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S'poreans VERY ANGRY Over New 100K More FTs

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....found this. Read all these comments. Read every word.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/3in1kopitiam/messages/?msg=36166.1
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All help to copy ALL the comments in this thread is very welcome. Thanks!



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Singaporean:
“Singaporeans are jobless and receiving a very low pay and yet more foreigners coming!!!!!! Stop this shit PAP!!! PAP really sucks!!!”
Disappointed:
“I’m really disappointed. Why govt keep importing foreigners? And yet, the govt department does not recognise degrees from foreign universities (except those top tier-ed uni). Locals from such university cant find jobs in the government department. Why?”
Sekaran Renjiah:
“The PM is intending to allow another exodus of 100,000 foerign workers into S’pore’s workforce as he says “the move was unavoidable as the labour market here is bursting at its seams”. But I don’t understand where tis ppl gets their facts fr. Is nos. & percentages gd enough to make such drastic decisions ?? The reality is, there are tons of us out there looking for jobs like mad dogs but to no avail. Every weekend I receive job opportunities in the civil service thru [email protected]. But whenever I apply they send me an email stating regret in not being able to employ me. But yet again the post ad is repeated every week. Why is tat so? Does tis reflects tat there are no takers & thus foreign talents need to be employed?? Or is it tat by bringing foreign talents the gov can profit more in terms of levy or low wages??? Pls look after ur citizens 1st !! We voted for u to represent us not to imprison us !!!!”
Sad:
“I am 40 plus I am not able to get a job. I have send many job applications and even went to Alexandra Hospital personal for a job interview as a Therapist Assistance still I am not given the job. Yet they say they need more staff for the hospital industry. More foreigns are given the Job in the hopital even doing pharmacy assist packing of medicine behind counter they want chinese speaking staff. Even I look for a job as a parttime packer I went to the recruit express in Jurong for an interview still no call from the agency. But went you look in the paper there is lot of vacancy why are they not employing the Indian and Malay.I have always voted for the government but this election I have to think twice. They say singaporean are fussy and always complaining.As if we have nothing better to do. These foreigner come to singapore to make money and retire back in their homeland. Yes they may have their PR
but the time to retire they have a business in their homeland because their currency value low. In singapore dollar 400 in philippines is a bank manager salary 19000 peos. Two month ago I went for an interview as an operator the pay was $1000.
Three singaporean and one philippino PR went for the interview the Production manager and supervior was a filipo and they employ the the philippino PR and the three singaporean was not given the job. Why was the job not given to the singaporean because we are not capable to do the job, not truth they only like to employ their own people the filipo. Not only they come here to work they break family. They strip the men until he has nothing but only his brief then he has no where to go only to the street or old folk home. Nowday, I see people sleeping in void deck.”
Kamum:
“Allowing foreigners in is to displace those Singaporeans who don’t support them.Simple formula for staying in power so that in the name of politics they can enrich themselves further.PAP members are shameless.
The President of the most powerful nation, in terms of politics, military and economic is only paid fraction of our ‘Minister of State’. Are we saying our junior ministers are much more capable than any world leaders? Simply shameful and disgusting. If these ministers are allowed to run a company outside Singapore, I bet all of them will fail miserably. That is the reason we need more foreigners to work for Singapore and these elites could reap the benefit. Poor Singaporeans, strangers in their own land. Long live Gong Li.”

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July 16, 2010 at 10:56 am
an idiot economist called song seng won from cimb was quoted as saying in today’s new paper that the tight labor market will cause a plate of nasi lemak to go up tp $10 a plate.
how the fk did a fool like that become an economist? even i as a layperson know that wages form about 35% of a company’s operating expenses. in other words, for my nasi lemak to have a threefold increase to $10, real wages need to increase by a whopping NINE (9) times! tio bo?
its not just about wages, other things matter too. cost of goods sold, rental, utilities. they are all unnaturally high. fking scare tactics propagated by msm. pissing me off big time.





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<cite class="fn">Jobless elderly:</cite>
July 16, 2010 at 11:01 am
I am a native Singaporean. I born here, grow up here, schooling here, live here and die here where I have no other place to go.
I studied hard here and went for the 4-years of my job training. Now, I am already jobless in the last 9-years. I try many times to apply a job in related to my training, but was no avail. Now, I realise that the foreign talents have already landed here during the last 9-years and had displaced me. Again, my health is not so good as before. How am I going to do now as my health is not so good? Work or no work, every month, I have to pay property tax, water and electrical bills, gas bill, Town Council Service bill, food, etcs; Today, Because of inflation, everythings are so expensive.
To all true, blue Singaporeans, I think most of you have the same feeling like me.





