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Serious Shamu desperate, trying to blame TOC for everything

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https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...hind-online-citizen-reiterates-need-laws-curb
SINGAPORE — Online sites that receive funding from and hire foreigners can easily be used to advance foreign interests, Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam said on Wednesday (Sept 25).

He highlighted sociopolitical website, The Online Citizen (TOC), as an example, noting that it received support from foreigners and employs foreigners — including Malaysians — who write “almost exclusively negative articles” on social and political matters in Singapore.

Speaking at a RSIS conference on foreign-interference tactics and countermeasures on Wednesday (Sept 25), Mr Shanmugam pointed out that the site was responsible for an article at the heart of a defamation lawsuit brought by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.

Mr Lee’s lawyers had described content in the article as false, including allegations that Mr Lee had misled his late father into thinking the Government had gazetted their Oxley Road family home.

Mr Shanmugam said he was not commenting on the legal merits of the article and only that it was written by a Malaysian named Rubaashini Shunmuganathan, who is said to reside in Shah Alam, Selangor.

She was also behind another article urging Singaporean civil servants to follow the example of their counterparts in Hong Kong, which has been in the grip of months of protests.

Noting that the writer has written many other articles to try to influence views in Singapore, Mr Shanmugam said this raised questions of who controls and pays her, and what purposes her work serves.

Mr Shanmugam, who was speaking at the Parkroyal hotel on Beach Road, pointed out that most readers would assume that a Singaporean contributor was behind TOC’s articles.

Only five out of 14 administrators of the website, which is helmed by chief editor Terry Xu, are in Singapore, he pointed out.

Nine are based elsewhere, including four in Malaysia and two in Indonesia.

“We don’t know who they are. Are they Singaporeans? Are they foreigners?,” said Mr Shanmugam, who is also Law Minister.

ACTIVISTS WHO MET DR MAHATHIR

In another example cited by Mr Shanmugam, historian Thum Ping Tjin, political dissident Tan Wah Piow, freelance journalist Kirsten Han, civil-rights activist Jolovan Wham and graphic novelist Sonny Liew met Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in Kuala Lumpur last year.

They urged the Malaysian leader to bring democracy to Singapore and other countries, with Dr Thum saying Singapore should be a part of Malaysia and celebrate independence on Malaysia Day on Sept 16.

Ms Han and Dr Thum also set up New Naratif, a self-described movement for democracy and freedom of expression in the region, which receives foreign funds, Mr Shanmugam said.

Ms Han recently said Singapore had failed in comparison to Hong Kong because the masses have not fanned out onto the streets here.

She wants to change that through classes run by New Naratif.

“(This) will seem ridiculous on so many levels, but leave that aside because everyone is entitled to their views, however reasonable or unreasonable,” said Mr Shanmugam.

But he asked: “Should foreign contributions be received in order to push these lines?”

He noted that these online sites are “only interested to get eyeballs” and have been used by other countries to attack and deepen divisions.

LAWS NEEDED

Mr Shanmugam reiterated that legislation was necessary and the state cannot take a hands-off approach because foreign interference in Singapore’s affairs is “an issue of national sovereignty and national security”.

Laws must be able to counteract foreign interference, including giving the Government powers to make targeted, “surgical” interventions to investigate and respond quickly to hostile information campaigns.

The authorities must also have access to information to investigate the provenance of content, ascertain the extent to which it is being influenced by foreign parties and respond appropriately.

“The serious impact of hostile information campaigns on the social fabric, political sovereignty, peace, stability and national security has to be met head-on by states, working with technology companies as partners,” he said.

Other countries have done this, including France, which has introduced an information-manipulation law that mandates transparency over social-media platforms’ algorithms and election advertising.

It also allows the French national broadcasting agency to suspend television channels controlled or influenced by a foreign state.

Stressing that foreign interference is an “age-old threat” going back thousands of years, Mr Shanmugam said: “Governments have to lead from the front and we need to ensure we have the right tools to fight this.”
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...hind-online-citizen-reiterates-need-laws-curb

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But then Singapore can interfere in other countries, no problem.
 
