I think your prediction will come true. And will happen in other countries too.
I also want to take sinovac or sinopharm or both!
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Pro MRNA cucks. You guys will be dealing with covid mutations forever. Why?
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I also want to take sinovac or sinopharm or both!
Dont be so mean to rabbits lah. Rabbits are quite harmless and docile.
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What do you do all day stuck at home ?
No job. No income .
and only 10% left to feel sorry with
poor thing
Lol!You can ask the dead unvaccinated ones how come their IgM didn't save them from the cytokine storm that killed them
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-tests-explai-idUSKBN29P0OC
and ANY vaccine will trigger IgM. Your body produces IgM to any antigen challenge as the initial response .
You are such a fake science joke
Wah lau IgM also become some kind of special?
Sigh actually I think the internet with so called "free flow" of information is causing more harm than good.
Perhaps it is time to end anonymity on the internet.
Need to state name ID and credentials when making any posts or articles opinions etc
Everyonr got to be accountable and liable if they write rubbish.
Those who have no credentials have to state they are complete no idea what they talking about. Hopefully people will learn not to listen to this group.
Oh well.
Meamwhile.....patient autonomy!
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog...are-exert-your-patient-autonomy-2018050713784
Patient autonomy: The right of patients to make decisions about their medical care without their health care provider trying to influence the decision. Patient autonomy does allow for health care providers to educate the patient but does not allow the health care provider to make the decision for the patient.
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No insults meant to rabbits but seriously doctor, there is no way you can navigate thru this modern world without a combination of IQ and EQ, seeing how humans at any opportunity will take advantage of another.
Uhmm respectfully can see from your post you have no actual understanding what the difference is between IgM IgG and IgA.What we need is more IGM to handle variants, not IGA/igg antibodies that are specific to a particular strain of virus (which is what the MRNA and viral vector vaccines are doing, way too efficient to the point these antibodies that are strain specific outcompetes the IGM therefore acting like an immunosuppressant.)
That's why in people vaccinated with mrna/viral vector vaccines that target only the spike proteins, they have old illness like shingles/herpes coming back , because the antibodies that are supposed to keep these viruses at bay have been flooded out and outcompeted by obsolete Wuhan strain antibodies as a result of obsolete vaccines.
The most important antibodies to handle all covid variants are IGM, and these are NOT what the current vaccines are helping to create. The reason China based vaccines seem to help 'reduce' infection is simply due to them being 'inefficient' and not overgenerating antibodies (specific ones) that drown out the IGM (which is natural to most people). Yes there would be suffering/deaths in these countries that do not use MRNA/viral vector vaccines but the viruses are also not selectively pressured to mutate their spikes to escape immune system so they eventually burn themselves out when the IGM destroys them.
WE NEED IGM ANTIBODIES and this can be achieved by being 'unvaccinated' or 'vaccinated with non viral vector/mrna vaccines that target only the spike proteins)
Even being unvaccinated helps burn the virus out eventually because unvaccinated people STILL HAVE IGM in their system and even though they may suffer, but eventually they will produce MORE ACCURATE and UP TO DATE strain specific antibodies that handles that current strain that is dominant and in circulation, therefore forming clusters of herd immunity and eventually blocking/burning the spread of the variants to a stop.
LEAKY USELESS OUTDATED VACCINES like PFIZER, ASTRAZENECA, SPUTNIK, MODERNA, JNJ are the ones causing the pandemic to be prolonged and helping the variants spread through ADE. They're very good at what they do, FOR THE ORIGINAL STRAIN but once the variants hit, it's all cat and mouse game forever.
mrna folks can jab forever.
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This is a forum for retards hosted by a certifiable cretin
we are here to spew garbage and to confuse and abuse each other
no need to list your post nominal creds and number or publications
just vent your spleen and enjoy
Yeah I agree.
Actually for me it is less to do with EQ now. Is more how accepting I can to demean and self depreciate myself and just agree with whatever patients say.
I only draw the line when they want me to do something against the rules and law and where I will get into trouble and get disciplined sued or go to jail.
Other than that....Say yes! Not EQ lah.
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So can you prescribe me Ivermectin?
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Agreed. I came for the entertainment and stayed on to point out the moronic views of the antivaxxed goons here.
Actually most of them are really ignorant of worldly views and if they weren't so much of an asshole, I would have pitied them. For real. Makes you wonder how they got on with their lives with such stupidity.
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available at the nearest cvs pharmacy.So can you prescribe me Ivermectin?
https://www.cvs.com/drug/ivermectin
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Not outside the Americas… I suppose I can get from my regular tongkat Ali supplier
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made in china knockoffs as tiongs can’t miss an opportunity to make an unscrupulous dime. increased to $6.9 now because of demand.