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<cite class="fn">anonymous:</cite>
July 16, 2010 at 11:35 am
THE MATHS, THE ECONOMIC AND LOGIC SEEMS TO BE SUCH A HUGE DISCONNECT. Or is my mind on holiday this morning? Or is my confusion the giddy effects of my Russian vodka for breakfast?
LHL attributed the second qtr strong rebound mainly to the “success of the two integrated resorts” and a sharp increase in pharmaceutical output.
He added that “the two resorts, which opened early this year, “made a significant difference” this year and boosted tourism to Singapore.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/1069265/1/.html
One of the two resorts were opened VERY LATE into the second-quarter ending June 2010 – if it was opened before end June 2010. So how did that IMPACT strongly on Singapore 2nd Qtr GDP’s performance??
Which then follows the relevant thoughts if the tourism supporting that two resorts came in and rained money in billions of US Dollars from the sky in a few days in the casinos, <leo_highlight style="border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(255, 255, 150); background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% transparent; cursor: pointer; display: inline; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="leoHighlights_Underline_1" onclick="leoHighlightsHandleClick('leoHighlights_Underline_1')" onmouseover="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOver('leoHighlights_Underline_1')" onmouseout="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOut('leoHighlights_Underline_1')" leohighlights_keywords="entertainment" leohighlights_url_top="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsTop.jsp?keywords%3Dentertainment%26domain%3Dforums.delphiforums.com" leohighlights_url_bottom="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsBottom.jsp?keywords%3Dentertainment%26domain%3Dforums.delphiforums.com" leohighlights_underline="true">entertainment</leo_highlight> and also retail spending ending June 2010????.
THE LATEST OFFICIAL FIGURES CAME OUT WAS FOR MAY 2010. That being so, there is no official statistics for June retail sales as of today. So how did LHL came to the conclusion that “tourism” influx of the two resorts were big factors behind that exceptional GDP Growth for the 2nd quarter of 2010???
I am COMPLETELY mystified.
Even more puzzling is that the May retail sales ACTUALLY FELL IN MAY compared to April 2010 by 0.9%.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/1069508/1/.html
So if retail sales FALLEN after the two resorts opened, how did the two resorts had allegedly benefited and lifted up 2nd Qtr GDP statistics???? MORE TOPURISM LESS RETAIL SALES FOR SINGAPORE ???Poor me, I am CONFUSED AGAIN.
But then LHL wants to bring in 100,000 additional foreigner into Singapore workforce. This one again is also mind-boggling to me.
We achieved an estimated 19.3% growth in the 2nd Qtr of 2010, right??? AND THIS WAS ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL 100,000 FOREIGN LABOUR.
Why do we SUDDENLY need 100,000 more foreigners when we have achieved the same “outstanding” performance without them? And then a bit more hilarious is LHL’s own caution that 2010 is an exceptional year (NOT TO BE REPEATED) AND THAT the forecast of double digit growth for 2010 actually assumes a much lower second half growth for Singapore. On top of that LHL asserts that “sustain growth, we don’t mean 9, 10 percent or 11 percent in future years but 3, 4, 5 percent steadily for another 10 years.”
In other words, we proved we didn’t need 100,000 more foreigners to grow the economy at such a fast pace in first half 2010, we will logically need LESSER number of foreigner in the 2nd half (when the economy will slow down) and even LESSER STILL AFTER THAT IN 2010, WHEN WE SETTLE TO 3% TO 6% OF SUSTAINABLE GROWTH.
My question is why we need to import “SURPLUS 100,000 additonal FOREIGN WORKERS” – that WE DEFIFINTELY DON’T NEED??? Is it IMMIGRATION policy making on the run of panic reaction, and no economic logic or thinking?
Or am I drunk with Russian vodka this morning for breakfast??? Or is that a camouflage to bring in more foreigners in disguise? Someone be kind enough to clear my muddled-headed thinking here?
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July 16, 2010 at 12:54 pm
i am a true blue singaporean boy who has served his NS. my family have been here for 4 generations.
the PAP’s FT policy is not being very helpful to the ordinary working man on the street as our wages are being depressed.
WE ARE BEING DISCRIMINATED AND MARGINALISED in favor of FTs who have never paid his dues on the military fields of SAFTI/Tekong – and i am of chinese background.
I have been displaced in favour of chinamen/indiamen/banglaman/Filo man/ etc.
My chinese language proficiency is useless in the face of cheapo cheena /SUB continent FTs.
Being marginalised by people of your skin colour is one of the greatest Singaporean humiliations that we have to endure.





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<cite class="fn">New Era:</cite>
July 16, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Do Singaporeans need any more proof that they just don’t care about our welfare and well-being?
This coming elections is the time for change.
The next time will be too late.





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<cite class="fn">KNN2:</cite>
July 16, 2010 at 1:18 pm
The PAPpies words, actions and policies are basically legalised corruption, legalised extortion and in the past 10 years have also become legalised treason and legalised sedition against Singaporeans. What they are doing to true-blue Singaporeans and their children is worse than what Mas Selamat can ever do.
Anybody disagree?





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July 16, 2010 at 1:44 pm
LISTEN! LISTEN! LISTEN NATIVE SINGAPOREANS AND PLEASE LISTEN GOOD!
It is absolutely no point in letting out steam. Blaming the PAP is definitely no use. Look at the crux of the problem. How did the current plight of native Singaporeans evolved? Who caused this situation? Who is the guilty party? To these questions, the answer is we, we the native Singaporeans. We allowed the PAP to hoodwink us that their one-party rule is the way to go if we want to live happily and peacefully.
The current one-party rule must not stand at all. It must be demolished at all costs for whatever may happen after that; be it good, bad or worst. We the natives have dugged our own graves by allowing the PAP to govern us with absolute power with no any kind of checks or balances.
It is now or never. We must stop PAP in its track. There is definitely no other alternative. Come the next GE, vote PAP out to get rid of the ruling family(you know who). Only then we will see light at the end of the tunnel. Change must be done in the next GE. Don’t wait any more. Don’t take anymore chances with the PAP. Vote wisely. Vote out this regime.
We must come together to save ourselves and our country. Stop Whining! Stop Complaining! Stop Grumbling! Stop Blaming the PAP! Stop anything that you are doing that is not going to save us or our country. Wake Up! Take on the responsibility to put things right in our country. Don’t expect PAP to change for good.
We cannot expect the world to help us. In fact there is nobody out there in the entire world who would help us. The US is not going to help us to effect a regime change like it did in Iraq.
VOTE PAP OUT IN THE NEXT GE!
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Actually we should not make a big fuss out of this.

