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Promotions/increment/bonus- base on performance or whether your boss like u?

However, I have never in my life come across a manager in a company promoting someone he does not like.

I know of people who promote someone he dislike. This disliked guy was there when the manager first joined. Characters clashed and nothing in common between manager and disliked guy. But he is reliable and great for team dynamics. He was promoted to keep the team productive, so manager have less trouble at work.

Then again, this can only work with guys.

I have never seen female boss promoting another female whom she does not like. That is for sure!
 
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I've seen successful business partners who don't like each other. I've come across successful band members who hate each other but play in the same band because they compliment each other musically.

However, I have never in my life come across a manager in a company promoting someone he does not like.

There are cases of a manager promoting someone he does not like, for example:

-- manager promoting a scholar (both private and public sector)
-- manager promoting someone who is well liked by the manager's peers (i.e. collective peer review assessment of subordinates by all managers and not just the one actually promoting)
-- manager promoting someone who is well liked by the manager's superior or some bigshots in the organization
-- manager promoting someone who has so obviously make a significant contribution, even though he does not like him personally, e.g. subordinate clinches huge major contract and everyone knows it.

In all these cases, the manager LPPL but also promote. :D
 
I've seen successful business partners who don't like each other. I've come across successful band members who hate each other but play in the same band because they compliment each other musically.

However, I have never in my life come across a manager in a company promoting someone he does not like.

These happen. All it needs is a good worker and a practical type superior who can put aside personal preferences and get the best person promoted who can serve the company well.
 
the manager will suppress him and keep him in control.

Not every manager is like that charbor that you encountered sometime back..................... :D

There are different ways for the manager to handle this in addition to suppression and keeping under control - transfer, overseas assignment, assign difficult almost impossible tasks, just carry on (yes, there are some who can do this too), play little games just for amusement, play big games to try and destroy him (if there is real hatred), etc.

The 2 most important factors that wil determine the manager's actions and the subordinates's reaction are : Mentality & Circumstances. ;)
 
I'm sure this has been done often.

Divide and rule happens in corporate world too
In some places it is even necessary for survival


Chinese factory manager from Hong Kong walks daily tightrope
George has learned that his survival depends on maintaining delicate balance of power among backstabbing staff from different regions

After writing about corporate affairs on the mainland for more than two decades, Money Matters thought she knew something about that world. But after speaking to George, I realise I have not even scratched the surface.

He does not have a face or charisma that one would remember. But this is a Hong Kong-born guy who has managed an IT factory on the mainland for more than a decade.

And that is something. Hongkongers are hired for two reasons. They are either there to train up the locals, or to act as a guard dog against their fishy moves. For obvious reasons, they rarely last long.

Not many make it to 10 years. Indeed, of the 10 outsiders who started the factory, George is the only survivor.

His survival is not down to special skills or knowhow, nor is he the son of someone influential. And he does a high-risk job - double checking most invoices the factory has to pay and most of the hiring it does.

How has he survived? "The matrix," he replied.

That has nothing to do with the factory's products. It is instead a matrix of human beings.

"It is about making sure there is a balance of power among people from different areas," George said.

Balance not in the philosophical sense, but in the numerical one. The matrix shows the number of people the factory has hired from the country's 22 provinces, four municipalities and five autonomous regions.

"You want to make sure not a single area is dominating," he said. "It's not about those much-reported gang fights, but the loss of control if you have too many from one province."

People from the same area tend to gang up, and not just because of differences in dialect and culture. Real interests can be at stake.

That is because hiring on the mainland is often done by word of mouth. When there are some vacancies, a guy will get his siblings and friends from the same village and so on. Goodies, if not loot, are shared to make sure everybody is on board.

A colleague of George's from Taiwan learned this the hard way. His team managed to conceal a major production problem from him. By the time he knew about it, it was already time to pack.

He was only nine months into the job.

"A good balance in the team makes sure you won't be shut out," George said.

"It also brings you a natural check and balance because a Cantonese will love to see a Shanghainese toasted."

So his matrix involves breakdowns according to ranks and departments. Meaning that if the head of the supplies department is Shanghainese, the accounts department which signs off on its claims will be headed by a Cantonese, and the human resources department will in turn be controlled by a Beijinger.

At the same time, the deputy of the supplies department is not from Shanghai, the No2 accounts monitor is not from Guangdong and so on and so forth.

By the way, the security guards at his dormitory come from three different provinces.

"I will let some dubious deals involving tiny sums go. But you bark and get bit - you want to make sure you don't lose your life for that," George said.

Is he paranoid? Well, it's hard not to be when you read about the killing of a financial controller from Hong Kong in 2011.

The woman, who worked at the Shanghai branch of an overseas shipping company, was stabbed to death in her apartment by a secondary school student. Police found that the student was hired for 150,000 yuan (HK$190,000) by one of the woman's colleagues, who was worried that she might have uncovered a 7.5 million yuan embezzlement.