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Mudland is equally good at this. There was a “tongkat ali” tablet supplier who claimed his tablets were all made of “natural ingredients”… he made a bold claim he was so successful that he was going for Nasdaq listing. Turned out the main ingredients in his table were sildenafil.
For what? Covid?So can you prescribe me Ivermectin?
No I cant. I think if you asked me about using Ivermectin for anythint at this point I would refer you to a specialist.
I am small fry family Dr. Lowest of lowest of all specialties. Looked down and ridiculed. Neither here nor there. Useless according to some specialist but thought to be the greatest specialty by Family Drs themselves.....well many but not all.
I was never keen to become a family Dr. I wanted to be surgeon. Fam med is just a compromise for me so I could go Canada.
I refer you to specialist to ask about Ivermectin can?
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It’s ok, i just have to ask uncle 69 for help. Family medicine is good. I stick to the same GP for decades simply because I can see their genuine desire to help me and family members. Your charitable work extend to the masses and that secured you a nice apartment in heaven, the one with the scenic lake and mountain views.
Driven by Genuine desire or terrifying fear?
For me 69% is the latter lah.
Whats there to "help" really? Customer want I do and provide accordingly. More like maid.
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How can I be a mRNA salesman? I believe vaccinations of any kind offer protection. I even gave you a thumbs up for getting your Sinovac shot. Remember?
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What we need is more IGM to handle variants, not IGA/igg antibodies that are specific to a particular strain of virus (which is what the MRNA and viral vector vaccines are doing, way too efficient to the point these antibodies that are strain specific outcompetes the IGM therefore acting like an immunosuppressant.)
That's why in people vaccinated with mrna/viral vector vaccines that target only the spike proteins, they have old illness like shingles/herpes coming back , because the antibodies that are supposed to keep these viruses at bay have been flooded out and outcompeted by obsolete Wuhan strain antibodies as a result of obsolete vaccines.
The most important antibodies to handle all covid variants are IGM, and these are NOT what the current vaccines are helping to create. The reason China based vaccines seem to help 'reduce' infection is simply due to them being 'inefficient' and not overgenerating antibodies (specific ones) that drown out the IGM (which is natural to most people). Yes there would be suffering/deaths in these countries that do not use MRNA/viral vector vaccines but the viruses are also not selectively pressured to mutate their spikes to escape immune system so they eventually burn themselves out when the IGM destroys them.
WE NEED IGM ANTIBODIES and this can be achieved by being 'unvaccinated' or 'vaccinated with non viral vector/mrna vaccines that target only the spike proteins)
Even being unvaccinated helps burn the virus out eventually because unvaccinated people STILL HAVE IGM in their system and even though they may suffer, but eventually they will produce MORE ACCURATE and UP TO DATE strain specific antibodies that handles that current strain that is dominant and in circulation, therefore forming clusters of herd immunity and eventually blocking/burning the spread of the variants to a stop.
LEAKY USELESS OUTDATED VACCINES like PFIZER, ASTRAZENECA, SPUTNIK, MODERNA, JNJ are the ones causing the pandemic to be prolonged and helping the variants spread through ADE. They're very good at what they do, FOR THE ORIGINAL STRAIN but once the variants hit, it's all cat and mouse game forever.
mrna folks can jab forever.
I'm not a doctor but it is still obvious to me that your are writing crap.
I remember the stuff that my vet told me regarding my dog's vaccination schedule.
IgM is short term immunity
IgG is long term immunity and it is this immunoglobulin that mother passes to puppy.
IgA is to protect the mucous membranes.
Not sure whether it is exactly the same for humans but I'm sure it's close.
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New Study Reports Golden Retrievers Among Breeds with Low IgA Levels
Swedish researchers count Golden Retrievers among eight breeds in which 10 percent or more of adult dogs have low blood immunoglobulin A (IgA) levels. Low levels of IgA are often accompanied by recurrent infections and autoimmune and allergic diseases just as in humans with IgA deficiency.
The study was the first to evaluate IgA in several breeds of dog. Earlier research attributed low IgA levels to conditions such as atopic dermatitis and inflammatory bowel disease in German Shepherd Dogs (Tengvall, et al., 2013) and Chinese Shar-Pei. The current study found that 45 percent of Chinese Shar-Pei and 14 percent of German Shepherd Dogs were low in IgA levels.
“We found IgA concentrations to vary widely among breeds,” says researcher Katarina Tengvall, MSc, a doctorate
student in genetics at Uppsala University in Sweden. “This pronounced difference may explain why there is no established normal range of IgA and accepted cutoff value for low IgA in dogs.”
“These findings are important because low IgA may be associated with an elevated risk of atopic dermatitis (atopy) and inflammatory bowel disease (IBD),” says Rhonda Hovan, research facilitator for the Golden Retriever Club of America (GRCA) and member of the club’s Health & Genetics Committee.
