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Police incompetence, ineffectiveness and poor resource allocation

scroobal

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Is it me or is our Police Force losing the plot.

Yesterday we had a Deputy Asst Commissioner of Police commending his officers for arresting a 46 yr old debtor for failing to change his address and using his NRIC with his unchanged address to get loans from loansharks. Honestly its laughable.

Mind you a debtor, not even a runner, let alone the loanshark or his thugs that carry out harassment. I have no sympathy for debtors who do this and cause a nuisance to the new home owners but a DAC commending his men on such case is a waste of everbody's time and bandwidth.

And why can't they nail the kingpins. Everyone from Lorong 1 to Lorong nth knows who are the few kingpins. These are scums of society who ruin families and and are a scourge of society. This things started in circa 1987 and 26 years later the Police are still chasing their tails. We stopped SS from extortion, bloody turf wars but we can't seem to get rid of them when it comes to loansharking.

We spend so much efforts, manpower, Police resources corralling CJS and his sisters during a protest but we can't seem to get the stuff that causes so much damage to society.
 
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zeddy

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Bro Scroo, this was my reply to an earlier post..

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread....ted-for-providing-false-address-to-loansharks

Just last week the Poodles gave a motherhood press release telling the world they launched a massive crackdown and arrested 200 people for loanshark offences..

All these guys caught were just small fishes.. The Biggies and their lieutenants are still out there enjoying life.. Many people were applauding the Poodles on the SPF facebook for a good job done..

These people are plain naive.. They still do not realise that our useless Poodles are still not doing enough to eradicate this irritating cancer that is plaguing our society..
 

Grace

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Is it me or is our Police Force losing the plot.

Yesterday we had a Deputy Asst Commissioner of Police commending his officers for arresting a 46 yr old debtor for failing to change his address and using his NRIC with his unchanged address to get loans from loansharks.

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its a honest mistake.
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Lets move on.
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lesMISERABLES

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@ scroobal

Have you read Hee-Haw Malu Money's most enlightening piece to date? It's titled "Singapore's biggest blessing: Safety" and appeared on April 13, 2013, page B38. It specifically targets posters like you. No offense.

Below is the full article:

Singapore's biggest blessing: Safety

Trust in public institutions like the police is not a given and needs to be nurtured. Will the blogosphere choose cynicism, or seek common ground to protect public institutions?

By Kishore Mahbubani For The Straits Times


AS SINGAPORE undergoes its mighty, irresistible metamorphosis over this coming decade, it is vital for it to ensure that it does not lose some painfully acquired blessings in the process.

In my previous column For The Straits Times, I had asked readers to share their views on my thoughts about Singapore's metamorphosis. I had said the soul of Singapore is being redefined, and that Singaporean society can either emerge as a happy butterfly, flitting around in a garden city, or as a lonely frog, croaking away unhappily in a little well.

I am grateful for the over 50 readers who responded and for their comments. They have helped shape my thinking for this column, and provided food for thought for future ones.

One of the biggest blessings Singapore has is that it is one of the safest cities in the world.

The level of safety we enjoy is a true miracle. Switzerland enjoys the same level of public safety. But it is surrounded by Europe. When you cross the border out of Switzerland, you continue to experience the same level of safety. But when you cross out of the border of Singapore, you may not. In short, we have to workextremely hard to preserve this cocoon of extraordinary public safety.

Some of it is clearly due to the very successful Singapore Police Force (SPF) we have. But the SPF is only one unit within an ecosystem of excellent public institutions delivering this high level of safety. The social trust that Singaporeans and Singapore residents have in this ecosystem is one key reason why our city is safe.

Worrying cynicism

THIS is why I am extremely worried about the cynicism that the Singaporean blogosphere is developing towards these public institutions. Over time this cynicism could act like an acid that erodes the valuable social trust accumulated. Yes, let me concede that some of the online criticisms are justified. For example, the escape of Mas Salamat Kastari was a major failure.

Against this backdrop, I watched carefully the reaction of the blogosphere to the Shane Todd affair. Dr Todd, 31, an American researcher, was found hanged in his apartment here last June after he quit the Institute of Microelectronics (IME) which is part of the Agency for Science, Technology and Research.

We will have to await the outcome of the coroner's inquiry to find out what really happened.