However, George's mastery of the matrix is not enough to put him at ease. His European boss has received four letters from "informers" targeting George, all written in Google-translated English.

"Your boss may throw the first one into the bin," George said. "But when there is a second and third one, he will wonder if anything funny is going on."

George is safe because he long ago set up a system which marks every employee or supplier according to some objective criteria. He doesn't have much problem defending his decisions.

It still hurt, though, when he found in the letters some remarks made casually in personal chats.

He no longer dines with anyone from the office and is alone most evenings. He travels back to Hong Kong every weekend. "My head begins to hurt the minute I cross the Lo Wu Bridge," he said.

If you find the thought of this terrible, imagine the challenge by having to say the right thing politically. Multiply that by tens or hundreds, depending on staff size.

Now I've begun to appreciate the difficulty of being a mainland corporate manager, and the reason behind many apparently senseless moves.

http://www.scmp.com/business/article/1387120/chinese-factory-manager-hong-kong-walks-daily-tightrope
 
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You have a team of sales people. The guy who topped the sales charts regularly upsets all the others. He is not a team player. His presence has affected the morale of the rest of the team. Despite being the top salesman for 2013, you feel his presence in the team resulted in a 20% loss of productivity at team level.

Objectively he should be given a raise and a promotion based on the fact that he sold more than everyone else.

Subjectively you feel that you should fire him and the overall sales figures would rise considerably and would more than compensate for his absence if he was let go.

So what do you do?



I'd keep that fucker on so that there is no solidarity amongst the ranks...nothing is more dangerous than a strageic group that thinks and moves together....


keep him on so as to spur the rest to work harder i'd say!!!



:)
 
Just look at the Cardiff City situation with Vincent Tan and Mackay. Vincent was just waiting for an opportunity to get rid of Mackay.
 
Just look at the Cardiff City situation with Vincent Tan and Mackay. Vincent was just waiting for an opportunity to get rid of Mackay.

I think Mackay got terminated because by that time VT felt that Mackay couldnt do the job of keeping Cardiff safe in the Premier League. His sacking was performance based mostly.
 
Let me qualify by saying u got 5 people, all doing a reasonable good job. But u got to promote 1 and u got to give one no increment due to the bell curve. Then u look into the personal characteristics, one is on the wrong side of 40, one is a pain in the ass, one is a MBA yes man...etc. No prize for guessing who got the promotion!!
 
Everything is easier if you're physically attractive. You don't even need to proactively porlumpar... your bosses (both sexes) will subconsciously look out for you, give you assistance and help you out. All you need to do is focus on your job and everything else will fall into place.


Physically attractive:eek: Eh... have you seen a peepture of the ex-SMRT CEO:D
 
Let me qualify by saying u got 5 people, all doing a reasonable good job. But u got to promote 1 and u got to give one no increment due to the bell curve. Then u look into the personal characteristics, one is on the wrong side of 40, one is a pain in the ass, one is a MBA yes man...etc. No prize for guessing who got the promotion!!

Sounds like its here on sbf

Wrong side of 40 are the older guys here

Pain in the ass are forummers Mr Tomato and munchlanchau

MBA yes man is my shitty shitfu the one and only ball carrier kopiuncle.
 
Sounds like its here on sbf

Wrong side of 40 are the older guys here

Pain in the ass are forummers Mr Tomato and munchlanchau

MBA yes man is my shitty shitfu the one and only ball carrier kopiuncle.
60% got promoted because of their balls carrying abilities!
 
Let me qualify by saying u got 5 people, all doing a reasonable good job. But u got to promote 1 and u got to give one no increment due to the bell curve. Then u look into the personal characteristics, one is on the wrong side of 40, one is a pain in the ass, one is a MBA yes man...etc. No prize for guessing who got the promotion!!

The one with the biggest boobs? :D
 
Let me qualify by saying u got 5 people, all doing a reasonable good job. But u got to promote 1 and u got to give one no increment due to the bell curve. Then u look into the personal characteristics, one is on the wrong side of 40, one is a pain in the ass, one is a MBA yes man...etc. No prize for guessing who got the promotion!!
promote the mba.
the rest of the four,
1 will resign and join the rival
1 will buck up and give maximum
1 will complain and give minimum
1 will lan lan drive taxi and announced the world he is self employ big fark
 
Did u get a good promotion this year or a record bonus? Is it due to pure objective results. Or did u play the good political game and make your boss look good and got rewarded? Can u look at those who got promoted and say 'Yes, he or she deserves it!'. In times where we look at the widening income gap, the gulfs between the have and haves not, it's time we look at the ranking and evaluation system and see if it is equitable.

You cannot do well without managing your boss. Those who can manage their bosses boss are even better. There is no such thing as "objective". HR in well run companies take pains to ensure that assessments are not biased. However whatever HR does is in the interest of the company, not you. If the boss is the owner of the company it is a whole different game. My take is this : if you are staking your future on "fair" treatment, you are already a loser.
 
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