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Right on track!

Well, put it this way. Our doctor did not take the mRNA. So?

And when I put a mirror in front of you, you too are in a two-bit sex forum. So? At least he is the manager.
Dont know if you referring to me.

But I have taken 2 Pfizer shots. Fully vaccinated. Did not die from vaccine unfortunately. Maybe still got hope.
 
Apples and Oranges here...

Our health care system is at risk...that is the unfortunate consequence...
Health care system.

Get rid of it. End of problems.

Everyone can go back to work and catch covid and die. Or everyone can stay at home and die of starvation.

If not for the healthcare system you guys will all be in deep shit all around.

If not for the healthcare system the stock market wont be at record highs.

But what do people think about healthcare? It is shit. It is a hoax. It is evil pharma. It is money grabbing. All the fucking nonsense.
 
Dont know if you referring to me.

But I have taken 2 Pfizer shots. Fully vaccinated. Did not die from vaccine unfortunately. Maybe still got hope.
I think these imbeciles are referring to their doctor Sam.
 
I think these imbeciles are referring to their doctor Sam.

LOL! If so, see what I mean?

I seriously wish the healthcare system had collapsed and there was no more medicine in the world.

Let all these so called self proclaimed, peer declared doctors become the doctors.
 
LOL! If so, see what I mean?

I seriously wish the healthcare system had collapsed and there was no more medicine in the world.

Let all these so called self proclaimed, peer declared doctors become the doctors.
Have faith good man! Hope is not lost. The majority of us are still sane and believe in the sanctity of the doctor-patient relationship. :thumbsup:
 
Have faith good man! Hope is not lost. The majority of us are still sane and believe in the sanctity of the doctor-patient relationship. :thumbsup:

I disagree with you. You are the minority. The very elderly people above age 70. Yes they still respect dr-patient relationship. Anyone below that age group chances are very high you find they trust Dr Google above everything. And rightfully so.

Most people hate doctors.

I lost hope way back in 2004.

Things have only gotten worse.

Maybe one day there will be a virus so deadly and infectious and small that absolutely no PPE or measures work against the spread except for total isolation.

All the doctors and nurses will die in the hospital and clinics. Including myself. The world will be left without healthcare or personal care. Everyone on their own.

Since everybody is so damn smart themselves and can just google and find whatever treatment they want and more importantly LIKE. Natural. Pharma. Energy. Faith. Whatever.

GO FOR IT WORLD!
 
I disagree with you. You are the minority. The very elderly people above age 70. Yes they still respect dr-patient relationship. Anyone below that age group chances are very high you find they trust Dr Google above everything. And rightfully so.

Most people hate doctors.

I lost hope way back in 2004.

Things have only gotten worse.

Maybe one day there will be a virus so deadly and infectious and small that absolutely no PPE or measures work against the spread except for total isolation.

All the doctors and nurses will die in the hospital and clinics. Including myself. The world will be left without healthcare or personal care. Everyone on their own.

Since everybody is so damn smart themselves and can just google and find whatever treatment they want and more importantly LIKE. Natural. Pharma. Energy. Faith. Whatever.

GO FOR IT WORLD!
my proctologist, desi doctoress yoni shuckyalingam is very good and dependable, and i’m indebted to her.
 
my proctologist, desi doctoress yoni shuckyalingam is very good and dependable, and i’m indebted to her.

Write her a Christmas Card come this Christmas. Put in a $20 gift card, Starbucks or Costco or whatever.

Just say thank you for the care you gave me. I am indebted to you. Please continue your good work serving your patients. I want you to know my appreciation for the help you gave me.

I learned this from my time working at Scott Land and Lease Ltd.

Being appreciated is something we all want to feel. And too often nobody says it.

It is not about money. Of course having some extra would not harm anything.

I am often told that as doctors we earn high income so there is NO NEED for this sort of show of appreciation.

Well I beg to differ. These days doctors make pittance income compared to the bankers and lawyers. And like I said it is not about money.

I miss the days when my boss would tell me I am doing a good job.
 
Nope you said you took moderna

No I took both Pfizer.

Initially thought it might be moderna for 2nd shot. But was Pfizer in the end for both shots.

The 2nd shot was a bit funny. The pharmacy in the same shopping block as our bb tea shop came to tell my staff(my kids) that they have extra Pfizer shots anyone wants? My wife and I just came home from hiking that Saturday. We decided to just quickly get it done. So drove to the pharmacy and got the shots.

