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saying "na-ge" (那个) can cause a amdk professor to lose job???!!!. knn.. siao lang university

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Suspension of a US professor sparks debate over a Chinese word
By Kerry Allen BBC Monitoring
Prof Patton has been suspended since his 20 August seminar
Image copyright TwitterProfessor Patton has been suspended since his 20 August seminar

The suspension of a US university professor has ignited a debate over the use of a seemingly innocuous Chinese word.

Professor Greg Patton at the University of Southern California (USC) was telling students in a communications lecture last month about filler, or pause words, such as 'err', 'umm' or 'you know' in English.

Footage of his lecture, which has now gone viral, shows Prof Patton saying: "In China, the common pause word is 'that, that, that'. So in China, it might be na-ge, na-ge, na-ge."

Annunciated, na-ge sounds like the N-word, which led several of the professor's students to complain to the university. Responding to the complaint, the dean of the university, Geoffrey Garrett, told students that Prof Patton would no longer be teaching the course.

"It is simply unacceptable for the faculty to use words in class that can marginalize, hurt and harm the psychological safety of our students," he said.

News of the spat reached China, where many posted on social media saying they thought Prof Patton's punishment, conversely, was discrimination against speakers of the Chinese language.

Lost in translation

In Chinese the word "na-ge" (那个) is a common filler phrase that people use when they're hesitating or trying to find the right word. It literally translates to the word "that".

But there have been many documented incidents of the word being used innocuously and leading to misunderstandings, and even violence.

In July 2016, a fight broke out on the subway in the city of Southern Guangzhou, after a black man heard a Chinese man saying na-ge and mistook it for the N-word.

Footage went viral online showing the black man slapping the Chinese commuter and shouting "you dare try that again" and "never say that again"

More recently, in April this year, Taiwanese news website UDN reported that two men nearly came to blows on the island outside a restaurant over the same misunderstanding.

Even Chinese basketball star Yao Ming has spoken of how the word brought him "some trouble" while playing in the US for the National Basketball Association (NBA).

'A universal mistake'
CC Chen, a student at the USC, defended Prof Patton, arguing that it was "clearly an academic lecture on communication" and the professor was "describing a universal mistake commonly made in communication".

"For him to be censored simply because a Chinese word sounds like an English pejorative term is a mistake and is not appropriate, especially given the educational setting," she said. "It also dismisses the fact that Chinese is a real language and has its own pronunciations that have no relation to English."

More than 11,000 people have now signed a Change.org petition calling for Prof Patton to be re-instated. And in China there are discussions taking place over whether the university acted too abruptly.

On the popular Sina Weibo microblog, more than 1,000 posts have used the hashtag #USProfessorSuspendedForUsingNaGe, with many viewing the move as a suppression of Chinese speech.

One post called the incident a "contemporary version of the literary inquisition" - referring to the persecution of intellectuals during China's imperial era.

What began as an accusation against the professor of using discriminatory language has morphed, in China, into accusations of discrimination against the Chinese language.

"Is it now forbidden to speak Chinese in the United States?" asked one Sina Weibo user.

'It's about politics'

In recent months, many in China have expressed solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement in the US. China itself has been on the receiving end of racist sentiment from America, stoked by the highest official in the nation, President Donald Trump, who has called coronavirus the "China virus", "Wuhan virus", and even "Kung Flu".

His language has been regularly cited by Chinese media as an example of xenophobic attitudes towards the Chinese people.

Chinese have shown solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement
Image copyright Getty ImagesChinese have shown solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement

Some Chinese posters on Sina Weibo argued that USC, in suspending Prof Patton, had chosen "political correctness" over genuine change. Others raised a note of optimism that the story would raise awareness of differences rather than marginalise them.

Many were of the view that shared discrimination in recent months meant that Asian and black communities should work to understand each other rather than fight against one another.

"There should be respect for differences," wrote one Weibo user.
Back in the US, USC staff and students reacted to the decision to suspend Prof Patton.

"There's no language superior to the other," Chengyan Wu, Co-President of USC Chinese Student and Scholar Association, told the university's student news organisation.

"Restating the rights of one minority group should not be at the expense of violating the other," he said. "We have the right to use our own language."
 
CECA beauty teaching kids English.



Life is more fun when we're politically incorrect, no need to tread on eggshells. No one has a sacrosanct right to not get offended. :cool:
 
He is fired for pronouncing Nigger as 那个。He should just called a nigger a nigger and this would be OK.
 
CECA beauty teaching kids English.



Life is more fun when we're politically incorrect, no need to tread on eggshells. No one has a sacrosanct right to not get offended. :cool:

Nothing wrong since CECAs are singing about themselves. They are Niggers too.
 
CECA beauty teaching kids English.



Life is more fun when we're politically incorrect, no need to tread on eggshells. No one has a sacrosanct right to not get offended. :cool:
Song is about Indians they are in denial. :rolleyes:
 
Amdks Should all come to sinkieland to see employment as they are worshipped like god by sinkies.
 
Dun understand why saying nigger is a insult?!

Its like a amdk calling me a yellow monkey and laughing out loud beside me waiting for me to shout at him and be angry... and i am like "WTF?! Am i suppose to feel angry?"

Dun understand why people has to be angry to simple insult like this... When we hokkien scold knn is f ur mom.... way worse than something like yellow monkey which is like a drop of water into a sea...

Stupid black lives matter keep complaining them being killed... its like mafia come keep complaining why police keep kill them...
 
Dun understand why saying nigger is a insult?!

Its like a amdk calling me a yellow monkey and laughing out loud beside me waiting for me to shout at him and be angry... and i am like "WTF?! Am i suppose to feel angry?"

Dun understand why people has to be angry to simple insult like this... When we hokkien scold knn is f ur mom.... way worse than something like yellow monkey which is like a drop of water into a sea...

Stupid black lives matter keep complaining them being killed... its like mafia come keep complaining why police keep kill them...

Welcome to the world of liberal snowflakes, social justice warriors, political correctness, 'woke' cancel culture etc.

Sinkieland had a sneak preview of that in the outrage against the E-pay ad brownface.
 
Stupid chinese language gets people in trouble. What's nei-ger in hokkien? Use that instead!
 
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