This is why I was appalled that US Senator Max Baucus jumped the gun and tried to pressure Singapore by forcing Singapore to give the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) oversight of the case before the Coroner's Court had completed its inquiry.

This goes against all international laws and norms. The United States would never allow a foreign police force to oversee an FBI investigation. Nor would it allow any foreign intervention into its judicial inquiry process.

What makes this even more absurd is that any objective investigation will show that the SPF is at least as competent, if not more competent, than the FBI.

Why do I say this? Having lived in the US for over 10 years, I have observed that while Singapore has moved from Third World to First World in its public institutions, many of America's public institutions are going in the opposite direction.

The best minds in America do not go into lifetime public service careers. The best minds in Singapore do.

This is why the trust and confidence in Singapore's public institutions remain high overall.

Kudos to blogosphere

I WAS therefore heartened to see that the Singapore blogosphere did not unthinkingly support the American position. Some of the more popular blogs were pretty hostile to the idea of the FBI interfering in a domestic investigation. This has given me some hope that we can try and find some middle ground between the mainstream media and the blogosphere.

In this middle ground, we should reach clear agreement that some of Singapore's painfully developed public institutions should be protected and strengthened, like the SPF.

If we don't develop this middle ground and if a significant percentage of Singaporeans begin to demonstrate a lack of trust in our public institutions, trouble may begin brewing around the corner. This lack of trust can suddenly manifest itself in different ways.

Let me suggest one hypothetical scenario.

We have had quite a few MRT breakdowns in recent years. Thousands of people were inconvenienced.

Fortunately, each incident passed peacefully. The peaceful outcomes reflected the high level of trust that Singaporeans have in their public institutions. They saw each incident as an aberration - not indicating the emergence of a new pattern of decline. But this perception could well change if MRT disruptions persist.

Clearly, the public standing of train operator SMRT has been declining. When I served as Singapore's Ambassador to the United Nations from 1984 to 1989, my American counterpart was the legendary Ambassador Vernon Walters. His hobby was to visit and investigate every MRT system in the world. He proudly told me that having done so, he could confidently say the Singapore MRT system was the best in the world.

I asked why. He said it was the only MRT system in the world that had been built ahead of schedule, below cost and functioned smoothly.

Clearly this is no longer the case. The big question is: what went wrong? Was it a mistake to emphasise the short-term private sector profits rather than the long-term public good that the SMRT is supposed to provide?

All this brings me to the hypothetical scenario. If we have another major MRT breakdown, combined with declining trust in public institutions, we may have the perfect combination for a riot or two. We have been free from riots for almost 40 years. The reasons were simple: rising living standards and rising trust in public institutions. But if this trust becomes a declining commodity and if a major public service performs badly, it would be unwise to expect the same level of social harmony.

In short, it would be a mistake to take our high level of public safety for granted. It is the result of a very complex ecosystem of public institutions that still enjoys a high level of trust among Singaporeans.

However, if the blogosphere and the mainstream media cannot agree on a core consensus of preserving and supporting key public institutions, we could end up with a messier Singapore, becoming an unhappy frog rather than a happy butterfly.

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BTW the office of Malu-Money confirmed to me that SMRT is a public institution...LOL
 

zeddy

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Some of it is clearly due to the very successful Singapore Police Force (SPF) we have. But the SPF is only one unit within an ecosystem of excellent public institutions delivering this high level of safety. The social trust that Singaporeans and Singapore residents have in this ecosystem is one key reason why our city is safe.

Kishore is talking cock.. Typical loyal PAP cocksucking cunt who lives in an ivory tower and is oblivious to what is really happening in all HDB estates around the country.. All public housing estates in S'pore are affected by the Ah Long menace..

Its a disgrace that with the latest technology that the Poodles have at their disposal, they are still unable to arrest any Ah Long kingpins and their syndicates.. In short, these low life scums are making a fool out of our Police Force..
 
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Narong Wongwan

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They tried with half fuck effort to sweep problem under the carpet by leegalizing loansharks to become leegal moneylender........that din work.
They toyed with idea of making it illeegal for people to borrow from loansharks.......arresting the chicks instead of the eagle......did not implement.
Decided to close one eye act blur as this is a peasant heartlanders problem......elite masters not affected.....NFA.
 

scroobal

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Bro, this guy began drinking his own cool-aide for the last 15 years. He is so drunk on it that he is not only incoherent but no longer relevant. I remember how he became the flag-bearer for Singapore style confucian ethics as the guiding philosophy when old man first mooted it.

