Russian Civil War Thread June 2023

[winners]

Prigozhin is "retreating" to Belarus which means the Wagner group is now openly advancing towards Kiev?

Giving your senseless assumptions again as usual. Only Prigozhin is reported to be in exiled in Belarus. His troops are asked to return to their base camps in Southern Russia. It's already reported that Prigozhin is bound to return for revenge on Bloodymir Putin if the Russian military is not reorganized, especially if Sergei Shoigu is still in charge.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Where is Prigozhin & his well armed 27,000 troops now?

In war, nothing can be assumed or presumed. Only facts & acting upon facts can success be achieved.

For reasons only known to mainstream media, RUS & Intel agencies, they know but are not telling. It's not difficult to figure out by anyone sane.

The mercenary unit is mobile & was within 2hrs to Moscow before turning back after a deal was reach.

If Belarus was the promised land for their survival, they would had long arrived.

In reality, the cautious group is somewhere hiding in southern RUS border, scattered in defensive positions but within reach should one unit be attacked, considering its options in the meantime
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Although the Chechens are well known fierce fightets, they only numbered 12,000 sent by Moscow to stop the mercenary advance. It is also telling of how stretched out the so called mighty army of RUS.

Such event had happened in Humankind history before. It reminds one of Spartacus' challenge to a REAL mighty empire - Rome, though none sane should equate Prigozhin.to Spartacus...

 

[saynotomsm]

Giving your senseless assumptions again as usual. Only Prigozhin is reported to be in exiled in Belarus. His troops are asked to return to their base camps in Southern Russia. It's already reported that Prigozhin is bound to return for revenge on Bloodymir Putin if the Russian military is not reorganized, especially if Sergei Shoigu is still in charge.

 

[winners]

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Please lah, this kind of news is highly unreliable. Only fools like you will follow them blindly.

You should only post links here which are directly from the horse's mouth, understand? Oh, I forgot you don't even dare to post your links here since many are from Tiktok and all those rubbish and unsubstantiated sources, but instead from your collection of videos from your Opera Mini browser in your mobile.

 

[saynotomsm]

Please lah, this kind of news is highly unreliable. Only fools like you will follow them blindly.

You should only post links here which are directly from the horse's mouth, understand? Oh, I forgot you don't even dare to post your links here since many are from Tiktok and all those rubbish and unsubstantiated sources, but instead from your collection of videos from your Opera Mini browser in your mobile.

3.51min to 4.15min

Wagner group are allowed to join the Russia MOD, other authorities, go back to their family or go to Belarus. All promises given will be fulfilled, the choice will be up to them.

Seems like my mini opera browser was able to capture a longer video feed than BBC.

 

[yinyang]

Alen Lauzán
27 June 2023

Russian Bear​

 

[Loofydralb]

You do not read Putin correctly.
He is not a tyrant. He will forgive Prigozhin for all his contributions since 2014 and his hard victories in Ukraine.
Russians owe a big debt to Wagner.

Sputnik report:

The meeting lasted about three hours, there were 35 people in total, including commanders of Wagner Group detachments. The president gave his assessment of what had transpired and offered the Wagner representatives employment options. The commanders told Putin that they are his staunch supporters and ready to continue fighting for Russia.

 

[Loofydralb]

You do not read Putin correctly.
He is not a tyrant. He will forgive Prigozhin for all his contributions since 2014 and his hard victories in Ukraine.
Russians owe a big debt to Wagner.

Am I not right again?

 

[Loofydralb]

Exactly as predicted.

 

[eatshitndie]

tiagong the “prigo” who met putin in moscow was a double. intell sources claimed the real prigo is already minced meat.

 

[Loofydralb]

tiagong the “prigo” who met putin in moscow was a double. intell sources claimed the real prigo is already minced meat.

Wrong again. Prigozhin has a unique talent. He will take some rest, then continue his work for Russia in Africa. But this time he will have the direct line to Putin's ears.

 

[Willamshakespear]

tiagong the “prigo” who met putin in moscow was a double. intell sources claimed the real prigo is already minced meat.

It is not so easy to use a 'double' as portrayed in movies.

1. Even in this age of Artificial Intelligence, AI can't mimic the MANNERISMS of an individual in a video, nor a 'double' in person. The way one greets, smile, BODY LANGUAGE, will give away the real from the fake in person & even in video. Those whom are close to him, especially his family & his organization that had work closely with him will know & spread the word.