The lesser noise we make, the more the PAP will bungle with their FT policy. If everyone tries to bring down this policy, we stand to suffer in the long term when PAP becomes more popular for "caring for Sinkies by not bringing in 100k FTs".

In the end, they will lose seats in the Parliament when elections come. So keep a low profile and start creating an uproar ONLY after the elections are closer.
 
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</td></tr> <tr><td class="msgtxt">The PAP govt is setting up a time bomb for themselves by 'injecting' foreigners into the little red dot to boost GDP growth this way. Setting up a bubble in the BOOM-BUST economic cycle.

The PAP's PUSH factors have already caused irreparable damage in the brain drain due to emigration of young native S'poreans 'pissed off' by various ill conceived govt policies.

Then the flood gates for 3rd rate foreigners opened as fertility rates dropped and withrawals from CPF started from S'poreans who have emigrated and renounced citizenship.

When the BUST cycle occurs, foreigners will leave en masse. The price crash of overinflated HDB flats for which many CPF funds of S'poreans have been committed may cause many to jump from their HDB flats or onto MRT tracks when NEGATIVE EQUITY wipes out their CPF and the value of the leased flats.

The BIGGER the bubble, the louder the pop and the force of the pop would be considerable just like a very large ripple (tsunami) caused by throwing a large stone in a pond as opposed to a little pebble causing smaller ripples.
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</td></tr> <tr><td class="msgtxt">kojakbt_89 <"an idiot economist called song seng won from cimb was quoted as saying in today’s new paper that the tight labor market will cause a plate of nasi lemak to go up tp $10 a plate.">
That idiot economist should NOT go around CONNING Singaporeans.

A country like NZ that has MINIMUM WAGE laws, has a higher GST than S'pore, does not rely on foreign labour for the economy and yet does not even charge $10 a plate for Nasi Lemak. I still can get all the local Singapore food like Char Siew, Roast Pork, Soya Sauce chicken Rice, Hor Fun etc for around $8 that can feed 2 persons.

The REAL CULPRIT should S'pore's NASI LEMAK rise to $10 would be the perpetually sky rocketting RENTALS, levies, Utility Bills charged by S'pore LANDLORDS on the small time hawker.

If the hawker who has to slave long hours but still cannot survive due to the high rentals, he will have to close shop and another hawker will bid for that stall, no doubt with an increase in the lease. Or the entire food centre might be 'upgraded' with another round of rental price hikes.
I am sure everyone knows who that LANDLORD IS who is laughing all the way to the bank at the expense of the hawker and the S'pore worker who has to buy his plate of economical rice if not Nasi Lemak with less and less ingredients but costing more $$ even with foreigners currently cleaning and clearing the tables.
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July 16, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Lamenting about the dilemma that concerns foreign workers is akin to throwing eggs against stones hoping that the rocks will crack. Singaporeans really need to do some serious soul searching and look for the real cause of this avalanche of massive problems of rising prices, unemployment and diminishing opportunities. When and how did this deadly ‘disease’ start? It started in the nineties. Demand for so called foreign banking experts to fortify the financial system of Singapore. One higher paid group of workers in turn generate the services of more lower skilled workers from Asian regions to satiate their needs in many other areas. Was this avoidable? Not really. Familiar with derived demand? That’s when supply for a need is introduced to sustain a segment of the economy. One example importing more maids to serve the highly paid exPATS. But what was missed?
This vicious circle of introducing more of their clans into Singapore continued till costs in many sectors become increasingly suppressed for the benefit of the entrepreneurs. Who wouldn’t want fast profits at the time when new products and services were flooding all markets in the world including Singapore? Businesses had to move real fast in the heady days of profiteering and expansion in order to stay afloat on the waves of globalisation which continue to claim all sorts of economic casualties in many unimaginable areas. Many successful businesses we learnt thrived in the nineties and beyond at the expense of many proper principles of conducting commerce with a LONG TERM outlook. We know the names of those who failed. Where is the connection? The lessons from collapse of financial systems in US and Europe were also repeated signals but never seriously taken as reminders of the need to be conservative. That in itself requires another frame of discussion though very closely connected to some of the demand problems in all Asian nations today. And consumers unfortunately continue to fuel this demand for many ‘unnecessary’ goods and services which seek to retain the need for foreign workers. Whilst demand must be present to drive economies, there is demand for necessaries and demand for the unnecessary. One need not be a mint foreign uni graduate to put two and two together. See the answer? Perfection in the conduct of businesses with the twin goals of profits and nurturing societal welfare at the same time. That is where the <leo_highlight style="border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(255, 255, 150); background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-position: 0% 50%; -moz-background-size: auto auto; cursor: pointer; display: inline; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="leoHighlights_Underline_2" onclick="leoHighlightsHandleClick('leoHighlights_Underline_2')" onmouseover="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOver('leoHighlights_Underline_2')" onmouseout="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOut('leoHighlights_Underline_2')" leohighlights_keywords="target" leohighlights_url_top="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsTop.jsp?keywords%3Dtarget%26domain%3Dforums.delphiforums.com" leohighlights_url_bottom="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsBottom.jsp?keywords%3Dtarget%26domain%3Dforums.delphiforums.com" leohighlights_underline="true">target</leo_highlight> should be. Then again when corporate profits swell, lessons will quickly be forgotten. And the cycle commences again.
From the nineties till today, citizens of other nations besides traditional maid supplying ones got a whiff of the prosperous pastures at your doorsteps and the vicious spiral of more entries continued right under the nose of ordinary ‘true blue’ lower to middle income Singaporeans. Like the dam that burst at several places, the ‘flood’ of foreign workers needs now to be managed with the focus on regulating the ‘flow’ into necessary areas. There are many solutions to the Singaporean problem and most are tied to other nations. One way is to redeploy local unemployed Singaporeans with qualifications into the financial systems AT ACCEPTABLE AND REASONABLE rates by replacing deadwood foreign experts who are paid horrendously gluttonous salaries. Another is to extend Singaporean expertise offshore in nearby regions and generate more technical industries rapidly for both Singaporeans and foreign natives which will encourage them to stay there. Not impossible and very compromising given the ’seriousness’ of the dilemma? Create your opportunities and divert your resources.
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Me and my cabinet are really caught off guard by the sudden influx of 100K more FTs into sinkieland very soon.
Try as hard as we may, we cannot prevent this influx as we are an open economy.
If we keep our doors shut, the waters will gush in when the door finally gives way, causing more damage to this land.
Instead we will carefully regulate the inflow so that our land will not be overflooded with water suddenly, just like our orchard road.
If we don't let these fresh water in, very soon we have to only rely on shit water which is very dangerous to our health.:D
 
