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Singapore is more democratic than Canada

Green Light

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No say? It's simply not true, she says

BACK in Singapore with my husband and 11-year-old son last week, I was struck by how the city has changed since we left in 2007, after living in the Republic for 16 years.

The range of new attractions is simply astounding. Along Sentosa's beachfront alone, I counted at least a dozen adrenaline-pumping activities and leisure zones boasting swimming pools, restaurants and overstuffed couches to lounge on. In short, Singapore is hard to beat.

However, strolling around Holland Village, what did I encounter? A middle-aged couple handing out pro- democracy brochures and shouting, 'Support democracy'.

My husband, an American citizen, said to the pair: 'I'm American and you don't want what we have. Democracy isn't about choice. It's just a fancy word for partisan bickering and gridlocked government.'

Singapore has spent decades crafting a cohesive and remarkably prosperous society.

In a report on Monday about an interview given by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew ('View among young that S'pore can be put on auto-pilot still concerns MM'), he warned that turning Singapore into an open political marketplace could pit racial groups against each other in the battle to get votes.

He said: 'If you do not have a cohesive society, you cannot make progress.'

Pick up any history book and you will find that Mr Lee's words are true. But, although Singaporeans are the lucky recipients of so much, sometimes they take it for granted and bray about 'democracy'.

As a citizen of Canada, a 'democracy', I would add that Singaporeans have far more say in what their government does than I do in mine. For example, before the goods and services tax came in years ago, Singaporeans were consulted first. Meanwhile, Canada's government has just pushed through a punishing 'harmony tax' and Canadians weren't consulted at all.

Likewise, in Singapore, important issues - such as whether to have integrated resorts or not - are discussed and debated before a decision is made.

So why do Singaporeans complain that they have no say when they do?

Singapore, you've got so much to lose. Do you really want that couple in Holland Village jeopardising it all by shouting about democracy?

Margo McCutcheon (Ms)
 

IR123

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i am glad they like singapore; problem with people like them is that they do not want to take up singapore citizenship

canada's tax is more than 40%; other than that, canada beats singapore hands down: vast country, established political system, presence of good opposition, vast region, thriving chinese community. Can always be a citizen there and be a foreign talent in the welcoming arms of the singapore government, when singapore hit a bad patch, can always return to canada, this is a very significant advantage because there is a way to run; if canada hit a bad patch, remain in singapore and thrive; canadian passport is recognized and respected, their universities are higher grade than singapore's, a culture of respect

and yes, no need to worry about racial ties
 

no_faith

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and at 2007 u decided to abandon the island?
u at Canada buay jalan sibo?
hahaha, funny sia.....Ms Mango :oIo:

get ready your boy boy barang barang when he hit 18 yrs. :oIo:
 

rodent2005

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My husband, an American citizen, said to the pair: 'I'm American and you don't want what we have. Democracy isn't about choice. It's just a fancy word for partisan bickering and gridlocked government.'

Singapore has spent decades crafting a cohesive and remarkably prosperous society.

The prosperity part was the past, now Singaporeans face an uncertain future.

To be sure, Democracy is not perfect but it is much better than totalitarian and the oppression that comes with it.

The husband is basically saying subjugate yourself to special interests groups like him. For the sake of "cohesion", submit yourself to a dictator. They must have loved the former Soviet Union and North Korea.

For example, before the goods and services tax came in years ago, Singaporeans were consulted first. Meanwhile, Canada's government has just pushed through a punishing 'harmony tax' and Canadians weren't consulted at all.

Likewise, in Singapore, important issues - such as whether to have integrated resorts or not - are discussed and debated before a decision is made.

So why do Singaporeans complain that they have no say when they do?

When did the PAP ever listen? When did Singaporeans ever have a say? Did the PAP hold a referendum on these issues and follow the result of the referendum?

If Americans and Canadians are not happy, they can vote the government out. What does she mean that she has no say?

Singapore, you've got so much to lose. Do you really want that couple in Holland Village jeopardising it all by shouting about democracy?

Margo McCutcheon (Ms)

If I am a foreigner living in a foreign country, I would love to have the government take care of my livelihood and security by oppressing the people too. Why should we not listen to the 2 couples and listen to 2 foreigners who have their ulterior motive instead?
 

yuelao

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Singapore has spent decades crafting a cohesive and remarkably prosperous society.

In a report on Monday about an interview given by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew ('View among young that S'pore can be put on auto-pilot still concerns MM'), he warned that turning Singapore into an open political marketplace could pit racial groups against each other in the battle to get votes.

