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pVideo] - LHL announces in Malay : "Muslim nurses in public healthcare sector can wear tudung from 1 Nov 2021"

nayr69sg

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Your response indicates sarcasm with an eye to insult. Shall I respond? I must because my religion demands that erroneous perceptions are corrected.

The whole exercise is to 'allow'. Not to force or compel. If a muslim woman wants to wear it, she can, now. If she refuses, then its ok. Its all about giving them their choices.

Now to the non muslim, its also the same. If they want to, they can put on the hijab. If not, then its ok too. But I suggest as nurses they do, for better hygiene.

The current law forbids the choice. That was what we muslims fought against.
I support freedom of choice. Freedom to practice religion.

I agree with you. Non muslim should be able to choose if they want to wear hijab or not.

What about Halal food?

Are non muslims allowed that choice too? Hawker centre and coffee shop can. But restaurant cannot. Macdonald's. Swensens. No pork period. No choice. Not even about pork. All food need to be halal. Halal chicken. Halal beef. No outside food. Not even baby food.

In Canada i see muslims going to Macdonalds and restaurants too even if they are not Halal certified. They just order what they want. And then the non muslims order what they want. Why is it not the same in SG or in muslim countries?
 

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While Loofydralb may say that Islam doesn't force Muslims to wear the tudung, the problem is judgement and peer pressure by other muslims (especially religious minded ones) in the community.


runesplease :
I've spoken to my female Muslim friends on the topic of wearing a tudung. Some say it is part of their religion/culture/identity, while others view it as a form of suppression/oppression on their rights (i.e being judged by other muslims if they do not want to wear it).

Boogie_p0p :
But my personal experience is that there has been a rise of religious shaming posts ppl among ppl whose group identity is strongly related to the religion, such as jews and malays. For example, I saw some of my muslims friends sharing posts like this on fb to to "raise awareness" on what's haram attire and what's not.

DuePomegranate :
I can't even tell what's "wrong" with half of the pictures in the post. Are they saying that the drapey part of the scarf must cover the chest? The recent influence of Arabic culture on Singaporean and Malaysian Muslims is quite disturbing to me, as an outsider.

silentscope90210 :
I think it sucks if people start pressurizing you to wear one if you don't want to.

af:
while others view it as a form of suppression/oppression on their rights (i.e being judged if they do not want to wear it

hen there's also further ostracising those that left the religion and not wearing cause they are now much more obvious to other malays

GlobalSettleLayer :
Yeah it's a shame for the women who prefer not wearing it. Because now they'll be pressured to do so given that "well? Gov says you can wear. Why no wear?"

Jammy_buttons2 :
Up to them to wear, my only fear is muslim males will force their daugthers/wife/sisters to wear at school/work


abigbluebird
I have Muslim friends who get snarky comments about them not wearing the tudung (or eating at non- halal chop places even without pork) from their fellow Muslims.


 
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Loofydralb

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What about non muslims.

Do Muslims eventually see that the non muslims should also wear tudung to respect the Muslims?
Your response indicates sarcasm with an eye to insult. Shall I respond? I must because my religion demands that erroneous perceptions are corrected.

The whole exercise is to 'allow'. Not to force or compel. If a muslim woman wants to wear it, she can, now. If she refuses, then its ok. Its all about giving them their choices.

Now to the non muslim, its also the same. If they want to, they can put on the hijab. If not, then its ok too. But I suggest as nurses they do, for better hygiene.

The current law forbids the choice. That was what we muslims fought against.
I support freedom of choice. Freedom to practice religion.

I agree with you. Non muslim should be able to choose if they want to wear hijab or not.

What about Halal food?

Are non muslims allowed that choice too? Hawker centre and coffee shop can. But restaurant cannot. Macdonald's. Swensens. No pork period. No choice. Not even about pork. All food need to be halal. Halal chicken. Halal beef. No outside food. Not even baby food.

In Canada i see muslims going to Macdonalds and restaurants too even if they are not Halal certified. They just order what they want. And then the non muslims order what they want. Why is it not the same in SG or in muslim countries?
What you missed is this thing called freedom of choice. The restaurant has the freedom to serve non halal food. Muslims then have a choice to not patronise that restaurant.

Similarly in Canada, muslims do have a choice to patronise the restaurant. But, there is a subtle twist here. Not all muslims are practising muslims. To real practising muslims, they are hypocrites. The religion is clear on what are the dietary laws. If they choose to eat non halal, they will have to answer for it in the afterlife. Unless they do not believe in it, that is why they're hypocrites.

At the end of the day, again, its about freedom of choices. Unlike mandated bans this PAP govt practises, for whatever justifications.
 

Loofydralb

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While Loofydralb may say that Islam doesn't force Muslims to wear the tudung, the problem is judgement and peer pressure by other muslims (especially religious minded ones) in the community.
You have a posted many anecdootes. Again I will simplify it. It is all about freedom of choice.

Those that you have quoted are either hypocrites or they are not educated sufficiently in what their it entails to be a muslim.

And as muslims, we know how seriously the punishment to transgress, thus it is for the love that we are expressing out to fellow muslims to abide, because we do not want them (or even non muslims) to end up on the wrong side of hereafter.

For those pretend muslims, I urge them to learn and understand Islam or else stop your hypocrisy and leave and be an adult and face the consequences.
 

porcaputtana

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Your response indicates sarcasm with an eye to insult. Shall I respond? I must because my religion demands that erroneous perceptions are corrected.

The whole exercise is to 'allow'. Not to force or compel. If a muslim woman wants to wear it, she can, now. If she refuses, then its ok. Its all about giving them their choices.

Now to the non muslim, its also the same. If they want to, they can put on the hijab. If not, then its ok too. But I suggest as nurses they do, for better hygiene.

The current law forbids the choice. That was what we muslims fought against
let's face it

without the Chinese people you Malays will be left in the stone age . Mahatir himself uttered similar sentiments

instead of working hard and be progressive, all you lot can moan about is respecting your diet and a piece of towel round the head

and it took a constitutional seismic change so that a poor hapless Indian woman can become Malay to be ushered into the "highest office in the land"

a lot of privileges and concessions have been granted to you lot. Be grateful and quit moaning
 

syed putra

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let's face it

without the Chinese people you Malays will be left in the stone age . Mahatir himself uttered similar sentiments

instead of working hard and be progressive, all you lot can moan about is respecting your diet and a piece of towel round the head

and it took a constitutional seismic change so that a poor hapless Indian woman can become Malay to be ushered into the "highest office in the land"

a lot of privileges and concessions have been granted to you lot. Be grateful and quit moaning
What utter nonsense. Because of chinese, malays now are unmannered, spit everywhere, speak with profanities. Ugly High rise building is not a sign of civilisation. Its a sign of excesses and wastefullnes.
Chinese cannot even compete with ceca's while 8n china, they complain working 996 is not really living.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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What utter nonsense. Because of chinese, malays now are unmannered, spit everywhere, speak with profanities. Ugly High rise building is not a sign of civilisation. Its a sign of excesses and wastefullnes.
Chinese cannot even compete with ceca's while 8n china, they complain working 996 is not really living.
SHIT POOtra simply liv cecans fucking his dotters wives sisters mothers...
 

porcaputtana

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What utter nonsense. Because of chinese, malays now are unmannered, spit everywhere, speak with profanities. Ugly High rise building is not a sign of civilisation. Its a sign of excesses and wastefullnes.
Chinese cannot even compete with ceca's while 8n china, they complain working 996 is not really living.
I’d like to see Malays build a high rise

with their own money and own brain and own hands

and then watch you move in and clap when it collapses like a house of cards
 
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