Hi sinkees,how are u all ? Don't always complain ,take action.A simple soultion--Vote Out The MIW in the Netx General Election !!!!
YES ! THE MIW WILL ONLY LISTEN TO U DURING THE GENERAL ELECTION,THEY MAY EVEN BEG AND KNEEL DOWN TO KISS YOUR TOES TO WIN YOUR VOTES.
 
russell on July 17, 2010 at 10:16 am

I am really sick of this govt and for what they stand for. This bloody island is 647sq km only and yet they want to keep on importing foreigners. Singapore is one of the most densely populated countries in the world. What is the govt trying to do….. they say one thing one thing one minute and behave just the opposite next minute. always going back on their promises.
When i take a train or a bus, when i turn left or right, all i see are foreigners…… pls wake up…. foreigners do not have a sense of belonging to this country and with them they bring their culture and behaviours which may not be suitable for this country. I mean no disrecpect but China ppl are the worst of the lot. They speak loudly, arrogantly and behave like we owe them to be here. Can you imagine what this country is going to be like in 10 to 20 years time…. we will have a population of 8 million and buses, trains, shopping malls, will be packed like sardines…. what kind of quality of life is this????
 
Legion on July 15, 2010 at 1:13 pm
So this is what you get when you voted for PAP in 2006?
They bring in more foreigners to compete with your rice bowl.
I bet those who voted for PAP never expected this to happen. Still want to vote for them, and them destroy your future??
My vote counts: 10 reasons why I cannot vote for the PAP in the next election. By yaevlejunce
That so many Singaporeans behave like sheep and recite the prescribed mantra all the time about our government (namely, that we owe it all to them) really only reveals the plight of our people. Not only are Singaporeans amongst the lowest earners in the developed world in monetary terms, they are also almost definitely the poorest in the faculty to think for themselves, as a result of the education system.
Now that I am 21 and of age to vote, I am unable to vote for the PAP in the coming election because there is such an urgent need to send across a strong signal through their very thick skulls that there is a problem in the way it’s running this country. I am not a member of the Opposition, and I do not want the Opposition to take over this country, but because there will always be too many sheep in Singapore anyway, we need every vote FOR the Opposition, just to manage to produce a dent in the PAP’s smugly expected results. There will always be the apathetic, the boot-lickers, the cowardly, and the ignorant to ensure they win eventually anyway.
The difference we can make, however, is how much it wins by. Perhaps if it loses a GRC or two (and the GRC is a PAP invention), they will shake off their slumber and start ruling Singapore as a Republic, that is, for the public, for the People (rather than for personal interests).
Remember how LKY said he will send in the army if there ever is a “freak election” and the PAP is voted out of Parliament? In every other country, when the people vote out the ruling party, it is called a mandate. It is only in Singapore that such a vote is called a “freak election”. Also, whose Army is it anyway? Is it the Army of the people of Singapore – who have just voted out the PAP? Or is it the Army of the PAP?
I list here ten out of the many other reasons why I am unable to vote for the PAP:
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1. I will not render unto Caesar what is not Caesar’s
Given that Singapore’s poor are amongst the Developed World’s poorest, while living standards are amongst the highest in the world, it is not difficult to see why the Government’s ridiculous salaries are distastefully inflated.
The President earns $3.9 million, the PM $3.8 million, the MM and SM $3.5 million each, all other ministers between $2 to $3.2 million and all ministers of state between $1.5 to $1.8 million. These salaries do not include MP allowances, pensions and other sources of income such as Directorship, Chairmanship, Advisory, Consultancy, etc to government-linked and government-related organisations or foreign MNCs, etc. And why are they allowed to work for foreign corporations in the first place? Weren’t their ridiculously-high salaries justified with the excuse that it’ll be THIS excessive precisely so that they will focus on doing their ministerial jobs? Where is the check and balance in this government?
How much do you earn in a year?
In contrast, President Obama earns a more reasonable US$400,000, with US$50,000 expenses. Our most junior ministers are paid more than twice of what the most powerful man in the world gets! Hong Kong, with the same scarcity of resources as Singapore, half the developable land area, but with double the economic success, only pays its Chief Executive Donald Tsang HK$371,885 (US$47, 678). No other nation in the world, no matter how rich or corruption-free, pays it leaders anywhere near ours. That is good enough to show that the PAP rhetoric about their paycheques is plain rubbish (incidentally, “rubbish” seems to be one of LKY’s favourite words).
Adding to that, it had the cheek to raise its own salary right before a GST hike in 2003 and 2004. GST was raised again in 2007 to 7% from <leo_highlight style="border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(255, 255, 150); background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-position: 0% 50%; -moz-background-size: auto auto; cursor: pointer; display: inline; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="leoHighlights_Underline_1" onclick="leoHighlightsHandleClick('leoHighlights_Underline_1')" onmouseover="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOver('leoHighlights_Underline_1')" onmouseout="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOut('leoHighlights_Underline_1')" leohighlights_keywords="the%20original" leohighlights_url_top="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsTop.jsp?keywords%3Dthe%2520original%26domain%3Dsg.yfittopostblog.com" leohighlights_url_bottom="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsBottom.jsp?keywords%3Dthe%2520original%26domain%3Dsg.yfittopostblog.com" leohighlights_underline="true">the original</leo_highlight> 3%. And of course, the PAP salaries have been rising accordingly as well.
It claims it needs to be paid similar to the private sector, but this is the public sector for a reason – you choose to work in the government to serve the country, not your pockets. Arguing that “talents” need this monetary incentive to join the government only goes to show what kind of people are being attracted – greedy, selfish, money-minded elites who see the Civil Service as nothing but a more glamorous avenue to the big bucks since their main reason for serving is not for the good of the country, but for money.
