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Ris Low's language abilities are representative of the population.

Porfirio Rubirosa

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an interesting alternative take on ris by blogger 'sam's thoughts':

The Low Blow on Ris: It is trendy not to give credit to others

Amazing. I mean. Outstanding.

Ris Low has drawn flak and harsh criticism in cyberspace for her poor diction, basically her poor English. Since the YouTube video has been taken down, you can give SPH's RazorTV the visits they need at http://www.razor.tv/site/servlet/segment/main/lifestyle/32776.html. If you're not too visual a person, you may want to check out The New Paper's report.

Firstly, I would like to say that when people (this time, a large number of people) start criticising, they reveal more about themselves rather than the person they are criticising.

What is revealed is our bias towards a certain kind of representation/ambassador of Singapore. Yes, we do not like Singaporeans with apparently broken English to carry our flag. We want women with education, or a certain class (in almost every sense), to represent our nation.

But the reality is, in doing so, we further invisibilise other segments of the community, who may not have the upbringing or opportunities that endow them with good English.

It is obvious to me that the English language may not be the primary language of Ris Low. There are many Singaporeans whose primary (and comfortable) language isn't English. Why should we be ashamed of this? Is there anything wrong with this?

Why should our local pageant winners speak fluent English when they could speak better in another language? Maybe their ideas and messages would not become diluted or distorted by their otherwise limited vocabulary and/or poor diction.

Ris Low could have done the interview in another language, but at least she is the one who is trying.

Singaporeans, so disempowered and generally impotent in many areas, are just too quick to deny credit to people who try.

I get mocked for speaking poor and broken Mandarin, but I still try. And recently, I tried speaking Mandarin to a taxi driver, who told me to continue speaking Mandarin and "heck care" people who react in a mocking way to me.

Others: Sam, you're Chinese. Why don't you speak Chinese?
Sam: (It's Mandarin, fuckwit) Ke yi. Wo .... bla bla bla bla Mandarin stuff....
Others: Ok. I think you better don't speak Chinese. Ha ha.

Whether this is said trivially or seriously, it reveals how trendy it is not to give credit to fellow Singaporeans.

As reported in The New Paper, one interviewee asked critics to put their money where they mouth is: Join a pageant and see for yourself.

I share that sentiment, but feel that is a little unfair, considering everyone has different talents and comforts.

I can say that doing interviews require some degree of experience and PR savvy. I do feel nervous when I am interviewed by the press. Sometimes, simple questions become tough questions, and other times, I distort my intended message with some fluffs. People do that. It is very much similar to unscripted public speaking, or scripted public speaking and presentations.

What is more important is how the criticism reveals our society and the people we are.

We are apparently ashamed of other breeds of Singaporeans. We want to dust the broken English-speaking folks under the carpet. We want a quarter Chinese, quarter Malay, quarter Indian, quarter Eurasian girl to represent us, not some alleged "Ah Lian". Why? Because we are uncomfortable with what we see are the "imperfections" of our society - apparent "Ah Lian" subculture/aesthetics, poor English and all that.

So what if her pronunciation is atrocious and comical? There are so many Singaporeans who speak like that too - pronouncing "fifteen" as "feev-tin": "EE"s are not stressed, "k"s become "g"s, "r"s become "l"s. So what? These reflect their position and socialisation, and why are the rest of us ashamed of it?

It is not as if they are lying, preaching hate, or revealing how evil they are.

I used to be critical of Singaporean representatives, asking "How the fuck these guys/girls get to represent Singapore?"

But now, I ask myself the standards and criteria I use to determine what is right. And I realise how my prejudices, both personal as well as informed by socialisation, play a huge role in how I think.

Sure, a woman like Ris Low is definitely not aesthetically appealing to me, not because she is ugly, but that judgement is due to individual taste. I realise, perhaps given my exposure to media and socialisation into various English-speaking Singaporean (sub)cultures, that Ris Low will fall outside what I like as a woman, and national representative. There is a cultural and social class dimension to all these, but of course, people do not like to self-interrogate, and that is why we probably have religion.

Yes, I support Ris Low, not because of Ris Low, but because the criticism is stupid and reveals how stupid and insecure we all are. Maybe Ris Low is the unintended performance artist who draws out reactions from all of us to reveal the condition of our society and psyche.
 

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If she is excusable, then everybody should be a beauty queen or manhunt champion.

Not really. Beauty is more important. Those who can speak well but are ugly, cannot hope to be admitted much less qualify. If ugly and articulate girls and guys can enter then yes, everyone is a beauty queen and a manhunt champion, including you of course.

Generally parents fret when their daughters are ugly, no matter how smart they are or how good their English is. They become a greater liability.
 

SamuelStalin

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Firstly, I would like to say that when people (this time, a large number of people) start criticising, they reveal more about themselves rather than the person they are criticising.

This is very true. This is something Sporn fucks don't get all the time. They are idiots, they are ugly, stupid and worthless and they are fit to criticize others? What a joke!

Hmm, so who wrote this?
 

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There is something wrong with this girl. I suspect that she is physically tongued tied thus she struggles with words. Typically kids that are tongue tied go for an operation where the underlying fleash below the tongue is snipped.

Not many are aware that they are tongue tied unless someone knowledeagble points it out.

No one speaks like that.
 

FuckSamLeong

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This woman is saying people like her are making big sacrifices for our nation.

From Reader Siti Norlia Ahmad

Words of support from a fellow beauty queen

It's not easy to represent a nation

I refer to the cover story "Why so mean to our beauty queen?" (The New Paper on Sunday 30 Aug).

I congratulate Ris Low for being crowned Miss Singapore World 2009. And to the netizens who gave her their support, thank you.

