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The outlook for Australia's housing market is deteriorating, and it's weighing on consumer confidence

Westpac’s surprise decision to lift variable mortgage rates for its home loan customers from November 20, along with further negative news flow around slowing momentum in Australia’s residential property market, weighed on Australian household sentiment last week with the latest ANZ-Roy Morgan consumer confidence index slipping 2.0% to 113.3.

While the decline saw sentiment retrace around half the 5.1% bounce registered in the previous week, the index remains above its long-run series average of 112.7.

In a blow to the outlook for household consumption, something the RBA and Australian Treasury are pinning their hopes on to help bolster flagging economic growth, the question on whether now is a “good time to buy a major household item” continued to weaken, falling by a further 3.1%, leaving the subindex some 7.9% below its long run average.

The full survey breakdown can be found below.
•Financial situation compared to a year ago 108.3 (-0.5%)
•Financial situation next year 125.0 (-3.8%)
•Economic conditions next year 99.1 (-0.5%)
•Economic conditions next five years 111.1 (-1.2%)
•Time to buy a major household item 123.2 (-3.1%)

According to Felicity Emmett, co-head of Australian economics at ANZ, sentiment towards the housing market is weakening, something that may weigh on consumer confidence, economic growth and employment in the period ahead.

“The fall in consumer confidence last week was likely driven by deteriorating sentiment about the outlook for the housing market. Higher mortgage rates and falling auction clearance rates are pointing to weaker growth in house prices. The latest ANZ-Property Council Survey revealed a decline in property sector confidence with falls expected in residential prices and construction. A softer housing market is likely to weigh on consumer confidence, economic growth and employment.

Housing has been a key pillar of growth this year, and without that support in 2016, we expect the economy will need further stimulus in the form of another 50bps of rate cuts from the RBA. While the focus is turning to the November RBA board meeting, we continue to expect the Bank to wait until February to change policy settings.”
 
Does reverse logic work? If Johor projects are good, then Singapore even gooder? Or maybe your view is that no JB projects come anywhere near good, I.e. all are cannot imagined one....bad beyond imagination?

Imperia at PH is of pretty high standards. Comparable to high end condos in Singapore.
 
Imperia at PH is of pretty high standards. Comparable to high end condos in Singapore. ��

Are you joking? Or being sarcastic? For one, I don't see the car porch in any of the units at the Imperia. The Imperia is at best can match a high end EC only.
 

If it can happen in a 1st world established city like Melbourne, it is not at all surprising that this will more likely happen in Iskandar.

We'll see many places such as Medini, Puteri Harbour and Danga Bay in 2017/18 to be ghost towns when the thousands of condos are completed.

But I have more confidence with Melbourne because the rate of migration will be high and there is already the infrastructure and amenities to begin with. Can't say the same with Iskandar.
 

So what? So as an Australian I don't buy need to buy a property? You mean if market bad Singaporeans should not buy hdb? In bad situation, property prices low, that's when you should go in. Ha ha I am so important that you need to post on melbourne property in JB folder, so let's go off topic and bring it on and discuss Australian property market here. Hope your sinkie brothers are buying JB properties as citizens or else JB is shit now.

I always thought that the updates on Oz market was because JB also down, now I know they are directed at me, let's go and compare then ha ha ha ha.
 
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If it can happen in a 1st world established city like Melbourne, it is not at all surprising that this will more likely happen in Iskandar.

We'll see many places such as Medini, Puteri Harbour and Danga Bay in 2017/18 to be ghost towns when the thousands of condos are completed.

But I have more confidence with Melbourne because the rate of migration will be high and there is already the infrastructure and amenities to begin with. Can't say the same with Iskandar.

Aya when in denial they will clutch at any desperate straw. My daughter is a citizen and my son finishes NS in 2017 just nice my daughter needs to go to uni, also if my son doesn't go to Oz, I will rent one room and my daughter's accommodation is subsidized ha ha ha ha.
 
Aiya why so sensitive? I post because I have a property in Melbourne too, i don't read aussie news for fun or to target you, where got so free? Just comparing notes since you sound like a very seasoned melbourne investor. Thought we must look at all sides of the story, not just the rosy picture. Ok la I will stop doing it since you sound offended.
 
Challenging times in Johor and Penang

Eugene MahalingamThe Star/ANNSunday, Dec 06, 2015

THE slowdown in the current property sector has seen transactions, be it primary or secondary, winding down within the Klang Valley this year.