We gave the pharmacy owner and his kids free BB tea as thanks.

https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/my...ummers-to-make-some-money.251295/post-3424257
 
Write her a Christmas Card come this Christmas. Put in a $20 gift card, Starbucks or Costco or whatever.

Just say thank you for the care you gave me. I am indebted to you. Please continue your good work serving your patients. I want you to know my appreciation for the help you gave me.

I learned this from my time working at Scott Land and Lease Ltd.

Being appreciated is something we all want to feel. And too often nobody says it.

It is not about money. Of course having some extra would not harm anything.

I am often told that as doctors we earn high income so there is NO NEED for this sort of show of appreciation.

Well I beg to differ. These days doctors make pittance income compared to the bankers and lawyers. And like I said it is not about money.

I miss the days when my boss would tell me I am doing a good job.

@eatshitndie

Oh wait....

I just remembered......

The regulatory professional body says cannot accept any gifts from patients. Will constitute ethics breach, conflict of interest blah blah blah.

So likely the Dr will return the Xmas card to you.

Fucked up right this profession? ie BOSS.

WHO THE FUCK WANT TO WORK FOR THIS KIND OF BOSS?

"A conflict of interest can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship."

https://cpsa.ca/physicians/standards-of-practice/conflict-of-interest/

Under Review: No
Issued by Council (Conflict of Interest Involving Personal or Financial Gain by Physicians): January 1, 2010
Reissued by Council (Conflict of Interest): Jan. 1, 2021; October 2015

Note: a glossary of terms can be found at the end of this document. Glossary terms are indicated in teal with a “G” throughout this document.
  1. A conflict of interest may arise where a reasonable person could believe that a regulated member’s duty to act in the patient’s best interests may be affected or influenced by other competing interests, including financial, non-financial, direct, or indirect transactions with patients or others. A conflict of interest—real, potential or perceived—can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship[1].
  2. A regulated member must resolve any real, potential or perceived conflict of interest in the best interest of the patient.
  3. A regulated member must:
    1. make full, frank and timely disclosure of any real, potential or perceived conflict of interest to the patient;
    2. document the details of the disclosure made to the patient in the patient’s record; and
    3. comply with clause (2) regardless of whether the regulated member has obtained consent from the patient to remain in the conflict of interest.
  4. A regulated member must not:
    1. accept or offer commissions, rebates, fees, gifts or other inducementsG related to patient referrals or devices, appliances, supplies, pharmaceuticals, diagnostic procedures or therapeutic services;
    2. seek or accept any benefit for a referral, service or product provided by another regulated professional to a patient, other than for services provided by a partner, associate, employee or locum of the regulated member;
    3. offer an inducement to another regulated professional conditional on providing a referral, service or product to a patient, whether or not such referral, service or product is medically appropriate; or
    4. encourage another person to offer or accept an inducement conditional on providing a referral, service or product to a patient, whether or not such referral, service or product is medically appropriate.
  5. A regulated member must notrefer a patient to any facility or healthcare business separate and apart from the regulated member’s medical practice in which the regulated member has a direct or indirect financial interest unless there are no viable alternatives to meet the patient’s needs and the following conditions are all met:
    1. any benefit the regulated member receives due to their financial interest is based on the regulated member’s financial contribution or effort provided to that facility and not on the volume of patient referrals or other business from the regulated member;
    2. there are no terms or conditions that require the regulated member to make referrals to the facility or otherwise generate business for the facility; and
    3. the regulated member fully discloses the interest they have in the facility or healthcare business to the patient prior to the referral.

Glossary

Conflict of interest: a conflict of interest may arise where a reasonable person could believe that a regulated member’s duty to act in the patient’s best interests may be affected or influenced by other competing interests, including financial, non-financial, direct, or indirect transactions with patients or others. A conflict of interest can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship. (From CPSO’s Relationships with Industry practice standard)
Inducements: anything that persuades or influences someone to do something.
 
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A conflict of interest can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship.

So if a doctor himself or herself cannot be confident their professional judgment is not being influenced then how can a doctor be confident in any judgment at all?

I really find this sort of regulation demeaning and insulting.

It is no wonder patients find it hard to trust their doctors.

Seriously. And I mean very seriously.

You give your doctor a Xmas card with $20 Starbucks card and how is that going to impact or influence their professional judgment to the point it will cause you HARM?

Seriously?
 
@eatshitndie

Oh wait....

I just remembered......

The regulatory professional body says cannot accept any gifts from patients. Will constitute ethics breach, conflict of interest blah blah blah.