But then Singapore can interfere in other countries, no problem.

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https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...-shanmugans-comments-on-foreign-interference/
Home Affairs and Law Minister K Shanmugam said on Wednesday that our website, The Online Citizen, employs foreigners to write almost exclusively negative articles on social and political matters in Singapore, including content that seek to ‘fracture social cohesion’.
Highlighting specifically the article that is now the subject of a lawsuit between PM Lee Hsien Loong and TOC’s editor Terry Xu, Mr Shanmugan said, “I’m not commenting on the legal merits of the article, since it is the subject of a lawsuit, only that a foreigner, staying in Malaysia, writes these things for a Singapore site to target a Singapore audience.”
He went on: “Who controls her? Who pays her? What is her purpose? All these are legitimate questions. most readers would just assume this was by a genuine Singaporean contributor.”
Mr Shanmugan was speaking at a one-day conference on Foreign Interference Tactics and Countermeasures organised by the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, Nanyang Technological University.


In his speech, Mr Shanmugan also questioned the administrators of TOC, saying that nine out of 14 are located outside of Singapore. “We don’t know who they are. Are they Singaporeans? Are they foreigners?”
He also talked about how “some news sites” have anonymous contributors, which leaves them open to being used by foreign interests to publish inflammatory articles that “attack and deepen divisions” within a country.
“They have no interest in sociopolitical stability within a country,” he said.
“Their only interest is in eyeballs.”
Responding to Mr Shanmugam’s fiery statement, Terry asserts that all articles published on TOC are directed and subsequently approved by him as the Chief Editor.
“Nothing goes unvetted by me, a Singaporean who has served his national service and held responsible by the Ministry of Communication and Information as the registered person in charge,” said Terry.
“If one is to observe the series of Facebook posts and now, the Law Minister comments, one can easily come to a conclusion that there is a collaborated campaign to discredit TOC.”
He then went on to address the debate on hiring foreign persons, saying, “To the best of my recollection, there is no law against hiring person of foreign nationality and TOC has not used nor received any foreign funding. So what is the Law Minister barking about?”
 
Only PAP can criticise other countries and interfere with their internal affairs?
 
He got a boring job everyday put his both legs up on the desk, then shake his 2 balls... that is norhing to do most of the time...

He get steamed up with this case and running about happy like Larry go barking at TX...
 
Can those maggots maggotess in white be trusted?
Anything they told us to be true? And MIWs even worse.

They engage FTs to do even worse things to Singapaoreans.
And to write such sweet lies about MIWs that make us all want to throw up!

Like that angmoh who whacked the guard unprovoked and given only a slap on the wrist.


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to what ever MIWs ever tell to us
 
Shanmugam warns of foreign interference in Singapore; questions agenda, funding of The Online Citizen
www.channelnewsasia.com

SINGAPORE: There have been “nascent attempts” to combine online and offline approaches of foreign interference in Singapore, Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam said on Wednesday (Sep 25).

One example, he said, was when Singapore political activists like Kirsten Han and Thum Ping Tjin met Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in August last year and urged him to bring democracy to Singapore and other countries.

The activists have also paired up with online news site The Online Citizen (TOC), Mr Shanmugam said, adding that the site employs foreigners including Malaysians to write “almost exclusively negative” articles on Singaporean social and political matters.

The minister was speaking at a conference on foreign interference, labelling attempts by one country to shape the actions and policies of another country as an “age-old” principle of international relations.

Offline forms of foreign interference, he said, include using diplomatic channels, agents of influence, the media, non-governmental organisations and cause-based movements.

However, Mr Shanmugam said foreign interference has adapted to modern technology, stressing that the Internet has made hostile information campaigns cheap, easy and effective, and that states must be able to tackle them as issues of sovereignty and national security.

In the conference titled Foreign Interference Tactics and Countermeasures organised by the S Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS), he reiterated that Singapore needed laws to deal with hostile information campaigns that might be orchestrated by foreign sources, stating that technology companies like Facebook cannot self-regulate due to conflicts of interest in their business model.