2. It had been reported that PrezPutin will take over the Wagner group. If so, there would be a huge staff turnover within the org, from HQ to its regional offices. Prigozhin would have ensured only those loyal to him, known to him for years, would be promoted, & for sure after the rebellion, PrezPutin would NOT want those in mgmt loyal to Prigozhin to be around - from the CFO, accountants, legal team right down to even office clerks. Such would be clues to IF PrezPutin had taken over.

3. The Wagner group works just like any other Multi-National Corporation, with Hierarchy Structures in management, & at the top, the one who 'signs' the cheques for salaries or compensation is Prigozhin. Only he has the official 'signature' or any other 'verification codes' to authorize the release of such funds. Should he be dead, NO funds will be release by banks, even RUS banks, & for sure, his 'double' will never know such codes.

Signature & authorization for release of bank funds can be over-ridden for National Security purposes, furthermore, RUS under the current govt is far from being an exact Rule of Law nation. Worse, should PrezPutin had taken over the Wagner group, such funds for that org will come directly from the RUS budget.

Although its parliament - the Duma - is nothing more than a rubber stamping legislative, PrezPutin close advisors will balk at the huge funds spent for the Wagner group, more so when the RUS economy is close to collapse. If they had agreed to such expenses, the RUS govt would had offered the SAME deal long ago to the mercenaries, which both the mercenaries & the RUS govt disagreed that was a major cause of the rebellion.

The point is - is Prigozhin alive today or dead? Only thru meticulous research, shifting thru clues, will one knows at least within a few weeks. Regardless if Prigozhin is dead or alive, another will take his place, to rule over barbaric savage mercenaries, which is 'playing with fire', that the gulf nations fortunately realized not too late. with ISIS.

The RUS govt is in a mess right now. The brutal UKR invasion by RUS had failed by its failure to conquer UKR within 3 mths. With such delusions that it can still win victory, came the consequences in socio-economic & military disorder. There is a Chinese saying with such attempts - ten burning & spilling fire urns but only 9 covers to put out the fire. In this case of RUS invasion, sadly, it is more like only one cover to put out ten burning spilling fire urns.....

 

[eatshitndie]

Wrong again. Prigozhin has a unique talent. He will take some rest, then continue his work for Russia in Africa. But this time he will have the direct line to Putin's ears.

wagner is kaput. kremlin has dismantled the wagnerites, and prigo’s legacy is now nowhere to be seen even at wagnerites’ graveyard. wagner pmc’s wreaths are removed from the graveyard and replaced with “dragon’s teeth” which are the new kremlin symbol for militarism in ukraine. to add insult to injury, the wreaths are piled up like garbage waiting for disposal. this is propaganda photos directly from the kremlin. and “putin” is not even mentioned in the propaganda release, which can mean he’s no longer in full control.

 

[Loofydralb]

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wagner is kaput. kremlin has dismantled the wagnerites, and prigo’s legacy is now nowhere to be seen even at wagnerites’ graveyard. wagner pmc’s wreaths are removed from the graveyard and replaced with “dragon’s teeth” which are the new kremlin symbol for militarism in ukraine. to add insult to injury, the wreaths are piled up like garbage waiting for disposal. this is propaganda photos directly from the kremlin. and “putin” is not even mentioned in the propaganda release, which can mean he’s no longer in full control.
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So low quality propaganda pics and stories?

 

[eatshitndie]

So low quality propaganda pics and stories?

from the kremlin. kremlin is known for low quality propaganda.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

from the kremlin. kremlin is known for low quality propaganda.

Beware the russkies maskirovka

 

[eatshitndie]

Beware the russkies maskirovka

source of photos is from vot-tak.tv and “kremlin propaganda outlets”.
https://news.yahoo.com/surovikin-pyramids-installed-wagnerites-graves-132300563.html

 

[Hypocrite-The]

source of photos is from vot-tak.tv and “kremlin propaganda outlets”.
https://news.yahoo.com/surovikin-pyramids-installed-wagnerites-graves-132300563.html

‘Surovikin’s Pyramids’ installed on Wagnerites’ graves – photo
Wed, July 12, 2023 at 9:23 PM GMT+8·1 min read
In this article:
Yevgeny Prigozhin
Russian oligarch
Wreaths adorned with the symbols of the Wagner PMC were removed from the mercenaries’ graves
Wreaths adorned with the symbols of the Wagner PMC were removed from the mercenaries’ graves More
Black pyramids resembling the “Dragons’ teeth” used by Russia to create the so-called “Surovikin defensive line” are now used to mark the graves of Wagner mercenaries at a cemetery the company owns, Russian media have reported.