Unfortunately, the situation in other prime markets, such as Johor and Penang, has been less than stellar this year - with industry specialists predicting it could take a while for the glut to recover.

Johor-based KGV International Property Consultants (M) Sdn Bhd director Samuel Tan Wee Cheng says 2015 has been a challenging one for the Johor property market.

"It has had to undergo various adjustments such as the goods and services tax (GST), loan approvals, ringgit depreciation and above all, a sense of uncertainty due to the state of economy both nationally and globally.

Landserve (Johor) Sdn Bhd executive director Wee Soon Chit says he expects the uncertainty in the property market to continue into next year due to the weak economic condition.

"The property market is rather weak. This coincides with the traditional holiday/festive season from end-November to February. Less people are likely to commit themselves during this period, but we foresee stronger interests on properties in the second quarter of next year."

On the bright side, Wee says the weaker ringgit has definitely made property prices comparatively cheaper for Singaporeans and other foreigners.

"While the weaker ringgit appears to attract more crossings into Johor Baru for food and grocery shopping, it may not necessarily benefit the property sector here.

"The slowdown in the property market, the concern about the general economy and oversupply situation, however, makes them more cautious about property investment here."

Additionally, Wee says the weaker ringgit benefits Malaysians who work in Singapore.

"This group contributed to significant demand for properties and we expect them to continue to form the bulk of the property purchases."

Tan, meanwhile, feels that with the volatility of the ringgit, Singaporeans will be cautious with any investments in Johor.

He adds that developers are holding on to their prices now, despite rising construction costs and GST.

"Ultimately market forces will determine the selling prices."

Commenting on the residential sub-sector in Johor, Tan says there has been an oversupply of high-rise properties, but points out that demand for units are still popular in selective areas.

"Prices of landed properties are too high for the younger generation. Serviced apartments of about 900 sq ft, priced at RM500 (S$167) per sq ft or thereabouts are still within their means.

Wee concurs that high-rise residential sub-sector in Johor has been affected this year.

"Concern about an oversupply situation as well as occupancy issues have seriously impacted demand for this sector. The presence of giant developers from China like R&F Properties, Greenland and Country Gardens developing huge waterfront projects certainly have also caused concerns.

"It is a buyer's market now and some of the developers are said to be willing to give up to 20 per cent price discount - especially on the high-end products."

The landed residential sub-sector, naturally, has performed better than the high-rise sub-sector, says Wee.

"This sector is comparatively doing better than the non-landed sector but there is also pressure on the pricing.

"No significant drop in prices yet but lower demand means more pressure on prices. We expect prices to ease slightly but not as high as those in the non-landed sector."

He says higher interest rates and borrowing costs will certainly have a negative impact on property buying.

Tan concurs that while transactions within the low-rise property sub-sector has performed better - it is however more expensive.

"Over the next few years, these will be developed further away from the city with a 'no frills' design. They will be smaller but more affordable."

He says the deluxe-type properties priced at RM500,000 will continue to attract buyers who purchase for their own.

"These investors are generally more resilient to market changes and will see property investment as a hedge against inflation or simply a means to upgrade their lifestyle.

"In the immediate term, it will have an impact as borrowing cost will be higher. However, if this is factored in over a longer period, people will still buy as housing is a need, not a want. It is a question of adjusting to this changing landscape."

The situation in Penang


Raine & Horne Malaysia senior partner Michael Geh says that in Penang the residential property market has contracted by almost half since its peak in 2011.

"The market recorded total transactions of 9,667 in the last quarter of 2011 which is the highest number of transactions in the past four years before it saw a drastic drop of about 48.47 per cent in the first quarter of 2012 to only 4,981 transactions.

"The corresponding value of transactions also dropped from RM2.27bil in the fourth quarter of 2011 to RM1.5mil in the first quarter of 2012."

Geh says the market was a lot more volatile in 2012.

"In the second quarter, the transactions increased by about 38.68 per cent to 6,908 transactions valued at RM1.92bil in the second quarter. It dropped slightly to 6,398 transactions in the third quarter. The market plunged again by 22.17 per cent or to 4,979 transactions in the last quarter.

"The market continued to contract in 2013 where transactions dropped slightly by 786 transactions to 4,193 transactions (with a total value of RM1.55bil) in the first quarter and it remained stable with slight increases throughout the year bringing the total transactions to 17,700 units with a total value of RM7.1bil for the year."