I cannot vote for a government that decides its own ridiculous salaries DESPITE a very strong public opinion against it.
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2. Incompetence
Despite paying astronomic salaries to these patron saints of Singapore, there is much to be desired from their performance. Surely, if we are paying the highest government salaries in the world, it is not unreasonable to simply expect these people to do their job. The recent Bukit Timah Floodings, however, is a case in point showing why this expectation may be misplaced.
Environment Minister Yaacob Ibrahim said that the government knew the diversion canal was not big enough to take the rainwaters. He claimed that because this sort of “freak events” occur only once every 50 years, there was nothing the government could do about it. The Bukit Timah Canal was constructed in 1972, almost 40 years ago – about time something that happens “once every 50 years” would occur. Additionally, meteorologists reported that ‘this flood comes three years after one of Singapore’s worst floodings in recent history, in December 2006‘. 50 years indeed. But alas, our $2.8 million/year Minister was unable to foresee such a simple thing – even while knowing the canal was not big enough! Well, the PUB is planning to work on expanding it now – pretty late or early (depending on where in Singapore you live), since the next time we really need it will be 50 years from now, according to the Minister.
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3. Double standards
It is a well-known fact that GIC and Temasek Holdings, Singapore’s two sovereign wealth funds, are both headed by members of the Lee family. Both have reported a ridiculous loss of $41.6 Billion and$39.91 Billion respective and have yet to answer to the real stakeholders – Singaporeans – on how this could have happened. No one has taken responsibility or issued explanations or anythingat all. In fact, <leo_highlight style="border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(255, 255, 150); background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-position: 0% 50%; -moz-background-size: auto auto; cursor: pointer; display: inline; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="leoHighlights_Underline_2" onclick="leoHighlightsHandleClick('leoHighlights_Underline_2')" onmouseover="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOver('leoHighlights_Underline_2')" onmouseout="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOut('leoHighlights_Underline_2')" leohighlights_keywords="the%20state" leohighlights_url_top="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsTop.jsp?keywords%3Dthe%2520state%26domain%3Dsg.yfittopostblog.com" leohighlights_url_bottom="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsBottom.jsp?keywords%3Dthe%2520state%26domain%3Dsg.yfittopostblog.com" leohighlights_underline="true">the state</leo_highlight> media has been glaringly silent on the issue. Why aren’t we Singaporeans hearing anything about ourmoney?
“When we invest, we invest for the long-term”, Lee Kuan Yew, who heads GIC, said when Temasek Holdings purchased Bank of America shares and then sold it off a few months later, losingbetween US$2.3 to US$4.6 billion just like that.
That is more than $80 Billion in total from the blood and sweat of Singaporeans, down the drain because of bad decisions made by individuals whose multi-million dollar paycheques remain secure no matter how many mistakes they make. In contrast, the Resilience Package tapped into Singapore’s official reserves to withdraw $4.9 billion, and that effort to help Singaporeans in genuine need required hours and hours of debate.
While we should rightfully acknowledge the good that the PAP has done for Singapore, it is often taken for granted that Singaporeans believe a blatant lie that the country’s affluence is owed to the PAP and Lee Kuan Yew’s efforts. No, it came from the efforts of allSingaporeans. Hong Kong did not have a strongman like Lee Kuan Yew to dictate their lives from toilet habits to whether they could hear their own dialect on TV, and yet they have achieved double of what we have – and their people are involved in the political process, not dead and apathetic like our population. There is absolutely no reason to believe that Singapore, with its strategic location and hardworking population, would not have reached its present affluence under a less money-minded David Marshall or someone else.
Moreover, the oft-used justification for the lofty salaries of the government is that the private sector pays its leaders similar salaries. Well, in the private sector, there is such a thing asaccountability. Where is Temasek Holdings’ accountability? Where is GIC’s accountability? Where was Wong Kan Seng’s accountability when his <leo_highlight style="border-bottom: 2px solid rgb(255, 255, 150); background-color: transparent; background-image: none; background-repeat: repeat; background-attachment: scroll; background-position: 0% 50%; -moz-background-size: auto auto; cursor: pointer; display: inline; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" id="leoHighlights_Underline_3" onclick="leoHighlightsHandleClick('leoHighlights_Underline_3')" onmouseover="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOver('leoHighlights_Underline_3')" onmouseout="leoHighlightsHandleMouseOut('leoHighlights_Underline_3')" leohighlights_keywords="ministry" leohighlights_url_top="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsTop.jsp?keywords%3Dministry%26domain%3Dsg.yfittopostblog.com" leohighlights_url_bottom="http%3A//shortcuts.thebrowserhighlighter.com/leonardo/plugin/highlights/3_2/tbh_highlightsBottom.jsp?keywords%3Dministry%26domain%3Dsg.yfittopostblog.com" leohighlights_underline="true">Ministry</leo_highlight> slipped up time and time again? Where is Yaacob Ibrahim’s accountability? What exactly happens when a minister makes a mistake in Singapore? Where is the Fourth Estate to play its role as a watchdog?
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4. Blatant lies
We are probably the only country in the world that has had its MPs possibly blatantly lie in Parliament and yet achieve high rankings on corruptibility. Anyone remember the mention of White Horses in Parliament? Practically every NSF believes that there is such a thing as White Horses, yet right there in Parliament, an affront to the ideals of democracy, transparency and integrity in this country, our leaders possibly lied to its people (I am not sure if they really did lie, but that so many people believe that White Horses still exist begs the question). If it could do that once, it could have done it before, and it can do it again. What is the point of wearing white, trying to look pure, if you are a liar? If they did lie, I cannot vote for such blatant liars to be my leaders – especially when they lie about such things NOT for the good of the country, but for their own interests, for the unfairly selective comfort of their own children at the very expense of the equality this country was founded upon.