I represented Singapore as Mrs. Worldwide International 2008 in the Queen of Hope International Pageant in the US last month.

From among the 35 finalists, I emerged the winner for the title of Queen of Hope International Ambassador 2009-2010.

I came home with not only lots of sweet memories, but also a load of responsibilities.

But, even when we wear the sash that bears the title, we are just ordinary women who have ambitions, dreams, careers, activities, friends and families. And we are not exceptional, having flaws like any other humans on earth.
It is never easy to juggle our lives and represent the nation. Meeting our own expectations is tough at times, let alone meeting the expectations of so many others.

Singapore has made it to the top 10 at the Miss Universe twice, in 1883 represented by Kathie Lee and in 1987 represented by Marion Teo.

Singapore is known for it's multiracial citizens. We have multilingual and colourful backgrounds, customs,and traditions.

If Miss low is criticized for her poor diction and other minor imperfections, what about other contestants who can't even speak English and need a translator?


Singapore has made a mark in the world but strong. This boils down to standing united in our imperfections.

We need support when we travel thousands of miles to stand in a totally different land to represent our country, And we often do this alone and surrounded by strangers.

To my fellow netizens, my apologies if we have let you down in any way with the little imperfections in representing the nation.

Alone, and without the sash and crown, we are just ordinary Asian women.

Yes, we have accepted the recognition, glamour, opportunities and privileges that come from winning the title, but behind all those, there is also a heavy price tag.

We need to uphold graciousness, project good examples through volunteering and charity work, which means often being away from those we love.

Our time is often taken away too from our careers, activities, hobbies and ambitions.

And with all these, would it be fair to further penalise us simply for our imperfections?
So we seek your compassion and understanding.
 

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SamuelStalin

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There is something wrong with this girl. I suspect that she is physically tongued tied thus she struggles with words. Typically kids that are tongue tied go for an operation where the underlying fleash below the tongue is snipped.

Not many are aware that they are tongue tied unless someone knowledeagble points it out.

No one speaks like that.

Most girls aren't really tongue tied when they suck cocks? That's all they need to do. Education on them is a waste of money, and when they get to talk they either yak all day or they try to talk like pseudo-intellectual cunts that is nothing but annoying.

Understand you stupid half-screwed penis dog?
 

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The shit times has hit a new low in their coverage of this silly issue. I cannot believe they took the angle of scolding sg people and pointing the finger back at them... because THIS IS NOT THE POINT.

The points are:

1. A Ms singapore should not represent the average, she should be polished and the best possible candidate. The organisers have failed to find a decent represenative.

2. It begs the question of what went behind the scenes to get Ris selected. The spokesperson betrayed a gross ignorance of beauty pageant standards by saying ' it's all about looks and figure only. who cares how she talks??'

3. If a paper in a 1st world country talks to its readers like the shit times, they'd be boycotted long ago and all editors sacked! :oIo:
 

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I am amazed at how the papers can hit back the those that critics about Ris Low's language...
To think there were complaints about PCK and his broken english, even most recent, condemning mark lee and his poor English in English sitcoms...
So if those artistes have to watch their language on screen, aren't our Ms Singapore representative have to be even more mindful of how she speak...
Kaoz... she is going to represent us in a world event... and if she speaks like that.. what image is she showing...
Try asking our foreign minster to talk like that lor...

Seriously.. thumbs down to the papers!!
 

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I am amazed at how the papers can hit back the those that critics about Ris Low's language...
To think there were complaints about PCK and his broken english, even most recent, condemning mark lee and his poor English in English sitcoms...
So if those artistes have to watch their language on screen, aren't our Ms Singapore representative have to be even more mindful of how she speak...
Kaoz... she is going to represent us in a world event... and if she speaks like that.. what image is she showing...
Try asking our foreign minster to talk like that lor...

Seriously.. thumbs down to the papers!!

The papers are correct. It is nothing wrong to attack critics as they are dogs who can't look at their own fucking selves in the mirror.

Judge not, lest you be judged. Understand Sporn fucks? Should I shout it into your fucking ears huh? Hello? HELLO?

Ugly, stupid and worthless Sporn fucks.
 

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PERSONAL INFORMATION
Name : Yi Min LOW
Age : 19
Height : 172
Languages : Mandarin, English & Hokkien

BIOGRAPHY
Yi Min describes her country as clean and green with many races and cultures. She is currently studying for a diploma in travel, tourism and hospitality but previously worked as a nurse which gave her valuable experience. She describes herself as confident and composed and enjoys reading horror novels. Yi Min’s hobbies include playing volleyball, swimming and running cross country whilst her personal motto is “Acts of kindness can warm three winters”.
 

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read my previous post above

The papers are correct. It is nothing wrong to attack critics as they are dogs who can't look at their own fucking selves in the mirror.

Judge not, lest you be judged. Understand Sporn fucks? Should I shout it into your fucking ears huh? Hello? HELLO?

Ugly, stupid and worthless Sporn fucks.
 

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I am amazed at how the papers can hit back the those that critics about Ris Low's language...
To think there were complaints about PCK and his broken english, even most recent, condemning mark lee and his poor English in English sitcoms...
So if those artistes have to watch their language on screen, aren't our Ms Singapore representative have to be even more mindful of how she speak...
Kaoz... she is going to represent us in a world event... and if she speaks like that.. what image is she showing...
Try asking our foreign minster to talk like that lor...

Seriously.. thumbs down to the papers!!

The labour minister is the closest I think, I cringed the moment he starts speaking - same reaction as this Ms Low. I totally agree with what you've said. I think her main problem is she is paying too much attention to looking pretty, trying too hard to impress till she has totally forgotten how she is going to say about what she is going to say - if anything at all.
 
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