According to Geh, high-end high-rise units are selling well in good prime locations.

"Landed residential units seem to hold their values because of scarcity of land on the island. In butterworth the price of landed is strong," he says.

This year, Geh says the Penang market contracted by about 26.17 per cent to 3,834 transactions worth a total RM1.55bil compared to the last quarter of 2014.

"If compared to the same quarter of last year, the market also saw a contraction of about 10.65 per cent or a by 457 transactions.

"In the second quarter of this year, the market improved slightly from the first quarter by only 75 transactions to 3,909 units with a value of only RM1.59bil. When compared to the second quarter of 2014, the market contracted by 17.39 per cent or by 823 transactions."

Geh also believes that the contraction in the market in Penang could also be due to the strict loan requirements with lesser loan approvals.

"The drastic catalyst for the penang property market is 2016 would be how the market will react to the announced Public Transportation Plan. LRT station site's proximity areas will see existing values remaining steady and even soar with optimism of ease in moving around the island.

Penang Bridge catalyst

According to C H Williams Talhar & Wong's (WTW) Property Market Report 2015, overall, landed residential developments are focusing on Seberang Perai due to the availability of lands with a comparatively lower land cost as compared to Penang Island.

"In Penang Island, 985 units of landed residential came into the market in 2014. The construction and completion of the Second Penang Bridge has been a catalyst for new developments in the southern region of Penang Island.

"The existing supply in North-East district is slightly ahead of South-west district (namely 51 per cent of existing supplies in north-east district and 49 per cent in south-west district)."

Citing the National Property Information Centre, existing supply of landed residential was 141,599 units of which 104,804 units (74 per cent) are in Seberang Perai and 36,795 units (26 per cent) in Penang Island.

"Scarcity of land in Penang has driven up land cost and snowballing into the hike of prices for newly launched projects. As a result, sales in the primary market showed signs of slowing down compared to 2013.

"In the secondary market, prices have generally remained stable or increased slightly from last year, backed by the fixed land supply."

Although more attractive and relatively affordable condominiums are being launched in the market, landed residential properties remained the preferred choice of accommodation for Penang residents, WTW says.

"The prices of newly-launched houses continue rising unabated to new benchmark levels. Older residential units in established and growing neighbourhoods such as Greenlane remained highly sought-after despite higher asking prices.

"The steep hike in prices is expected to taper off in the near future with more choices of new housing accommodation entering the market."

Existing supply of high rise residential in Penang State, meanwhile, according to WTW, is about 46,000 units with a majority of the units located within the North-east District (67.6 per cent).

"Several newly completed projects in 2014 include One Tanjung, Summerton, Light Collection II, The Peak, Maritime Suites, Golden

Triangle, Elite Avenue and Elite Heights. New launches in 2014 have been less compared to previous year.

"The condominium market in Penang continued to be the most active property sector in Penang with a large number of projects launched and under construction. However, due to the various cooling measures implemented, challenging economic outlook and weakening sentiment, most of the surveyed newly launched projects received slackening response compared to previous years."

With more choices of new housing accommodation entering the market, the steep hike in prices over the last few years, has tapered off, says WTW.

"Yields have been compressed as increase in rentals have been much slower than capital prices."

- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/challenging-times-johor-and-penang/page/0/1#sthash.EpWCec7w.dpuf
 
Aya when in denial they will clutch at any desperate straw. My daughter is a citizen and my son finishes NS in 2017 just nice my daughter needs to go to uni, also if my son doesn't go to Oz, I will rent one room and my daughter's accommodation is subsidized ha ha ha ha.

Manhattan has replied and he did have good intentions not linked to putting you down. Let's put aside all possible quarrels... it's an interesting learning experience to discuss beyond JB properties.

I've read many mixed reviews about Melbourne. Some are optimistic about its future, saying actually there is presently not enough homes to cater to the increasing population! I find it hard to believe, though if what the authorities meant is looking into the future, maybe they are really planning way ahead. But as of now, they are really building more and more high rise apartments. One wonders how the heck they will be filled. But I'm sure they will.

Like I said, I have a lot more confidence in Melbourne than Iskandar. It's like comparing gold to an old copper. It makes sense to talk about holding power in Melbourne when the market is down. It's a no brainer where, from an international migrant's perspective, one will choose to retire between the 2. Melbourne, of course. It's in a 1st world country, safer, better weather, more well known universities, financial center is there, everything is established, etc.
 
