Renovation to your homes

[Jetstream]

Hi bro n sis.... i m not sure if this is the correct forum to ask my questuon. I juz finish renovating my house. I did chg the tang ki for better water presuure. Now my house flooded with water from first floor dripped thru my kitchen false ceiling to ground floor. Setia refused to settle for us even though we r still under 36 mths warranty... reason being we add on tang ki. They said SAJ approved the house before handover. Are they right to say that huh? The water pipe burst on the first floor toilet. Best part is..... is a wkend home only not much usage de..... so vex now. Can someone enlighten me?

The question is what caused the leakage as a matter of fact -your new tangki or preexisting Setia work. This seems to be the source of dispute. If so, get an independent professional to investigate and furnish a report.

 

[cow138]

Yup. Best to get your contractor to fix the problem.
Not too fair to get the developer to pick up the pieces

 

[toyohon]

Its akin to modification.

 

[Jevil]

Orh ok.... thanks to all of u

I understand already but contractor wont do de lor.... i hv to pay myself hur hur hur

Thanks again ya!

 

[vincentck]

Hi bro n sis.... i m not sure if this is the correct forum to ask my questuon. I juz finish renovating my house. I did chg the tang ki for better water presuure. Now my house flooded with water from first floor dripped thru my kitchen false ceiling to ground floor. Setia refused to settle for us even though we r still under 36 mths warranty... reason being we add on tang ki. They said SAJ approved the house before handover. Are they right to say that huh? The water pipe burst on the first floor toilet. Best part is..... is a wkend home only not much usage de..... so vex now. Can someone enlighten me?

Just to understand, you removed the original water tank and changed to a bigger one? How did your contractor managed to do that? Change it thru the roof tiles? If the water leakage comes from ur new tank and connected pipes, then it's the contractor's fault or in this case your responsibility since the contractor doesn't want to fix it for you. All the best bro. I just added a water pump outside my main tank to increase pressure to all the bathrooms.

 

[Frodo]

Just to understand, you removed the original water tank and changed to a bigger one? How did your contractor managed to do that? Change it thru the roof tiles? If the water leakage comes from ur new tank and connected pipes, then it's the contractor's fault or in this case your responsibility since the contractor doesn't want to fix it for you. All the best bro. I just added a water pump outside my main tank to increase pressure to all the bathrooms.

I would have thought installing a water pump would solve a water pressure issue at simplest and possibly cheaper option?

 

[vincentck]

That would be my opinion too. Alternatively, usually pressure is more important when bathing... So can just buy water heaters with built-in pump to install in every bathroom.

The water pump also increase pressure for the basin, and it's not pleasant when a new person doesn't know, turns on the tap and the water gushes out suddenly.

Maybe he had another reason for changing the tank.

 

[Frodo]

That would be my opinion too. Alternatively, usually pressure is more important when bathing... So can just buy water heaters with built-in pump to install in every bathroom.

The water pump also increase pressure for the basin, and it's not pleasant when a new person doesn't know, turns on the tap and the water gushes out suddenly.

Maybe he had another reason for changing the tank.

My water pump increased the water flow significantly but it doesnt gush out and surprise the user, unless maybe you switch it on halfway during water flow?

 

[FHBH12]

That would be my opinion too. Alternatively, usually pressure is more important when bathing... So can just buy water heaters with built-in pump to install in every bathroom.

The water pump also increase pressure for the basin, and it's not pleasant when a new person doesn't know, turns on the tap and the water gushes out suddenly.

Maybe he had another reason for changing the tank.

Need to size the pump and adjust the pressure correctly. Do check with your contractor.

 

[vincentck]

Thanks for ur feedback. I bought the pump on my own and my contractor installed it for me. There are no settings on the pump when I saw it at the shop.

Actually, even though water gushes out strongly, fortunately the water shoots straight into the basin hole, so no issue for me. I was just thinking of a general setup whereby the water hits the basin strong enough to wet the user.