The corresponding photos, showing graves marked with pyramids instead of the customary crosses or monuments, were published by Kremlin propaganda outlets.

According to reports, the images were captured at one of the most well-known cemeteries for Wagner mercenaries in Stanitsa Bakinskaya, Krasnodar Krai, Russia.

<span class="copyright">vot-tak.tv</span>
vot-tak.tv
Meanwhile, wreaths adorned with the symbols of the Wagner PMC, led by Wagner mercenary company owner Yevgeny Prigozhin, who has apparently fallen out of favor with Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin following a failed military coup, were removed from the mercenaries’ graves and gathered in a large heap.

<span class="copyright">vot-tak.tv</span>
vot-tak.tv
Simultaneously, in other burial sites of the deceased Wagner mercenaries in Ukraine, unidentified individuals have started removing the flags that were previously erected there.

Wagner itself, under the leadership of Prigozhin, has temporarily suspended the operations of its recruitment headquarters following the failure of Prigozhin’s coup attempt.

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Yevgeny Prigozhin
Russian oligarch

 

[eatshitndie]

‘Surovikin’s Pyramids’ installed on Wagnerites’ graves – photo
Wed, July 12, 2023 at 9:23 PM GMT+8·1 min read
In this article:
Yevgeny Prigozhin
Russian oligarch
Wreaths adorned with the symbols of the Wagner PMC were removed from the mercenaries&#x002019; graves
Wreaths adorned with the symbols of the Wagner PMC were removed from the mercenaries’ graves More
Black pyramids resembling the “Dragons’ teeth” used by Russia to create the so-called “Surovikin defensive line” are now used to mark the graves of Wagner mercenaries at a cemetery the company owns, Russian media have reported.

The corresponding photos, showing graves marked with pyramids instead of the customary crosses or monuments, were published by Kremlin propaganda outlets.

According to reports, the images were captured at one of the most well-known cemeteries for Wagner mercenaries in Stanitsa Bakinskaya, Krasnodar Krai, Russia.

<span class="copyright">vot-tak.tv</span>
vot-tak.tv
Meanwhile, wreaths adorned with the symbols of the Wagner PMC, led by Wagner mercenary company owner Yevgeny Prigozhin, who has apparently fallen out of favor with Kremlin dictator Vladimir Putin following a failed military coup, were removed from the mercenaries’ graves and gathered in a large heap.

<span class="copyright">vot-tak.tv</span>
vot-tak.tv
Simultaneously, in other burial sites of the deceased Wagner mercenaries in Ukraine, unidentified individuals have started removing the flags that were previously erected there.

Wagner itself, under the leadership of Prigozhin, has temporarily suspended the operations of its recruitment headquarters following the failure of Prigozhin’s coup attempt.

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Yevgeny Prigozhin
Russian oligarch

forget the voice of ukraine. must go to kremlin media sources to verify. bottak. like going bald.
https://vot-tak.tv/
specific link:
https://vot-tak.tv/novosti/11-07-2023-obratnoj-dorogi-net
После несостоявшегося мятежа Евгения Пригожина судьба «вагнеровских» кладбищ оказалась под вопросом: продолжат ли они существование и уберут ли символику ЧВК с надгробий. Корреспондентка «Вот Так» съездила в станицу Бакинскую Краснодарского края, где находится самое известное захоронение, и узнала, повлияла ли попытка переворота на планы по его благоустройству.

Воскресным днем на кладбище хмурые рабочие занимаются благоустройством могил. Вместо деревянных крестов с табличками на месте захоронений устанавливают серые гранитные надгробия в виде пирамид, похожие на противотанковые надолбы, известные как «зубы дракона». На каждом из них — имена, фамилии, даты рождения и смерти, а также символика ЧВК «Вагнер». Из-за благоустройства одного из секторов часть венков с символикой ЧВК, которые раньше были на могилах, убрали и свалили в кучу в дальнем углу.

По словам одного из рабочих, они сделали дренажную систему для отвода воды — кладбище во время дождей часто затапливает. «Сейчас будем трамбовать [землю], потом — газон стелить. Автополив, видите, сделали», — говорит он.

 

[Loofydralb]

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And you really believe this?

Be more discerning my friend. You can do better.