So likely the Dr will return the Xmas card to you.

Fucked up right this profession? ie BOSS.

WHO THE FUCK WANT TO WORK FOR THIS KIND OF BOSS?

"A conflict of interest can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship."

https://cpsa.ca/physicians/standards-of-practice/conflict-of-interest/

Under Review: No
Issued by Council (Conflict of Interest Involving Personal or Financial Gain by Physicians): January 1, 2010
Reissued by Council (Conflict of Interest): Jan. 1, 2021; October 2015

Note: a glossary of terms can be found at the end of this document. Glossary terms are indicated in teal with a “G” throughout this document.
  1. A conflict of interest may arise where a reasonable person could believe that a regulated member’s duty to act in the patient’s best interests may be affected or influenced by other competing interests, including financial, non-financial, direct, or indirect transactions with patients or others. A conflict of interest—real, potential or perceived—can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship[1].
  2. A regulated member must resolve any real, potential or perceived conflict of interest in the best interest of the patient.
  3. A regulated member must:
    1. make full, frank and timely disclosure of any real, potential or perceived conflict of interest to the patient;
    2. document the details of the disclosure made to the patient in the patient’s record; and
    3. comply with clause (2) regardless of whether the regulated member has obtained consent from the patient to remain in the conflict of interest.
  4. A regulated member must not:
    1. accept or offer commissions, rebates, fees, gifts or other inducementsG related to patient referrals or devices, appliances, supplies, pharmaceuticals, diagnostic procedures or therapeutic services;
    2. seek or accept any benefit for a referral, service or product provided by another regulated professional to a patient, other than for services provided by a partner, associate, employee or locum of the regulated member;
    3. offer an inducement to another regulated professional conditional on providing a referral, service or product to a patient, whether or not such referral, service or product is medically appropriate; or
    4. encourage another person to offer or accept an inducement conditional on providing a referral, service or product to a patient, whether or not such referral, service or product is medically appropriate.
  5. A regulated member must notrefer a patient to any facility or healthcare business separate and apart from the regulated member’s medical practice in which the regulated member has a direct or indirect financial interest unless there are no viable alternatives to meet the patient’s needs and the following conditions are all met:
    1. any benefit the regulated member receives due to their financial interest is based on the regulated member’s financial contribution or effort provided to that facility and not on the volume of patient referrals or other business from the regulated member;
    2. there are no terms or conditions that require the regulated member to make referrals to the facility or otherwise generate business for the facility; and
    3. the regulated member fully discloses the interest they have in the facility or healthcare business to the patient prior to the referral.

Glossary

Conflict of interest: a conflict of interest may arise where a reasonable person could believe that a regulated member’s duty to act in the patient’s best interests may be affected or influenced by other competing interests, including financial, non-financial, direct, or indirect transactions with patients or others. A conflict of interest can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship. (From CPSO’s Relationships with Industry practice standard)
Inducements: anything that persuades or influences someone to do something.
i’ll just compliment her. “your sweet juicy yoni deserves the bestest and mostest lingam!”
 
i’ll just compliment her. “your sweet juicy yoni deserves the bestest and mostest lingam!”

I think also cannot. Cos wait you compliment it will cloud her professional judgment even she also not aware.

A conflict of interest can exist even if the regulated member is confident their professional judgment is not being influenced by the conflicting interest or relationship.

So what about if someone tells their doctor they are fucking stupid bastard can it influence their professional judgment too?

I think answer is no cos Dr is professional wont let personal negative feeling against patient influence their professional judgment.

So cursing and swearing is ok. Praise and gifts cannot.

FUCK LAH!!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Name me one which has directly cited you as a reference.

Apples and Oranges here...

Our health care system is at risk...that is the unfortunate consequence...

In 3rd world countries there is no system to begin with so there is nothing to risk.

In the developed countries "protect the health care system" turned out to be the biggest lie ever. Google the info for yourself.
 
In 3rd world countries there is no system to begin with so there is nothing to risk.

In the developed countries "protect the health care system" turned out to be the biggest lie ever. Google the info for yourself.
Firstly, every country on earth, even a "3rd world country" or under developed country, has a health care system.

Secondly, "Protecting the health care system" in more developed countries during the COVID pandemic is not a lie. At the peak of COVID infections, France, Italy, UK, even some states in the US experienced an almost collapse of their healthcare. These are not developing nations.

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Firstly, every country on earth, even a "3rd world country" or under developed country, has a health care system.