Did any of you clean ur water tank? I'm seriously considering that because of the amount of sediment left behind during construction.

 

[Grago]

Thanks for ur feedback. I bought the pump on my own and my contractor installed it for me. There are no settings on the pump when I saw it at the shop.

Actually, even though water gushes out strongly, fortunately the water shoots straight into the basin hole, so no issue for me. I was just thinking of a general setup whereby the water hits the basin strong enough to wet the user.

Did any of you clean ur water tank? I'm seriously considering that because of the amount of sediment left behind during construction.

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I did. I did this as I had installed a filter just after the meter. This would ensure that the water that goes into the water tank is sediment free??

 

[vincentck]

I did. I did this as I had installed a filter just after the meter. This would ensure that the water that goes into the water tank is sediment free??

Bro Grago, how did u clean the tank? DIY or u called a contractor in to do it? What's the cost if u called a contractor?

I was thinking of buying a long pipe; then climb into the roof and just suck the sand out into the bathroom using the simple physics of high to low water pressure.

 

[Grago]

Bro Grago, how did u clean the tank? DIY or u called a contractor in to do it? What's the cost if u called a contractor?

I was thinking of buying a long pipe; then climb into the roof and just suck the sand out into the bathroom using the simple physics of high to low water pressure.

Vincent, I got the guys who were installing my solar heater to clean the water tank. This is how they did it. They first, got a clean MOP, then they scrubbed the tank with it, there is a release valve by the water tank that will release the water in the tank to one of the bathrooms. In my case it was they common bathroom that has a pipe that was just above the bath floor in the shower area. Try looking for it. It actually stands out because when you notice it's blue in color in my case and you will be wondering what it's for.
In the roof area where the water tank sits, there will be a valve that is attached to a pipe, in my case it was a blue pipe, that runs towards that particular bathroom that the other end of it will appear in the shower area.
So once the guys have scrubbed the tank with the MOP, they release the water through the outlet valve.( DON'T forget to shut off the incoming valve before this. You"ll get an idea of which valve does what when you climb into the roof space. Yes I have climbed into my roof space several times out of curiosity and also to know where the shut off valves are.)
Once the water tank is empty, shutoff the outlet valve and refill the water tank again but either 1/4 or 1/2, depends on you, use the MOP again, to scrubbed not only the bottom but generally the whole inside of the tank. Just to make sure all the sediments are scrubbed free. Took them about 1 hour or so to get the tank clean.... And I mean clean because when they ran the water out after the fourth time, it was clear water that was being flushed out. Then make sure that the water tank cover is put back on properly because after a while, approx 4 mths. later when and if you go up again into the roof space you will see a film of dust and sort of like sand material covering the water tank cover????
Not sure what your roof space is like, but if you are able to move around while up there then use the MOP to scrub the tank then flush it out. Alternative, you could just flush out the sediments, several times, but it might not be a thorough way of cleaning the tank, once and for a while!!!
The cost for them to clean the tank was RM150.
Hope this helps.

 

[snowbird]

Vincent, I got the guys who were installing my solar heater to clean the water tank. This is how they did it. They first, got a clean MOP, then they scrubbed the tank with it, there is a release valve by the water tank that will release the water in the tank to one of the bathrooms. In my case it was they common bathroom that has a pipe that was just above the bath floor in the shower area. Try looking for it. It actually stands out because when you notice it's blue in color in my case and you will be wondering what it's for.
In the roof area where the water tank sits, there will be a valve that is attached to a pipe, in my case it was a blue pipe, that runs towards that particular bathroom that the other end of it will appear in the shower area.
So once the guys have scrubbed the tank with the MOP, they release the water through the outlet valve.( DON'T forget to shut off the incoming valve before this. You"ll get an idea of which valve does what when you climb into the roof space. Yes I have climbed into my roof space several times out of curiosity and also to know where the shut off valves are.)
Once the water tank is empty, shutoff the outlet valve and refill the water tank again but either 1/4 or 1/2, depends on you, use the MOP again, to scrubbed not only the bottom but generally the whole inside of the tank. Just to make sure all the sediments are scrubbed free. Took them about 1 hour or so to get the tank clean.... And I mean clean because when they ran the water out after the fourth time, it was clear water that was being flushed out. Then make sure that the water tank cover is put back on properly because after a while, approx 4 mths. later when and if you go up again into the roof space you will see a film of dust and sort of like sand material covering the water tank cover????
Not sure what your roof space is like, but if you are able to move around while up there then use the MOP to scrub the tank then flush it out. Alternative, you could just flush out the sediments, several times, but it might not be a thorough way of cleaning the tank, once and for a while!!!
The cost for them to clean the tank was RM150.
Hope this helps.