He said: 'If you do not have a cohesive society, you cannot make progress.'

Margo McCutcheon (Ms)

Cohesive society? With fucking foreigners and million-dollar-salaries ministers all over the place? Yeah, right. The prosperous part is certainly true for the ministers though.
 

johnny333

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BACK in Singapore with my husband and 11-year-old son last week, I was struck by how the city has changed since we left in 2007, after living in the Republic for 16 years.

The range of new attractions is simply astounding. Along Sentosa's beachfront alone, I counted at least a dozen adrenaline-pumping activities and leisure zones boasting swimming pools, restaurants and overstuffed couches to lounge on. In short, Singapore is hard to beat.

However, strolling around Holland Village, what did I encounter? A middle-aged couple handing out pro- democracy brochures and shouting, 'Support democracy'.

My husband, an American citizen, said to the pair: 'I'm American and you don't want what we have. Democracy isn't about choice. It's just a fancy word for partisan bickering and gridlocked government.'

Singapore has spent decades crafting a cohesive and remarkably prosperous society.

In a report on Monday about an interview given by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew ('View among young that S'pore can be put on auto-pilot still concerns MM'), he warned that turning Singapore into an open political marketplace could pit racial groups against each other in the battle to get votes.

He said: 'If you do not have a cohesive society, you cannot make progress.'

Pick up any history book and you will find that Mr Lee's words are true. But, although Singaporeans are the lucky recipients of so much, sometimes they take it for granted and bray about 'democracy'.

As a citizen of Canada, a 'democracy', I would add that Singaporeans have far more say in what their government does than I do in mine. For example, before the goods and services tax came in years ago, Singaporeans were consulted first. Meanwhile, Canada's government has just pushed through a punishing 'harmony tax' and Canadians weren't consulted at all.

Likewise, in Singapore, important issues - such as whether to have integrated resorts or not - are discussed and debated before a decision is made.

So why do Singaporeans complain that they have no say when they do?

Singapore, you've got so much to lose. Do you really want that couple in Holland Village jeopardising it all by shouting about democracy?

Margo McCutcheon (Ms)


Obviously another ignorant foreigner or is this another PAP ghost writer :confused:


If Spore is such a paradise why is this couple living in Canada instead of moving to Singapore :confused: As Canadians no one in Canada is going to stop them. :smile:

Potential Canadian PRs must wait on average 5 years because of the long, long, long, ...queue of people wanting to get in. Canada is the size of the US but only has 35 million people. Think of all the space & natural resources. :eek:

Canadian-Hongkies who are now working in HK are unwilling to give up their Canadian citizenship. Even have americans moving to Canada:eek: I know many ex-Sporeans who are now Canadians & they love their new home.

Probably another PAP plant to make Spore look good. GE akan datang :confused: Getting tired of reading these old type of stories because it's obvious that today Sporeans in Spore are now facing overcrowding by foreigners, floods, high cost of housing, lack of jobs, expensive gov't,..... Cohesive thingee is really irrelevant.
 

exSINgaporean

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"For example, before the goods and services tax came in years ago, Singaporeans were consulted first. Meanwhile, Canada's government has just pushed through a punishing 'harmony tax' and Canadians weren't consulted at all."


This is because the Canadian govt. does not want to WAYANG!
 

KuanTi01

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This guy is so misinformed and misguided. Try holding a peaceful demo or simply hold a placard and walk in front of Parliament House with a friend! That will constitute unlawful assembly, procession and breach of the peace, nuisance all rolled in.:rolleyes:
 

mollusk

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(Likewise, in Singapore, important issues - such as whether to have integrated resorts or not - are discussed and debated before a decision is made)

haha..this part quite funny...do this margo person fully understand when singapore goverment discussed and debated it actually meant talk cock sing song..:oIo:
 

Papsmearer

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No say? It's simply not true, she says

BACK in Singapore with my husband and 11-year-old son last week, I was struck by how the city has changed since we left in 2007, after living in the Republic for 16 years.

The range of new attractions is simply astounding. Along Sentosa's beachfront alone, I counted at least a dozen adrenaline-pumping activities and leisure zones boasting swimming pools, restaurants and overstuffed couches to lounge on. In short, Singapore is hard to beat.

However, strolling around Holland Village, what did I encounter? A middle-aged couple handing out pro- democracy brochures and shouting, 'Support democracy'.