Secondly, "Protecting the health care system" in more developed countries during the COVID pandemic is not a lie. At the peak of COVID infections, France, Italy, UK, even some states in the US experienced an almost collapse of their healthcare. These are not developing nations.

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Hmm. Not everywhere want to protect. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I just got this in my email

August 3, 2021


Dear Family Physicians,

Two years ago, the idea of having our master agreement terminated and seeing a global pandemic arrive just weeks later would have seemed implausible. Unfortunately, that has been our reality over the past 18 months and we have worked tirelessly to adapt to the constant onslaught of changes and challenges. I have heard from many of you that it has been an exhausting and, at times, demoralizing battle and I want you to know how much I appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences. Now, I am hoping more members will have the opportunity to be heard through a new engagement initiative the Sections of Family and Rural Medicine, and the Primary Care Network (PCN) Physician Leads Executive, will be hosting over the next few weeks.

Informal Member Conversations
We will be holding informal member conversations in Zones across the province over the next few weeks. Each of these virtual sessions will run for 90 minutes and will be hosted by SFM, SRM, PLE and some RF Delegate members. The goal is to invite members to share personal stories and encourage open discussion to help us better understand the challenges you are facing surrounding practice survivability and where we should focus our advocacy efforts. If you can’t attend the scheduled session in your own zone, you are welcome to join a session that better suits your schedule.

To register for the appropriate event, click on the zone below for registration and details:

Member and Patient Surveys
If you are not able to attend an informal conversation session, please share your experiences through a confidential member survey, which is available here. It is intended to help us understand what you’ve experienced over the past 18 months, the issues that are most important to you, and how they are impacting your practice survivability. The survey is open now and will remain open until September 15. Feedback from the member survey will be combined with information from patients and reported as key themes that will help guide our advocacy efforts.

The patient survey, which is available on albertapatients.ca, focuses on patients’ experiences accessing care from their family doctor over the past year and a half. We encourage you to tell your patients about the survey, which opens on August 15 and closes August 31.

Lifting of Public Health Restrictions
Last week’s announcement that government will lift all remaining public health measures as of August 16, raises many serious concerns. The decision to remove mask mandates and isolation requirements, while eliminating contact tracing and closing provincial testing centres is distressing, especially as jurisdictions around the world – including Alberta – are seeing a resurgence driven by the Delta variant. Alberta continues to lag behind on vaccine delivery and we are mere weeks from a return to school with children under 12 still unable to receive the vaccine. AMA President, Dr. Paul Boucher, released a President’s Letter outlining many of those concerns that I encourage you to read if you haven’t yet had the chance.

In the days since the announcement, I have heard directly from family physicians who are dismayed by what these changes will mean for them, their practices, and their patients. With the closure of provincial COVID assessment centres on August 31, the CMOH has indicated that Albertans should visit their primary care providers for symptomatic testing. Many fear this will jeopardize physician, staff, and patient safety – particularly for immunocompromised, elderly, and pediatric patients. The increased demand for testing will further burden family practices attempting to address the backlog of illnesses and chronic conditions that have been exacerbated by the pandemic. In addition, there are considerations around the cost of PPE, and questions about tracing and the role family physicians will be expected to play. The CMOH has also emphasized the need for family physicians to discuss vaccine hesitancy to improve vaccine uptake – conversations that are often time-intensive and may be met with hostility and resistance from patients.


The President of the Section of Rural Medicine and I will be attending a multi-stakeholder meeting to discuss these and other issues. We hope to get answers on the expectations for primary care physicians moving forward and what will be contained in the guidelines to inform respiratory illness management that the CMOH mentioned would be coming soon. We will update you with the information that comes out of this meeting.

In the meantime, I sincerely hope you will take the time to participate in our informal conversations and/or member survey, and that you will encourage your patients to complete the patient survey. The ideas and issues that emerge from this engagement initiative will help inform our advocacy efforts and allow us to focus on the most important issues for you and your patients.

If you have any questions about the engagement initiative, or thoughts to share about the lifting of public health restrictions, please email me directly at [email protected].

Best regards,
dr-hodgson-signature.png
Dr. Craig Hodgson
President, AMA Section of Family Medicine
 
Hmm. Not everywhere want to protect. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I just got this in my email

August 3, 2021


Dear Family Physicians,

Two years ago, the idea of having our master agreement terminated and seeing a global pandemic arrive just weeks later would have seemed implausible. Unfortunately, that has been our reality over the past 18 months and we have worked tirelessly to adapt to the constant onslaught of changes and challenges. I have heard from many of you that it has been an exhausting and, at times, demoralizing battle and I want you to know how much I appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences. Now, I am hoping more members will have the opportunity to be heard through a new engagement initiative the Sections of Family and Rural Medicine, and the Primary Care Network (PCN) Physician Leads Executive, will be hosting over the next few weeks.