ALWAYS make sure the water tank is covered otherwise you may find dead cockroaches, lizards, rats floating in it the next time you open the cover.
Tightly covered also prevent light entering the tank, encouraging moss growing.
To prevent sediment, install a removable filter on inlet before the entry to tank, you'll be surprised how quickly it turn brown! These filters are quiet cheap and easy to change.

 

[vincentck]

Bro Grago & Snowbird, thanks for the fantastic advice. The outlet pipe is in the master bathroom, ugly grey pipe sticking 3-4" out of the wall. Now I just need to climb into the roof again to survey the valves before I start my work.

There's enough space into roof to move around and the good thing is my tank is on a concrete slab. Going up also gives me a chance to check the installation of my pump. See whether it's done properly or not; although everything seems to be working ok now.

 

[Grago]

Bro Grago & Snowbird, thanks for the fantastic advice. The outlet pipe is in the master bathroom, ugly grey pipe sticking 3-4" out of the wall. Now I just need to climb into the roof again to survey the valves before I start my work.

There's enough space into roof to move around and the good thing is my tank is on a concrete slab. Going up also gives me a chance to check the installation of my pump. See whether it's done properly or not; although everything seems to be working ok now.

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Morning Vincent, from the photo that you posted, the outlet valve could possibly be the pipe coming out of the bottom right of the photo with the red valve aprox 6" away from the water tank??
You want to take it easy when up there, it is going to be hot, and sweaty not to mention all the rubbish that the contractors did not clear away after they did their work. There could be small screws lying about that you might not be able to see, the bigger stuff like broken bricks and clumps of cement can be swept aside, but the small sharp objects you need to be careful. Take care OK.....

 

[Frodo]

Morning Vincent, from the photo that you posted, the outlet valve could possibly be the pipe coming out of the bottom right of the photo with the red valve aprox 6" away from the water tank??
You want to take it easy when up there, it is going to be hot, and sweaty not to mention all the rubbish that the contractors did not clear away after they did their work. There could be small screws lying about that you might not be able to see, the bigger stuff like broken bricks and clumps of cement can be swept aside, but the small sharp objects you need to be careful. Take care OK.....

LOL! I don't even dare to stick my head up the ceiling board to see what lurks under the roof. Watch too many movies and find it creepy.

 

[Grago]

LOL! I don't even dare to stick my head up the ceiling board to see what lurks under the roof. Watch too many movies and find it creepy.

hahaha, should wave "Sting" first in the roof space, then whatever "up there" won't dare to disturb you!!!!

 

[jasonjst]

Thanks for ur feedback. I bought the pump on my own and my contractor installed it for me. There are no settings on the pump when I saw it at the shop.

Actually, even though water gushes out strongly, fortunately the water shoots straight into the basin hole, so no issue for me. I was just thinking of a general setup whereby the water hits the basin strong enough to wet the user.

Did any of you clean ur water tank? I'm seriously considering that because of the amount of sediment left behind during construction.

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Need to turn on the pump 24hrs or only turn on when required ?

 

[Frodo]

Need to turn on the pump 24hrs or only turn on when required ?

I leave mine on unless away for vacation.