Ask him the basis for detaining a man for 32 years - the world longest prisoner of conscience. I would love to see him explain that one in an objective manner including throwing in his version of confucian ethics into it.

And he is talking about "social trust" when it should be "rule by fear"



@ scroobal

Have you read Hee-Haw Malu Money's most enlightening piece to date? It's titled "Singapore's biggest blessing: Safety" and appeared on April 13, 2013, page B38. It specifically targets posters like you. No offense.

Below is the full article:

Singapore's biggest blessing: Safety

Trust in public institutions like the police is not a given and needs to be nurtured. Will the blogosphere choose cynicism, or seek common ground to protect public institutions?

By Kishore Mahbubani For The Straits Times


AS SINGAPORE undergoes its mighty, irresistible metamorphosis over this coming decade, it is vital for it to ensure that it does not lose some painfully acquired blessings in the process.

In my previous column For The Straits Times, I had asked readers to share their views on my thoughts about Singapore's metamorphosis. I had said the soul of Singapore is being redefined, and that Singaporean society can either emerge as a happy butterfly, flitting around in a garden city, or as a lonely frog, croaking away unhappily in a little well.

I am grateful for the over 50 readers who responded and for their comments. They have helped shape my thinking for this column, and provided food for thought for future ones.

One of the biggest blessings Singapore has is that it is one of the safest cities in the world.

The level of safety we enjoy is a true miracle. Switzerland enjoys the same level of public safety. But it is surrounded by Europe. When you cross the border out of Switzerland, you continue to experience the same level of safety. But when you cross out of the border of Singapore, you may not. In short, we have to workextremely hard to preserve this cocoon of extraordinary public safety.

Some of it is clearly due to the very successful Singapore Police Force (SPF) we have. But the SPF is only one unit within an ecosystem of excellent public institutions delivering this high level of safety. The social trust that Singaporeans and Singapore residents have in this ecosystem is one key reason why our city is safe.

Worrying cynicism

THIS is why I am extremely worried about the cynicism that the Singaporean blogosphere is developing towards these public institutions. Over time this cynicism could act like an acid that erodes the valuable social trust accumulated. Yes, let me concede that some of the online criticisms are justified. For example, the escape of Mas Salamat Kastari was a major failure.

Against this backdrop, I watched carefully the reaction of the blogosphere to the Shane Todd affair. Dr Todd, 31, an American researcher, was found hanged in his apartment here last June after he quit the Institute of Microelectronics (IME) which is part of the Agency for Science, Technology and Research.

We will have to await the outcome of the coroner's inquiry to find out what really happened.

This is why I was appalled that US Senator Max Baucus jumped the gun and tried to pressure Singapore by forcing Singapore to give the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) oversight of the case before the Coroner's Court had completed its inquiry.

This goes against all international laws and norms. The United States would never allow a foreign police force to oversee an FBI investigation. Nor would it allow any foreign intervention into its judicial inquiry process.

What makes this even more absurd is that any objective investigation will show that the SPF is at least as competent, if not more competent, than the FBI.

Why do I say this? Having lived in the US for over 10 years, I have observed that while Singapore has moved from Third World to First World in its public institutions, many of America's public institutions are going in the opposite direction.

The best minds in America do not go into lifetime public service careers. The best minds in Singapore do.

This is why the trust and confidence in Singapore's public institutions remain high overall.

Kudos to blogosphere

I WAS therefore heartened to see that the Singapore blogosphere did not unthinkingly support the American position. Some of the more popular blogs were pretty hostile to the idea of the FBI interfering in a domestic investigation. This has given me some hope that we can try and find some middle ground between the mainstream media and the blogosphere.

In this middle ground, we should reach clear agreement that some of Singapore's painfully developed public institutions should be protected and strengthened, like the SPF.

If we don't develop this middle ground and if a significant percentage of Singaporeans begin to demonstrate a lack of trust in our public institutions, trouble may begin brewing around the corner. This lack of trust can suddenly manifest itself in different ways.