Informal Member Conversations
We will be holding informal member conversations in Zones across the province over the next few weeks. Each of these virtual sessions will run for 90 minutes and will be hosted by SFM, SRM, PLE and some RF Delegate members. The goal is to invite members to share personal stories and encourage open discussion to help us better understand the challenges you are facing surrounding practice survivability and where we should focus our advocacy efforts. If you can’t attend the scheduled session in your own zone, you are welcome to join a session that better suits your schedule.

To register for the appropriate event, click on the zone below for registration and details:

Member and Patient Surveys
If you are not able to attend an informal conversation session, please share your experiences through a confidential member survey, which is available here. It is intended to help us understand what you’ve experienced over the past 18 months, the issues that are most important to you, and how they are impacting your practice survivability. The survey is open now and will remain open until September 15. Feedback from the member survey will be combined with information from patients and reported as key themes that will help guide our advocacy efforts.

The patient survey, which is available on albertapatients.ca, focuses on patients’ experiences accessing care from their family doctor over the past year and a half. We encourage you to tell your patients about the survey, which opens on August 15 and closes August 31.

Lifting of Public Health Restrictions
Last week’s announcement that government will lift all remaining public health measures as of August 16, raises many serious concerns. The decision to remove mask mandates and isolation requirements, while eliminating contact tracing and closing provincial testing centres is distressing, especially as jurisdictions around the world – including Alberta – are seeing a resurgence driven by the Delta variant. Alberta continues to lag behind on vaccine delivery and we are mere weeks from a return to school with children under 12 still unable to receive the vaccine. AMA President, Dr. Paul Boucher, released a President’s Letter outlining many of those concerns that I encourage you to read if you haven’t yet had the chance.

In the days since the announcement, I have heard directly from family physicians who are dismayed by what these changes will mean for them, their practices, and their patients. With the closure of provincial COVID assessment centres on August 31, the CMOH has indicated that Albertans should visit their primary care providers for symptomatic testing. Many fear this will jeopardize physician, staff, and patient safety – particularly for immunocompromised, elderly, and pediatric patients. The increased demand for testing will further burden family practices attempting to address the backlog of illnesses and chronic conditions that have been exacerbated by the pandemic. In addition, there are considerations around the cost of PPE, and questions about tracing and the role family physicians will be expected to play. The CMOH has also emphasized the need for family physicians to discuss vaccine hesitancy to improve vaccine uptake – conversations that are often time-intensive and may be met with hostility and resistance from patients.


The President of the Section of Rural Medicine and I will be attending a multi-stakeholder meeting to discuss these and other issues. We hope to get answers on the expectations for primary care physicians moving forward and what will be contained in the guidelines to inform respiratory illness management that the CMOH mentioned would be coming soon. We will update you with the information that comes out of this meeting.

In the meantime, I sincerely hope you will take the time to participate in our informal conversations and/or member survey, and that you will encourage your patients to complete the patient survey. The ideas and issues that emerge from this engagement initiative will help inform our advocacy efforts and allow us to focus on the most important issues for you and your patients.

If you have any questions about the engagement initiative, or thoughts to share about the lifting of public health restrictions, please email me directly at [email protected].

Best regards,
dr-hodgson-signature.png
Dr. Craig Hodgson
President, AMA Section of Family Medicine
So because of COVID's impact on the general economy, most places have to do a delicate dance between opening up and locking down. But that doesn't mean they are not protecting their health systems. The threat of healthcare systems of being overwhelmed is always there. Most are now leveraging on vaccinations to open up.
 
So because of COVID's impact on the general economy, most places have to do a delicate dance between opening up and locking down. But that doesn't mean they are not protecting their health systems. The threat of healthcare systems of being overwhelmed is always there. Most are now leveraging on vaccinations to open up.

I am looking forward to going back to in person visits.

I don't really want to think in terms of "Protecting Health Systems" or "opening up" or "locking down".

I just want to go back to life as per normal.

Whatever happens will happen.

With any luck all the people who got vaccinations will collapse and die in the next 6.9 months. Then no more health system you don't have to worry about protect or not protect. LOL!
 
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