The media in Singapore is entirely controlled via Singapore Press Holdings, headed by a former PAP minister, Dr Tony Tan. Masquerading as an independent paper, the Straits Times, while not necessarily fabricating facts on its own (at least I hope not), blatantly twists them. For example (extracted from here), the media was full of praise of Temasek CEO Ho Ching for earning a few million dollars on paper, but failed to highlight her disastrous investment decisions such as buying the shares of Barclays bank at a high and selling them at a low a few months later.
The Straits Times credited the Singapore Internal Security Department for providing the crucial “intelligence” which led to the capture of escaped terrorist Mas Selamat Kasteri by the Malaysian Special Branch. It turned out that the operation was part of a joint collaboration by the Malaysian, Singapore and Indonesian police and the Singapore ISD actually played only a minor role in the capture of Mas Selamat, but the Straits Times did not mention this to give the public the full picture, choosing rather to mislead Singaporeans into believing that ISD had indeed “redeemed” itself.
Without a free press in Singapore, Singaporeans are robbed of access to real and accurate news that does not include propaganda and spins that mislead. They are robbed of a crucial check and balance in the form of the Fourth Estate that acts as a watchdog to ensure the government is doing its job. Afterall, government corruptibility has more often than once been revealed solely because of a free press, an example of which is the Watergate Scandal. A free press will act as a check on corruptibility, not sky-high salaries. In the end, if media content is regulated by the government, it is Singaporeans who stand to lose.
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5. Operation Coldstore and the 1963 General Elections
The 1963 Singapore General Elections was the toughest and most critical the PAP ever faced. It had already suffered two by-election defeats and the number of seats it held was 26 – holding a majority by just one seat.
On 2 February 1963, just a few months before the elections, Operation Coldstore was launched and more than a hundred people were arrested and detained without trial, including the Secretary-General and other key members of the Barisan Sosialis, the PAP’s biggest threat.
Despite the heavy blow, which was obviously undermined the Barisan Sosialis’ success at the Elections, they won 33.2% of the popular vote and the PAP took 46.9%. What do you think the PAP would have gotten if it hadn’t carried out Operation Coldstore?
And why do Singaporeans not know about such an important aspect of their national history?
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6. Lim Chin Siong
Lim Chin Siong was recruited into the PAP by Lee Kuan Yew in 1954, and his immense popularity amongst the Chinese won a large amount of support for the PAP. When Lim Chin Siong was arrested by the British in 1955 for anti-colonial activities, the PAP promised the electorate to release him if they were elected, in order to gain votes.
At the age of 22, Lim Chin Siong was elected into the Legislative Assembly, and he was so popular among the people that Lee Kuan Yew was prompted to promise that he would be ‘our future Prime Minister‘ (guess who became PM instead?).
However, he soon grew disillusioned with the PAP and left to form the Barisan Sosialis in 1961. Under the pretext of being a communist, he was detained without trial under Operation Coldstore for SIX YEARS until he was forced to renounce politics and went into exile in 1969. Up till today, there is hardly any concrete evidence at all that he was ever a communist. Yet, it was the reason he was eliminated from the precarious 1963 General Elections. Imagine being removed from your family, being locked up for 6 years, NEVER given a trial, and then thrown out of the country, all because you are popular and the government fears you?
Lee Kuan Yew himself said of him “I liked and respected him for his simple lifestyle and his selflessness. He did not seek financial gain or political glory. He was totally committed to the advancement of his cause“. This was the kind of men who sincerely fought with their lives for the good of the country. And they were persecuted and crushed by the PAP in order to snatch power. Contrast the lives of such men with the kind of PAP MPs we have today.
[13th Dec '09 - Edit: Click here to read about Operation Spectrum, launched in 1987 under that terrible ISA again. Over 20 people were detained without trial under the accusation of a Marxist conspiracy. After being released a few months later, they repudiated their earlier confessions, alleged ill-treatment by ISD officers while in detention, and were arrested the very next day(how come this sort of efficiency is lacking with real threats like Mas Selamat?). Ten days later, the government announced that a proposed commission of inquiry into the allegations made by the detainees was no longer necessary as the signatories have since recanted their statement while in detention. Hmm, I wonder why.
Excerpt from their statement:
"...we were subjected to harsh and intensive interrogation, deprived of sleep and rest, some of us for as long as 70 hours insides freezing cold rooms. All of us were stripped of our personal clothing, including spectacles, footwear and underwear and made to change into prisoners' uniforms.
Most of us were made to stand continually during interrogation, some of us for over 20 hours and under the full blast of air-conditioning turned to a very low temperature.
Under these conditions, one of us was repeatedly doused with cold water during interrogation.
Most of us were hit hard in the face, some of us for not less than 50 times, while others were assaulted on other parts of the body, during the first three days of interrogation.
We were threatened with more physical abuse during interrogation.
We were threatened with arrests, assault and battery of our spouses, loved ones and friends. We were threatened with INDEFINITE detention without trial. Chia Thye Poh, who is still in detention after twenty years, was cited as an example. We were told that no one could help us unless we "cooperated" with the ISD.
These threats were constantly on our minds during the time we wrote our respective "statements" in detention.
We were actively discouraged from engaging legal counsel and advised to discharge our lawyers and against taking legal action (including making representations to the ISA Advisory Board) so as not to jeopardise our chances of release.
We were compelled to appear on television and warned that our release would depend on our performances on tv. We were coerced to make statements such as "I am Marxist-inclined..."; "My ideal society is a classless society..." ; " so-and-so is my mentor..."; "I was made use of by so-and-so..." in order to incriminate ourselves and other detainees."