Let me suggest one hypothetical scenario.

We have had quite a few MRT breakdowns in recent years. Thousands of people were inconvenienced.

Fortunately, each incident passed peacefully. The peaceful outcomes reflected the high level of trust that Singaporeans have in their public institutions. They saw each incident as an aberration - not indicating the emergence of a new pattern of decline. But this perception could well change if MRT disruptions persist.

Clearly, the public standing of train operator SMRT has been declining. When I served as Singapore's Ambassador to the United Nations from 1984 to 1989, my American counterpart was the legendary Ambassador Vernon Walters. His hobby was to visit and investigate every MRT system in the world. He proudly told me that having done so, he could confidently say the Singapore MRT system was the best in the world.

I asked why. He said it was the only MRT system in the world that had been built ahead of schedule, below cost and functioned smoothly.

Clearly this is no longer the case. The big question is: what went wrong? Was it a mistake to emphasise the short-term private sector profits rather than the long-term public good that the SMRT is supposed to provide?

All this brings me to the hypothetical scenario. If we have another major MRT breakdown, combined with declining trust in public institutions, we may have the perfect combination for a riot or two. We have been free from riots for almost 40 years. The reasons were simple: rising living standards and rising trust in public institutions. But if this trust becomes a declining commodity and if a major public service performs badly, it would be unwise to expect the same level of social harmony.

In short, it would be a mistake to take our high level of public safety for granted. It is the result of a very complex ecosystem of public institutions that still enjoys a high level of trust among Singaporeans.

However, if the blogosphere and the mainstream media cannot agree on a core consensus of preserving and supporting key public institutions, we could end up with a messier Singapore, becoming an unhappy frog rather than a happy butterfly.

********************************************

BTW the office of Malu-Money confirmed to me that SMRT is a public institution...LOL
 
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jw5

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Bro, this guy began drinking his own cool-aide for the last 15 years. He is so drunk on it that he is not only incoherent but no longer relevant. I remember how he became the flag-bearer for Singapore style confucian ethics as the guiding philosophy when old man first mooted it.

Mark my words, he's not that different from you. LOL.
 

jw5

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scroobal

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The policy wonks and the politicians live in Good Class Bungalows. It is not loanshark territory. They have no idea about innocent Singaporeans who are prisoners in their own flat with no idea when their door will be burnt, the walls smeared, the locks glued etc.

These loansharks are now scamming innocent phone owners with allegations of non-existent prior loans. To avoid further harassment and assuage their fear, they actually credit the accounts of these thugs hoping that they will go away.

We are certainly losing the war. And Kishore Mahbubani thinks that we have a safe city.

They tried with half fuck effort to sweep problem under the carpet by leegalizing loansharks to become leegal moneylender........that din work.
They toyed with idea of making it illeegal for people to borrow from loansharks.......arresting the chicks instead of the eagle......did not implement.
Decided to close one eye act blur as this is a peasant heartlanders problem......elite masters not affected.....NFA.
 

scroobal

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They have previously detained Ah Long San's brother under CLPS but no effect. The whole enterprise was still buzzing along despite both brother were locked up.

The proceeds of crime approach has been under utilised and seizure of property and assets are not existent. The tax evasion angle which they chased Francis Seow and Tang Liang Hong is never used. If you start seizing their cars, their homes, their deposits in banks, these guys will wake up. Though some of them operate from outside the country, they money trail always begins from Singapore.

Fucked up Govt and they expect to do well in GE 2011. Who do you think the victims of the harassment and their relatives will vote for.

Kishore is talking cock.. Typical loyal PAP cocksucking cunt who lives in an ivory tower and is oblivious to what is really happening in all HDB estates around the country.. All public housing estates in S'pore are affected by the Ah Long menace..

Its a disgrace that with the latest technology that the Poodles have at their disposal, they are still unable to arrest any Ah Long kingpins and their syndicates.. In short, these low life scums are making a fool out of our Police Force..
 
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Mdm Tang

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T Title : "Police incompetence, ineffectiveness and poor resource allocation"

my reading of your Thread Title is on the contrary.

be patience .

my guess after NBG and PL case a few Boss of the Bosses will be sacrificed .


ah L S case is good eg .
 
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