Stop whining, be grateful no one died!

[RonRon]

By Tan Teck Wei
The New Paper
Friday, Dec 23, 2011
MRT Breakdown

I REFER to "MRT breakdowns: Readers air their unhappiness" (The New Paper, yesterday).

All these complaints and calls for SMRT's top management to resign are totally uncalled for.

Who causes all the problems in the first place? It is the people who complain and whine.

If not for their demands for more train services, more speed and who knows what else, we may not have had such incidents.

By giving in to these demands, SMRT's maintenance work must have been affected. Do you think it is easy to maintain the rails and cables throughout Singapore?

Please, you complainers should be the ones waking up, not SMRT.

You should be thanking SMRT for its 24 years of service that you have enjoyed.

And above all, you should be thankful that this was just a power cut-off. It was not anything like the train disasters that have happened in China and other countries, which involve loss of life.

You should realise that a lot of people are still alive because of SMRT's safety measures, which you lot seem to consider useless.

You should be ashamed of yourselves for making such a fuss over this incident.

We are making a joke of ourselves in all the countries where there have been far worse rail incidents.

There was also the article "No Luck" (The New Paper, Dec 19).

Surely Mr Tong, an insurance agent, could have explained to his potential clients that he was late because of the MRT breakdown?
This article was first published in The New Paper.

 

[jacobsgoh]

how come theres no report of [accidental or otherwise] molest when the lights went out ?

 

[chobolan]

Give Teck Wei a bone "Woof"!

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[freedalas]

Mr Tan Teck Wei sounds exactly like our forum host. Did he write this on behalf of Mr Leongsam

 

[Seee3]

What bothered me most in this whole episode is that out of so many people being trapped in the trains, only 1 person has the guts and mind to break the glass window for the badly needed fresh air. The rest must be either hoping for instruction or permission to break the glass or believing that they are in safe hands.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

The first time I read this, I felt it was flame bait.

 

[po2wq]

... You should be ashamed of yourselves for making such a fuss over this incident ...

ya, man! ...

y ze f**k dat loon burger set up wat committee wat inquiry? ... wat ze stoopig fuss? ... dat loon burger oni noe how 2 waste tax payers moni ... he shud dissolf dat committee immediately! ...

 

[ThugSin]

TUCK YEW! :oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

 

[zeddy]

Tan Teck Wei, well done for defending and praising the SMRT... No worries, they will post to your letter box, a special edition of SMRT Ez Link card with a stored value of $100 inside..This is to thank you for your kind words to the press.. PCB Por Lumpar.. :oIo:

 

[The Philistine]

Tan Teck Wei, well done for defending and praising the SMRT... No worries, they will post to your letter box, a special edition of SMRT Ez Link card with a stored value of $100 inside..This is to thank you for your kind words to the press.. PCB Por Lumpar.. :oIo:

This ball-licking dog defends asSMRT because being a dog, it is not allowed to use the MRT system and doesn't realize how shite the system has become.

Please remind AVA to cull this stupid animal. Its barking is injurious to public health.

 

[SibeiKing]

A responsible organization would ask the question: "What if someone had died?" and move ahead systematically.
But then world is over-populated anyways and life getting cheap. so who cares. just be happy no one died.

 

[myo539]

What bothered me most in this whole episode is that out of so many people being trapped in the trains, only 1 person has the guts and mind to break the glass window for the badly needed fresh air. The rest must be either hoping for instruction or permission to break the glass or believing that they are in safe hands.

This man was acting for his own selfish reason. He panicked. It appears that he smashed the glass because his wife or girlfriend was feeling giddy and complaining the stuffiness of the train - not out of bravery or consideration for the rest of the passengers. You want to give me a medal for that?

Actually he has committed one fundamental mistake in emergency situations. In In Place Protection (IPP) situation, the danger comes from outside such as terrorists detonating toxic gas bombs, a gas leakage (like Bhopal gas leak) or smoke from a fire. The sealed windows and doors help to prevent the toxic gases from permeating into the house or train - or in this case underground tunnel.

As he has no inkling of what is going on outside because of lack of public annoucements, he should be patient and like the rest of the passengers wait for official announcements. What if there was a fire in the tunnel? All the passengers would have perished because of his selfish act. He acted like a rat trapped in a sinking ship. If he does that in a sinking ship, the gush of water would have smashed him and the others like an avalanche. SMRT, caught off guard and in feeling extreme contrition for its lapse in service, is kind not to arrest him for vandalism or commiting a rash act.

This time he was lucky.

 

[ballsathome]

This man was acting for his own selfish reason. He panicked. It appears that he smashed the glass because his wife or girlfriend was feeling giddy and complaining the stuffiness of the train - not out of bravery or consideration for the rest of the passengers. You want to give me a medal for that?

This time he was lucky.

You stupid shameless bitch. Commuters were breathing recycled air for 4o mins. I wished your relatives were in that train.