This is another reason why I will not be able to vote for the PAP. I cannot bring myself to support such a brutal and callous government which treats its people as such. And I cannot support its continued use of the ISA in Singapore, in spite of its usefulness in handling terrorists (who is the real terrorist here?), because time and again, history has shown that it is innocent Singaporeans who will suffer most from such a law that allows the government to conveniently eliminate all threats to itself - not the nation - without trial, without evidence, without accountability of any kind.]
[Edit: 15th Dec '09 - Click here for yet another forced confession account.]
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7. Singaporean students need to learn a fair and accurate history in school
The fact that practically no young Singaporean knows about important people like Lim Chin Siong, or even David Marshall, our first Chief Minister, is testament to the spectacular failure of our education system. All they ever learn about our country’s history is LKY and Raffles, LKY and Raffles, LKY and Raffles, and maybe a bit about the War. No wonder our students find history boring. No wonder our students do not feel attached to this country because their knowledge of its history is so shallow.
Why has MOE removed the important bits of Singapore’s history from schoolbooks? The bits about Operation Coldstore (and the realities behind it), the historic Anson by-election, the real founder of the PAP (who, by the way, is not surnamed Lee), our ex-President Devan Nair, Ong Teng Cheong’s request – which was never granted to the day he died – to be given a list of Singapore’s reserves (because as President he needed to know what he is protecting, since the President’s role is to be Protector of the Reserves – and did you know that the President’s role is that, by the way?), etc. Why are Singaporeans being robbed of their history and then accused of being apathetic?
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8. Traumatic MP-experiences and MPs who fear death by The Chair
The kind of PAP MPs that Singapore is ruled by today is a worthy cause for Trauma.
In short, a married couple went to see their MP because their eldest son recently passed away from a naval accident while serving NS. They explained that their younger son will be serving his NS soon and requested for an exemption because of what had just happened. They said that it’s been a traumatic time for them. And the MP replied “What traumatic? After two months, you won’t be traumatic”.
As if insensitive MPs are not enough, the PAP is fielding hyper-sensitive wimps behind the shadows with their GRC Trick. Tell me who on earth has ever been afraid of being killed by an aluminium chair slammed against a door? And where is the sympathy? Where is the waving it off as “an honest mistake” especially when there was no harm done?
The GRC, by the way, was invented by the PAP. The fact that it seems to engage in gerrymandering (drawing up election borders in its favour) goes to show the extent it is willing to go just to stay in power. The GRC is also unfair because constituents are forced to vote into Parliament men and women they do not really want to have. This whole system, however, was implemented without asking Singaporeans, of course. The PAP decided it wanted to have the GRCs, and it passed the law to have the GRCs. No say from the people at all. Is this democracy? Is gerrymandering for the good of the people?
With such people ruling the country, it is honestly difficult to believe we are in good hands. Contrasted against the lives of men such as Lim Chin Siong, it is hard to rule out the severe suspicion that the MPs we have today are joining the Government for personal interest, not the nation’s.
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9. Money. Of course it’s all about money.
Singapore claims it pays its ministers astronomical salaries because “talents” need to be attracted from the private sector – this is simply saying that our ministers serve the country just for money.
Also, their pay is pegged to GDP growth – which is why it is no wonder that everything in this country seems to be focused on the economy. The government is so caught up in money-making because its salaries are pegged to it! Moreover, if Singaporeans are attuned to the mentality that money is all there is to life (and many, many Singaporeans are), then they will be less bothered about the other compromises to their civil rights, and less likely to be concerned about what their government is really doing, so long as the money keeps flowing in. What a cheap people we have become.
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10. What Singapore needs is change
Lastly, by voting for a significant change to the status quo, Singaporean youths will become less apathetic, seeing that, for the first time in their lives, CHANGE is really possible in this country, and that they can make a difference in deciding for the future of Singapore.
The PAP will also be less complacent if it meets with a stunning defeat. Its cold Point 8-type ministers will also learn that it is Singaporeans they are supposed to be serving, not themselves. They will learn to treasure their constituents, to sincerely listen their opinions and to truly help them – all these are SUPPOSED to be their job in the first place.
People will also start to dare to join the Opposition. The only reason why I do not wish for the Opposition to take over the government is because it is incompetent, and it is incompetent because talented men and women who are concerned about the aforementioned issues, do not have the courage or faith in the system to step forward and join the Opposition (hell no, not with a law like the ISA in place). But if the PAP faces a defeat that is significant enough, trust in the democratic system of Singapore will finally be restored and the politics of Singapore can be revived to more than just dead rhetoric.
Of course we are grateful for the many, many good things the PAP has done for Singapore. It has been an excellent government in many ways (especially economically – I wonder why). However, it has also been found lacking in many aspects. Politics is not a charity, as they would themselves say with regard to the Opposition, and we cannot vote for a government simply because it used to serve the people well. If it has lost its focus, then support for the Opposition is the only way to make them regain this focus. No one ever says “I have a good salary already, please donot give me a pay rise”. Everyone wants improvements to their lives, and if we care about this country, we should seek improvements to the way it is run as well, even if we are satisfied with this country to start with.
My vote counts. So will yours. Vote wisely.



