Hello SGMalay
I appreciate your postings. We need more non-Sinkie Chinese to express their views in order to have better communication.
I can't say I agree with you completely; nor do I disagree with you largely.
>> I accept neutral views rather than taking side aimlessly.
With regards to employment issues, I think Chinese have a slavish mentality to work. This makes them more hardworking than any race on earth.
>> Lets say chinese are extremely hardworking, the question, do other races must follow to that extreme?
I don't personally like the Chinese attitude. And I think many angmohs in angmoh countries are also very worried. Chinese are willing to work like energizer bunnies for very little pay. Anytime a Chinese becomes a boss (or gets to rule the country, e.g. Singapore or HK), the Chinese boss starts exploiting his workers and forcing everyone to work super long hours.
>> I've worked with chinese by leadership, in my experience, chinese good at giving instruction but not working as a team. Whenever non chinese makes small mistake or slower, chinese often critics rather than showing us best possible way to execute our work efficiently. but however, if it is opposite, they tend to help each other and/or cover up what is left undone.
In the meeting room, non-chinese opinion was taken as doesn't really matter but to chinese, they will take seriously with their opinion/feedback.
This is why majority of malays dislike about chinese who very commading instead of working as a team.
Non-chinese felt like a slave, rather than being treated as human being.
For that reason, I begin to try out with company that lead by the whites. I am happy to work for the whites who takes his employee seriously regardless of their position. What matter most is, objectives and goals to succeed.
I have been hearing many Sinkie Chinese employers complain that Sinkies, especially Malays, are not 100% commited to their work.
>> I can't agree fully, but I do admit that they are some malay who tend to be lazy in the work place, likewise for chinese, they also have the lazy one but smarter than the malays. The moment the boss or supervisor is not around, they would take advantage either to work slower (taking own sweet times) or doing non-related work.
But why should anyone be 100% committed? Do you work for a living, or live to work? With Chinese, I regret to say that too many Live to Work.
>> This is the point, whatever chinese are doing, they expect others to follow. It is as good as, if chinese to commit suicide, non-chinese should follow as well.
Malays also have a problem with their famous 'narrow communalism' as Mahathir put it.
>> Yes, indeed you are right, but bear in mind, it is not all malays are the same just like chinese too. Otherwise, you would see less malay working in the government sector.
Being concerned about the Community is a good thing. Being too concerned is not. Many Malays, especially those in lower level occupations, take too much time off work to visit relatives in hospitals or attend communal events. They spend too much time with their extended families and their community, especially in religious events, without realizing that the world does not owe them a living.
>> This is very unfortunate for the malays working with chinese, in my observation, chinese tend to watch closely towards the malay, instead of looking/treating all races as one. This is very disappointing, one sded observation i must say.
Hossay was expressing a prejudice that many Chinese employers have against Malays. I don't agree with him, but I am sorry to tell you that too many Chinese rely on the cheap labour, Lim Sway Sway model. They would go bankrupt if they didn't act like slavedrivers.
>> I beg to differ, perhaps you may have overlooked "Hossay" posting. Perhaps we can discuss this later when you have clearer picture in his posting.
In personal experience I have found Malays (local Muslims as well as Filipinos) in service occupations very good. They tend to be more polite, patient, and service oriented. Indians are a mixed bag; Chinese tend to be more brusque and impolite.
>> There are some chinese who are as nice and polite, I've spoken a few and very pleasant to speak with chinese customer service so far.
My positive view of Malays in service occupations ranges from the lowly paid, such as waiters, to the middle paid like nurses, to the highly paid such as architects. So my positive view applies to the whole Malay community.
Malays actually have good cultural strengths. I think it makes them better architects and accountants. Unfortunately Service Orientation doesn't get rewarded in our economy, which is focused on the idiotic PAP-MIW-LimSwaySway faster-cheaper model.
>> Thank you for your honest feeback, while I must admit, malay can be as good if they are coach properly, but in sales which I still find that malay have long way to learn from chinese.
If given oppotunity, surely malay would love to learn from the chinese but the question, how can the malay achieve without chinese sincerity?
As long as our economy continues trying to compete with cheap labour China, the Chinese way of business will prevail. The Malays will suffer. If we switched to a more relaxed, more high end, Switzerland-like services oriented economy, I think Malays will do better.