ONLINE, OFFLINE COMBINATION

This comes as some countries have been hit by an “extremely toxic, extremely powerful” combination of online and offline foreign interference, Mr Shanmugam said.

In Singapore’s case, Mr Shanmugam said Dr Thum and Ms Han had set up the New Naratif website, which he said is funded by a foreign foundation and has received other foreign contributions.

“Ms Han on video has said that Singapore has failed to compare with Hong Kong because 500,000 people don’t go on the streets to march,” he said, pointing out that Ms Han wants to change this through classes run by New Naratif.

“My primary point is: Is it right for foreign funding to be received in order to advance these viewpoints?” Mr Shanmugam added.

This is coupled with articles on TOC, some of which supported a call for Singaporean civil servants to follow Hong Kong’s protests and made allegations against Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. The latter article is the subject of a civil suit by Mr Lee.

Mr Shanmugam noted that a Malaysian woman named Rubaashini Shunmuganathan had written these two articles, pointing out that most readers would assume they were written by a genuine Singaporean contributor.

“I’m not commenting on the legal merits of the article since it’s the subject of a lawsuit. Only that a foreigner staying in Malaysia … has written many other articles to try and influence viewpoints in Singapore,” he said.

“Who controls her? Who pays her? What’s her purpose? These are all legitimate questions.”

Nevertheless, Mr Shanmugam said online news sites featuring anonymous writers could be found across the world, highlighting that they have been used by foreign countries to “attack and deepen divisions”.

“For all you know, (the writers) can be foreigners – as we see in the case of TOC – writing inflammatory stuff and have got no interest in social or political stability within the country,” he added.

“Their only interest is to get eyeballs, and perhaps if they are under the influence of other agencies, then there are other interests as well. It can easily be used as tools for foreign interests.”

LEGISLATION NEEDED

Mr Shamugam proceeded to reiterate the need for legislation in Singapore, pointing out that each country has a “sovereign right” to decide how to protect its national security interests.

These laws will be designed to counter foreign interference by allowing the Government to investigate and respond quickly to hostile information campaigns, including finding out the “provenance of content” and if or how much of it is foreign influenced.

“It will have to give the Government powers to make targeted, surgical interventions,” Mr Shanmugam said.

Other countries have passed similar laws, he said, highlighting how Germany’s Network Enforcement Act gives it powers to compel social networks to remove “obviously illegal” hate speech within 24 hours of receiving a notification or face fines.

“States cannot take a hands-off approach,” Mr Shanmugam said.

“The serious impact of hostile information campaigns on the social fabric, political sovereignty, peace, stability and national security has to be met head on. And it has to be met head on by states working with tech companies as partners.”
 
They can get funding from mars for we care...as long as they tell it as it is.

If the gahmen has really nothing to hide away from, why are they so panaroid about what is written as an opinion for others to digest?
 
This blame culture has been handed down from LKY to his Son and his ball carriers. It was the commie, than the Marxist, Religion, than the Neighboring countries, now, holding ur CPF, import of FT, up prices of hdb, change laws to protect Familee interest and latest Social Media. The only no blame culture is paying emselves Millions.
 
Shamugum is just so desperate.
Order from Pinky to shut down and smear TOC and Terry Xu.

I really don't know if Shamu is working for PAP pinky or Singapore.
 
Shamugum is just so desperate.
Order from Pinky to shut down and smear TOC and Terry Xu.

I really don't know if Shamu is working for PAP pinky or Singapore.

Definately not for Singapore or Singaporeans.
ALL OF THOSE IN PAP OR ASSOCIATED WITH PAP WORKING ONLY TO ENRICH THEMSELVES AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

BE VERY VERY VERY CLEAR ON THAT.

ONLY IN STINKAPORE UNDER THE DICTATORSHIP OF MAGGOTS MAGGOTESS IN WHITE CAN SUCH THINGS BE POSSIBLE

VOTE OUT ALL THE MAGGOTS MAGGOTESS IN WHITE



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Fake news law does not help the gahmen...now this new anti-foreigner interference tactics. What next if this does not also work for them?
 
the pap is very bad. so afriad for everything. they are weak....
 
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