
要谈话也没坦说出口。
Is that enough? I'm sure all the PRCs would start invading SBF now. :D:D

胆 (dan3) not 坦 (tan3).

I would love to debate with PRCs but my experience with many of them is that they will just spout their views aggressively and not reply to your points with logic. They tend to like to paint China in glorious colours only. When you ask about certain problems in China, they get extremely defensive and will tell you what you say is untrue but they can't provide any plausible arguments to prove it. Maybe they consider me a quitter, just like how PAP has branded many overseas Singaporeans, who is not qualified to comment on China or maybe I am just not mixing with the right PRC crowd.
 
胆 (dan3) not 坦 (tan3).

I would love to debate with PRCs but my experience with many of them is that they will just spout their views aggressively and not reply to your points with logic. They tend to like to paint China in glorious colours only. When you ask about certain problems in China, they get extremely defensive and will tell you what you say is untrue but they can't provide any plausible arguments to prove it. Maybe they consider me a quitter, just like how PAP has branded many overseas Singaporeans or maybe I am just not mixing with the right PRC crowd.

Thanks for the correction bro. Was just hacking away on the pinyin just now. Anyway, which country did you quit to? I suppose it depends which "generation" of PRC you met. I have heaps of PRC friends in ozzieland. Even they said that the post 90 and recent PRCs migrants are atrocious. Then again they have been here since the age of 10-12, so I suppose they have more or less been assimilated to the culture here. They are aware of things that are happening in china, but they are also wary of the propaganda that are on CCTV.
 
Anyway, which country did you quit to?

My ancestors quitted to Little Red Dot which was fortunate. However, it is unfortunate that it seems Singapore is becoming more like PRC by the day.
 
It is quite true that those from Beijing, Shanghai and Liaoning/Dahlian are culturally more attuned, and historically more informed and widely read than those say from Shenzhen. Based on personal encounters.
 
The difference is that the PRC Chinese are proud of their National Identity and defend it aggressively. But for Singaporeans, i cannot say the same. this is where our govt failed. Where is our sense of National Identity.
 
胆 (dan3) not 坦 (tan3).

I would love to debate with PRCs but my experience with many of them is that they will just spout their views aggressively and not reply to your points with logic. They tend to like to paint China in glorious colours only. When you ask about certain problems in China, they get extremely defensive and will tell you what you say is untrue but they can't provide any plausible arguments to prove it. Maybe they consider me a quitter, just like how PAP has branded many overseas Singaporeans, who is not qualified to comment on China or maybe I am just not mixing with the right PRC crowd.

Well mentioned. The Chinese are alike with the Japanese in this respect. They are incapable of objective, and even logical reasoning as long as a proposition is put forth against their country despite its truism.
 
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