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SneeringTree

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LOL! Nothing is impossible to ban in Singapore. Just ban smoking and tobacco products. Save mortuary costs.

No, there will just be a insidious black market for it. It's not easy for most, if not all, smokers to quit. Too bad for them that they got addicted in the first place. So please don't tell me about rights and freedom when addiction is involved. Nothing is a "choice" if there is an addiction!
 

Ramseth

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No, there will just be a insidious black market for it. It's not easy for most, if not all, smokers to quit. Too bad for them that they got addicted in the first place. So please don't tell me about rights and freedom when addiction is involved. Nothing is a "choice" if there is an addiction!


Narcotics is also addictive, and far more addictive than nicotine. It's banned. There's still black market. Just work on enforcement.
 

SneeringTree

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Narcotics is also addictive, and far more addictive than nicotine. It's banned. There's still black market. Just work on enforcement.

Actually nicotine is one of the most addictive. Banned substances like marijuana have been found to be less addictive than nicotine/cigarettes.

I think it's too much to suddenly ban cigarettes. I think most of those loser smokers will literally die or make daily trips to JB to smoke.
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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Smoking ban extended
By Jermyn Chow

The smoking ban will also cover almost all indoor places, like lift lobbies, markets, multi-storey, basement carparks as well as in outdoor areas like playgrounds and exercise areas. -- ST PHOTO: EDWIN KOO

FROM January 1, smokers will have to stub out in all hotel lobbies and 5 metres away from all entrances and exits of buildings.

The smoking ban will also cover almost all indoor places, with the inclusion of non-air-conditioned premises like lift lobbies, markets, multi-storey and basement carparks. Smoking will also be banned in outdoor areas like playgrounds and exercise areas.

The National Environment Agency (NEA) on Friday said it is widening the list of smoke-free places to keep the air cleaner and further protect the public from the harmful health effects of second-hand smoke.

The move is also in line with the World Health Organisation recommendations.

'The ban has been extended to indoor public places and lift lobbies because these are areas where public would find it hard to escape from second-hand smoke,' said the NEA.

'Entrances and exits to buildings and facilities where smoking is already prohibited were also included in the ban extension because feedback and checks on the ground have shown that smokers tend to congregate near these areas to smoke.'

Second-hand smoke, also known as 'environmental tobacco smoke or passive smoking', kills and scientific evidence shows that there is no safe level of exposure.

It can cause serious medical conditions including lung cancer, heart disease, asthma attacks, childhood respiratory disease, sudden infant death syndrom and reduced lung function.

Mr Lee Yuen Hee, Chief Executive Officer of the NEA, said on Friday: 'We are encouraged by the positive feedback from many individuals and families who support the extension of the smoking ban and appreciate the effort of smokers who have chosen not to light up in smoke-free areas, helping to promote clean air and good health.'

The NEA will be rolling out a series of publicity activities to inform the public of the extended ban.

It has also conducted meetings and dialogues with various parties and will work with building and facilities managers to ensure smooth implementation of the ban.
 

borom

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I only know burning incense papers can get smoke and ashes into neighbouring flats. .

Then I'd suggest banning public corridor incense paper burning first.


Agree-I find effect of the burning of incense papers in public places worse than smoking and an infringement of the rights of those who cannot stand the smell and smoke.
They should either ban burning of incense papers in public places or restrict it to certain designated areas and to certain hours.

I hope it does not take a tragic incident (like the fire that killed two siblings in Hougang) before the self proclaimed first class government will act.
 

singveld

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LOL! Nothing is impossible to ban in Singapore. Just ban smoking and tobacco products. Save mortuary costs.

smoking is impossible to ban , even in singapore.

ban lah, see what happen. PAP will be boot out of gov in next election.
 

manx007

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Very good article and well wriiten!! Mainly because i am a smoker too.. Remembered when i was young, used to detest ciggies too. But in this stressfull and ungracious environment we are living in, some of us cant help but indulge in these harmful substance. Have to stress that we are not monks or holy personel but a normal or cant adjust ourself properly to pressure and moodswing. It is not entirely correct to deprieve us of our rights to relieve our pleasure for a good 5-10 mins. If really so as what they want to achieve, they should clam down the so called legal vice in Geylang and stop the STDs from spreading and forgo internet chat or anything that allows us to communicate with strangers on our own accord in order to prevent any mishap. So many things therefore to start banning after. At the end of the day what kind of society are there trying to shape? Smoking cant but casino allow? Porn cant surf but prostituing allow? Really they are playing on their own!!
 

Ramseth

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smoking is impossible to ban , even in singapore.

ban lah, see what happen. PAP will be boot out of gov in next election.


I don't see your mathematics here. Singapore's smokers percentage is 20% or below. I'd say that it's more probable for every vote lost by banning smoking, four votes or more are gained from non-smokers.

Therefore, I don't think that the government is too worried about the vote swing in case of banning smoking. The tax revenue is the main concern. But why make money out of a health risk product, then complain about healthcare cost and smokers' burden on the healthcare system?
 

jasti

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I don't see your mathematics here. Singapore's smokers percentage is 20% or below. I'd say that it's more probable for every vote lost by banning smoking, four votes or more are gained from non-smokers.

Is it not a likelihood that a portion of the non-smokers are also dulan the dumbass PAP for some other things? For being fined for this or that every other day?

Whatever the case, just unite and vote out the dumbass PAP for a better tomorrow.
 
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