My husband, an American citizen, said to the pair: 'I'm American and you don't want what we have. Democracy isn't about choice. It's just a fancy word for partisan bickering and gridlocked government.'

Singapore has spent decades crafting a cohesive and remarkably prosperous society.

In a report on Monday about an interview given by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew ('View among young that S'pore can be put on auto-pilot still concerns MM'), he warned that turning Singapore into an open political marketplace could pit racial groups against each other in the battle to get votes.

He said: 'If you do not have a cohesive society, you cannot make progress.'

Pick up any history book and you will find that Mr Lee's words are true. But, although Singaporeans are the lucky recipients of so much, sometimes they take it for granted and bray about 'democracy'.

As a citizen of Canada, a 'democracy', I would add that Singaporeans have far more say in what their government does than I do in mine. For example, before the goods and services tax came in years ago, Singaporeans were consulted first. Meanwhile, Canada's government has just pushed through a punishing 'harmony tax' and Canadians weren't consulted at all.

Likewise, in Singapore, important issues - such as whether to have integrated resorts or not - are discussed and debated before a decision is made.

So why do Singaporeans complain that they have no say when they do?

Singapore, you've got so much to lose. Do you really want that couple in Holland Village jeopardising it all by shouting about democracy?

Margo McCutcheon (Ms)

Wow, its amazing. This canadian cunt lived here for 16 years and still don't see anything? I wonder how her husband feels to be married to the stupidest white woman in canada? For a supposed journalist, her critical thinking and analytical skills are missing. If her american husband don't like democracy and doesnt want to have it, why does he not live in North Korea or Cuba? Only know how to talk big. The fact he can freely travel the world with his dumb canadian wife is already a testament to US freedom.

Yes, the goods and services tax might have been pushed thru by a canadian govt., but if canadians don't like it, they can and often do vote the govt. out. Is this possible in S'pore? Do the ruling canadian govt sue oppo members, jail them, bankrupt them, gerrymander the electoral borders, etc? Do Canadian PMs expect their sons to succeed them in a dynasty form? Do Canadians take a referendum on whether to host an Olympic event or is it shaft down their throats like here? Do Canadians allow their govt. to lose tens of billions of dollars, with no repurcussions and have it simply dismissed as "an honest mistake"? Does this cunt not know that not one single so call govt. consultation or survey has ever been made public?

We all know she is running out of money and needs a job. That is why she is sucking some PAP cock inthe hopes that SHit Times will give her a job. I pity the son though. To have 2 parents so pathetic, he will need lots of counselling when he grows up.
 

Ramseth

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My husband, an American citizen, said to the pair: 'I'm American and you don't want what we have. Democracy isn't about choice. It's just a fancy word for partisan bickering and gridlocked government.'

It's just human nature and commonsense. They don't wan't debates and gridlocks when policy decisions are always going their ways. If suddenly PAP wants to kick out Americans and Canadians, then hear what they say.
 

Agoraphobic

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Dear Ms. Margo:

The most democratic country in the world is India. And there are people are starving.

The least democratic country in the world is North Korea (and handful of others.) And some people there are also starving.

If one's country is somewhere in between, comparing "democracies" is senseless and a waste of time, there are other issues more important than "democracy." In lucky countries, its football. In not so lucky countries.....

In democracy, you get to choose who fucks you. In its absence, you don't. That's the ONLY difference.

Cheers!



No say? It's simply not true, she says

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.... you've got so much to lose. Do you really want that couple in Holland Village jeopardising it all by shouting about democracy?

Margo McCutcheon (Ms)
 

Ramseth

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Democracy is having two wolves and a sheep voting on dinner.

I thought democracy is defined as the tyranny of the majority over the minority, whereas facism is the tyranny of the minority over the majority.
 

Cruxx

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I thought democracy is defined as the tyranny of the majority over the minority, whereas facism is the tyranny of the minority over the majority.

Are not the two hungry wolves the majority? And no, facism isn't defined by the tyranny of the minority over the majority. Facism is a racist ideology. Its central premise in crude terms is this: "my country is better than yours". It sees citizens as part of a corporatist body rather than individuals e.g all men must serve the army because 没有囯就没有家. If one soldier was to die while serving, then his demise shall be treated as nothing more than the loss of a cog in the wheel. The life of one citizen is expendable as long as the greater good is served. There's no such thing as individual freedom. Anyway, if you seek a better understanding of facism, I suggest you read this book written by an Austrian-German author titled 'Mein Kampf'
 
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