Manhattan has replied and he did have good intentions not linked to putting you down. Let's put aside all possible quarrels... it's an interesting learning experience to discuss beyond JB properties.

I've read many mixed reviews about Melbourne. Some are optimistic about its future, saying actually there is presently not enough homes to cater to the increasing population! I find it hard to believe, though if what the authorities meant is looking into the future, maybe they are really planning way ahead. But as of now, they are really building more and more high rise apartments. One wonders how the heck they will be filled. But I'm sure they will.

Like I said, I have a lot more confidence in Melbourne than Iskandar. It's like comparing gold to an old copper. It makes sense to talk about holding power in Melbourne when the market is down. It's a no brainer where, from an international migrant's perspective, one will choose to retire between the 2. Melbourne, of course. It's in a 1st world country, safer, better weather, more well known universities, financial center is there, everything is established, etc.

I hope you are not implying that those who chose to retire in Johor have no brains.
 
Aiya why so sensitive? I post because I have a property in Melbourne too, i don't read aussie news for fun or to target you, where got so free? Just comparing notes since you sound like a very seasoned melbourne investor. Thought we must look at all sides of the story, not just the rosy picture. Ok la I will stop doing it since you sound offended.

I am not offended because I am not investing in Melbourne, just bought it for my girl only, as she is a citizen, this is very different from buyers who buy in JB with totally no links. Anyway Melbourne is way more vibrant and definitely much more desired destination for migrants and investors than Johor and quality of developments are leagues ahead of most Malaysian developers.

Don't stop posting, do post the whole world's property market when compared to JB to show your sincerity.
 
Manhattan has replied and he did have good intentions not linked to putting you down. Let's put aside all possible quarrels... it's an interesting learning experience to discuss beyond JB properties.

I've read many mixed reviews about Melbourne. Some are optimistic about its future, saying actually there is presently not enough homes to cater to the increasing population! I find it hard to believe, though if what the authorities meant is looking into the future, maybe they are really planning way ahead. But as of now, they are really building more and more high rise apartments. One wonders how the heck they will be filled. But I'm sure they will.

Like I said, I have a lot more confidence in Melbourne than Iskandar. It's like comparing gold to an old copper. It makes sense to talk about holding power in Melbourne when the market is down. It's a no brainer where, from an international migrant's perspective, one will choose to retire between the 2. Melbourne, of course. It's in a 1st world country, safer, better weather, more well known universities, financial center is there, everything is established, etc.

Statistically speaking Melbourne is among the top 10 most livable cities, and also in the top 10 safest. I have no worries on buying anything there. I am originally a Perthite when I first stepped foot to Australia, but could see that Melbourne was much more vibrant and developed. Anyway aren't we supposed to be the same person? Lol.
 
I hope you are not implying that those who chose to retire in Johor have no brains.

No, no... Ok English lesson again. I've never tried to be sarcastic. I'm just being direct, to the point. No use covering up or wasting time making black look white or vice versa. If something is good, just say it's good. If reliable data show something is bad, it has to be.

"No-brainer" means an easy choice. It doesn't mean one is stupid or has no brains.

Singapore is a 1st world country, economically strong, safe and attractive vibrant city. Most of us grew up here or have lived here for ages. If I want to upgrade or maintain my "upper class" lifestyle, naturally I would choose another location where life will be better, or at least have standards close to Singapore's. Melbourne fits the bill. Iskandar does not.

This is not just my view. It's collective. Just read, ask and look around. But it's anyone's choice where they want to live or which properties to buy, including overpriced, oversupplied Iskandar with lack of amenities and very questionable politics/government policies/safety.
 
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It is already happening in Iskandar! And it's not the older condos. It's brand new ones, one of them even touted as a "premium" development. I know at least 3 JB projects which are a huge disappointment.

Now, there are Facebook posts created by all these unhappy residents (many are Singaporeans) posting photos of their new homes that look like some cheapo 1970's development. There are also unacceptable defects like huge cracks, poor designs, wardrobes and kitchens that are an eyesore, totally different from what was promised, broken tiles/glasses, etc.

These owners even paid a huge sum (by Malaysian standard). Some are even trying to find a plan to attack the developers and demand compensation.

I feel their anger and regret. But I also feel like telling them, Do you know you have bought a Johor condo? Do you know the rules and what the developers can do? It's pointless to pursue the matter. It's a bad experience which I think all present buyers of Iskandar condos here have to be aware of. Just wait till 2017/18 and we'll see.
 
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