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iN SHORT,WE SINKEES HAVE VOTED IN A DEVIL ALL THE TIME ? omg ! hEAVEN HELP THIS LITTLE RED DOT !
 
Have a friend who is currently in his 40s. Is a very experienced sales professional who was unfortunate to be replaced by an FT in his last job 4-5 years ago.

Recently finally got an interview after many many letters and contact recommendations. The hiring manager is a Pinoy. My friend said he interview went well. however, on his way out, another candidate was waiting for his turn next. He is a Pinoy :eek:.

No prize for guessing who gets the job and who continue to be jobless, after serving his NS and a true-blue Singaporean.

PAP is not getting his and his family's vote for sure, togehter with a few other mid-level managers/specialists who are still jobless after many years and still looking for a job, including those securiity/cleaner jobs in CDC.
 
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Ahh.....yes....i can feel my hordes of foreign trash flooding in!
 
Have a friend who is currently in his 40s. Is a very experienced sales professional who was unfortunate to be replaced by an FT in his last job 4-5 years ago.

Recently finally got an interview after many many letters and contact recommendations. The hiring manager is a Pinoy. My friend said he interview went well. however, on his way out, another candidate was waiting for his turn next. He is a Pinoy :eek:.

No prize for guessing who gets the job and who continue to be jobless, after serving his NS and a true-blue Singaporean.

PAP is not getting his and his family's vote for sure, togehter with a few other mid-level managers/specialists who are still jobless after many years and still looking for a job, including those securiity/cleaner jobs in CDC.


Why is the hiring manager a Pinoy in the first place??


Cheebye Sinkie Senior Management. No brains and no loyalty.
 
Why is the hiring manager a Pinoy in the first place??


Cheebye Sinkie Senior Management. No brains and no loyalty.

Huh ?? What makes you think senior management in all companies must be sinkies?

Other than some local, family-owned companies, most of MNCs are headed by foreigners from regional top-man to secretaries. Receptionists/Marketing specialists, etc are likely pinoys.

Even in local companies, you can find FT managers too, for a fraction of the cost of hiring a local manager. Which business owner do not want to have maximum profits for themself ?

Brains and loyalty ? Those are taught in schools and the Pledge only.
 
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