“Atopy and IBD are autoimmune diseases, and Goldens appear to have an elevated risk for a number of autoimmune diseases. The category of autoimmune diseases also includes hypothyroidism (autoimmune thyroiditis), masticatory muscle myositis, autoimmune hemolytic anemia, lupus (systemic lupus erythematosus), Addison’s disease (hypoadrenocorticism), rheumatoid arthritis, and myasthenia gravis.”
A part of the secretory immune system, IgA is an antibody produced by plasma cells, which protect the lining of mucosal sites from pathogens. In people, IgA deficiency is associated with frequent respiratory illness and urinary tract and intestinal infections. In both dogs and people, there is no treatment for low blood IgA; rather, signs of disease are treated to help alleviate illness.
In the May 2014 issue of Veterinary Immunology and Immunopathology, the researchers indicated that low IgA in purebred dogs is likely due to founder effects, breeding practices and reproductive isolation.
“In an earlier study, we reported low IgA concentrations in wolves, the wild ancestor of the domestic dog,” Tengvall says. “Although that study used the Scandinavian wolf population, which is known to be highly inbred with very low genetic variation, this suggests that risk alleles predisposing to low IgA may have been transferred from wolves to dogs during domestication.”
A Model for IgA Deficiency
The Swedish study included 1,267 dogs representing 22 breeds. Blood samples were collected from healthy dogs and those affected by diseases living in the U.S., Sweden and Switzerland in cooperation with their owners and veterinarians. Disease-affected dogs suffered from conditions such as atopic dermatitis, Shar-Pei autoinflammatory disease, Addison’s disease, pancreatic acinar atrophy, diabetes mellitus, and steroid-responsive meningitis arteritis.
Besides 168 Golden Retrievers, the study included 141 Labrador Retrievers and 11 Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers. The findings showed that 13 percent of Golden Retrievers have low IgA, 12 percent of Labrador Retrievers and 20 percent of Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retrievers.
The researchers evaluated the sex of the dogs and whether spaying or neutering contributed to low IgA. In both cases, they found no correlation.
Golden Retrievers were among six new breeds recognized as having an increased risk of low IgA. The other breeds were Hovawart, Norwegian Elkhound, Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever, Bull Terrier, and Labrador Retriever.
Nearly half the Golden Retrievers in the study had signs of canine atopic dermatitis, yet their IgA levels were not much lower than those of unaffected dogs. Despite this finding, it is possible that low IgA levels could be a contributing factor to immune problems in the breed.
“Although a great deal of research has been done to identify the causes of human autoimmune diseases, much less research has been done in dogs,” Hovan says. “Still, the same overall principles of autoimmune disease apply to dogs.”
An online survey conducted by the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals for the Golden Retriever Club of America indicates that 13.4 percent of Golden Retrievers have skin disease, such as atopic dermatitis, says Ann Hubbs, DVM, PhD, chair of the GRCA health and genetics committee. She says about 5 percent of the owners of Golden Retrievers also reported gastrointestinal diseases.
Alan Mundell, DVM, DACBD, a board-certified veterinary dermatologist who practices in Edmonds, Washington, says, “Due to the frequency of skin problems in Goldens, we test for IgA levels as part of our diagnostic workup, especially if a dog shows signs of allergies and infections at a young age. In my experience, Golden Retrievers are among the top four breeds for low IgA levels. Environmental influences are important as well.”
Tengvall agrees. “Genetic and environmental factors contribute to diseases affected by low IgA. The connection between low IgA levels and atopic dermatitis seems to be unique in different breeds because in Golden Retrievers there was no correlation but in German Shepherd Dogs there was.”
“The genetic components of autoimmune diseases are very complex,” Hovan says. “Genes play a role in increasing susceptibility to autoimmune diseases, but environmental triggers initiate the onset of clinical signs. In dogs that are predisposed to autoimmune reactions, there are suspected triggers, but most of the time, it is impossible to know with certainty what triggers the onset of an autoimmune disease.”
The low IgA breeds identified in the study will potentially provide genetic models to help advance understanding of IgA deficiency in people. “Dogs offer an advantageous comparative model for human disease,” Tengvall says.
“We have identified six new potential genetic models of IgA deficiency.”
Thanks to this study, owners and breeders of Golden Retrievers that develop recurrent infections and autoimmune and allergic diseases can now recognize that IgA could be a contributing factor. Insights from the study also will help veterinarians who treat dogs to consider whether low IgA levels may contribute to the dog’s illness. However, as noted by the researchers, additional studies are needed to better understand the implications of low IgA levels in each specific breed, including the Golden Retriever.
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