 

[jacobsgoh]

This man was acting for his own selfish reason. He panicked. It appears that he smashed the glass because his wife or girlfriend was feeling giddy and complaining the stuffiness of the train -
SMRT, caught off guard and in feeling extreme contrition for its lapse in service, is kind not to arrest him for vandalism or commiting a rash act.

This time he was lucky.

I couldn't agree with U more, The guy should just wait for help from SMRT; afterall [if] no help forthcoming, very most die only ah.

 

[halsey02]

What bothered me most in this whole episode is that out of so many people being trapped in the trains, only 1 person has the guts and mind to break the glass window for the badly needed fresh air. The rest must be either hoping for instruction or permission to break the glass or believing that they are in safe hands.

What bothered me most is that this character & others out there like him, do not have have the faintest idea that our lives are in their hands everyday, we take the trains. This is a glaring case of bad maintance & nothing else, heads should have rolled by now, instead of that, ass covering is now in progress.

Who cares for th 24 years or service, where in one moment, many could have been killed by their incompetency. Looks like we are going see many of these 'ghost' writers praising the system.

 

[middaydog]

You stupid shameless bitch. Commuters were breathing recycled air for 4o mins. I wished your relatives were in that train.

you have a very kind words for the cunt, sir
if this were to be my reply I would add 'father' or 'mother' in the sentence somewhere

 

[rodent2005]

Singaporeans are thankful indeed that they are alive, inspite of SMRT's screw-ups and unpreparedness. Singaporeans are thankful to God but not to SMRT because SMRT is the one that creates the problem in the first place.

Obviously, the writer is naive and knows nothing about leading indicators. You don't wait until someone die before you concede that there is a problem. You address the problem before it gets out of hand. Any indications that the worst will happen if the status quo persists must prompt responsible people to take immediate remedial action. If you remain arrogant and do nothing after you have screwed up, and demand gratitude instead, then expect fire from everybody.

Senior management and BoD of SMRT are well paid to do a job; they do not work for free. SMRT must be equally thankful to commuters for giving them business all these years.

 

[StinkiePeasants]

I'm beri grateful no 1 died.

 

[Seee3]

Actually he has committed one fundamental mistake in emergency situations. In In Place Protection (IPP) situation, the danger comes from outside such as terrorists detonating toxic gas bombs, a gas leakage (like Bhopal gas leak) or smoke from a fire. The sealed windows and doors help to prevent the toxic gases from permeating into the house or train - or in this case underground tunnel.

Hey, thanks for highlighting my ignorance.

I didn’t know that the ventilation system of the mrt does not allow any external air to enter the cabins (i.e. 100% re-circulating of internal air), designed to provide in-place protection from any external toxic gas or fume.

Or maybe I am wrong because many more would have fainted because re-circulating the air for 40 minutes would have depleted the oxygen. Ah ha, the mrt trains must be equipped with chemical filters to clean and detox the external air before it is pumped it into the cabins. Wow! What an expensive system, no wonder the fare must keep on increasing. We are really in safe hands. Just sit tight and wait to be rescued. Once again thanks for the informative advice or advise??

 

[Fook Seng]

This man was acting for his own selfish reason. He panicked. It appears that he smashed the glass because his wife or girlfriend was feeling giddy and complaining the stuffiness of the train - not out of bravery or consideration for the rest of the passengers. You want to give me a medal for that?

Actually he has committed one fundamental mistake in emergency situations. In In Place Protection (IPP) situation, the danger comes from outside such as terrorists detonating toxic gas bombs, a gas leakage (like Bhopal gas leak) or smoke from a fire. The sealed windows and doors help to prevent the toxic gases from permeating into the house or train - or in this case underground tunnel.

As he has no inkling of what is going on outside because of lack of public annoucements, he should be patient and like the rest of the passengers wait for official announcements. What if there was a fire in the tunnel? All the passengers would have perished because of his selfish act. He acted like a rat trapped in a sinking ship. If he does that in a sinking ship, the gush of water would have smashed him and the others like an avalanche. SMRT, caught off guard and in feeling extreme contrition for its lapse in service, is kind not to arrest him for vandalism or commiting a rash act.

This time he was lucky.

The question is "Is the ventilation designed for over-crowded trains to be stalled for such a long time?" In my opinion, if there is no fresh oxygen, there is a definite survival period after which it is extremely dangerous for passengers to remain in that environment. The fact that two persons have to be sent to hospital, one who is unconscious, showed we were very lucky that there were no more serious casualties. The jury is still out, in the situation that the passengers were in with no terrorist action or the presence of toxic gases except natural ones found in the tunnel, the risk level of which SMRT found OK for passengers to walk 150 m through it, that the breaking of the window represents a clearcut rash act. What need to be included in the terms of reference of the BOI are 1) are the trains overloaded 2) is the ventilation sufficient under normal conditions and during stalled situations for the passenger load handled 3) how long can the ventilation safely support the passengers in the stalled coaches 4) have the operation staff been adequately briefed and their understanding tested to evacuate the passengers before the safe period has been reached. The above is not comprehensive and relates to only the ventilation issue.