Police Commissioner wants 1,000 more policeman, only sprinters need apply

[AntiPAPunk]

This!

What "This" ???

 

[bhoven]

GLK is now Sr Director in MHA. May have retired. Yup, screwed up during secondment. George Yeo was his boss then.

AK not AB.



Shld be WDA not WFA.

Tks for the corrections, GD.

 

[3_M]

He is just using manpower shortage as an excuse for SPF incompetence and poor planning. Geylang and little India is hardly Wild Wild West. You hardly see any police petrol in every corner there. If it so, poodle would had responded more swiftly to the event that lead to the riot.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Tks for the corrections, GD.

No worries. You are welcome.

 

[melzp]

SPF needs to go back to basics. What went wrong? Geylang can never be on par or worse than LI in terms of law and order. Just compare the numbers. I am no racist. But police experience tells me that Indians are more aggressive when they outnumber you and when intoxicated compared to Chinese. Decades of Thaipusam coverage cant be wrong. You dont get such lawlessness in events organised by mosques, churches and Chinese temples.

Reminds me of incident at Woodland Dorm. whereby 3 illegal cig sellers were held for beating an Indian; until Polis arrive. The Indians were dancing n singing. Indian crowd were about 3 to 400. . Then the 4th cig guy came with a chopper to rescue his 3 friends who then all escaped from the mob. What a laughter that all dispersed over a chopper.

 

[steffychun]

why do you think people don't wan to bunk with Indians in NS?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Reminds me of incident at Woodland Dorm. whereby 3 illegal cig sellers were held for beating an Indian; until Polis arrive. The Indians were dancing n singing. Indian crowd were about 3 to 400. . Then the 4th cig guy came with a chopper to rescue his 3 friends who then all escaped from the mob. What a laughter that all dispersed over a chopper.

Imagine if the 4th guy came with a revolver. And we are told if outnumbered must hold the ground. Bloody joke.

 

[rushifa666]

Can anyone tell me why there is no police post in little India or geylang? Isn't this where the posts are supposed to be place?

 

[Papsmearer]

Can anyone tell me why there is no police post in little India or geylang? Isn't this where the posts are supposed to be place?

The SPF has already given up this territory of Little India to apunehs. Its like annexation of Crimea by Russia. They don't dare to go in there. Much less put up a police post.

 

[steffychun]

Can anyone tell me why there is no police post in little India or geylang? Isn't this where the posts are supposed to be place?

they are cowards.

 

[winnipegjets]

they are cowards.

Why would the ground poodles put their lives in danger when the top brass are chickens and will make scapegoats of anyone to protect their rears?

 

[Tuayapeh]

He is just using manpower shortage as an excuse for SPF incompetence and poor planning. Geylang and little India is hardly Wild Wild West. You hardly see any police petrol in every corner there. If it so, poodle would had responded more swiftly to the event that lead to the riot.

yeah ....give this karmlan kiah another 10000 police to run and hide is it?

it is not a fucking m,anpower problem....


it is a systemic problem with the lack of depth and institutional knowledge within the organisation as a result of having so many of these stupid pwabye scholars in there who only know how to talk and talk and talkj and know nothing about the ground and the true needs of polciing....


fuck you cheebye scholars!!

 

[Papsmearer]

yeah ....give this karmlan kiah another 10000 police to run and hide is it?

it is not a fucking m,anpower problem....


it is a systemic problem with the lack of depth and institutional knowledge within the organisation as a result of having so many of these stupid pwabye scholars in there who only know how to talk and talk and talkj and know nothing about the ground and the true needs of polciing....


fuck you cheebye scholars!!

that is true. If fellow apuneh Vincent Wijeysingha held a rally with 100 other oppos in Little India, first responding SPF brass would be tripping over each other to call in the riot police.

 

[Tuayapeh]

The SPF has already given up this territory of Little India to apunehs. Its like annexation of Crimea by Russia. They don't dare to go in there. Much less put up a police post.

policepost good mah.......can hide inside, sitdown, eat maggi mee, call for suppork and have aircon running....not like inside of an ambulance

 

[Tuayapeh]

that is true. If fellow apuneh Vincent Wijeysingha held a rally with 100 other oppos in Little India, first responding SPF brass would be tripping over each other to call in the riot police.

no need man.....just see what happened during the peaceful procession by Chee and His sister and the police 'response" gao liao loh........


only goes to show one thing....they are fucking lapdogs eager to serve the dastardly purposes of their political masters!!!!

 

[palden]

Hahaha. Might as well as for the army to be under him during peace time.
If there is no balls, giving him another 1000 just makes the next incident looks like a bigger marathon.

39,000 police man in the SPF not enough for this small island. Compare this with NYPD who has only 34,000 personnel and responsible for an area twice as big (1214 sq km) and much larger population (over 8 million, many armed with guns), and who do real police work like go after drug gangs and terrorist. Ng Chai Jiu He here has the audacity to ask for 1000 more men using the Little India riots as an excuse. Fucker should have his manpower cut seeing as how useless they are. The SPF is already fat and bloated and evidently useless and he wants to make it fatter. Anyway, I am sure there will be a 100m sprint as part of the physical test for the 1000 new policemen. Must run run very fast meh.

Police Commissioner Ng Joo Hee has asked for 1,000 more police officers to give the force "much needed strategic depth".

Also on his wishlist, stated on Tuesday at the hearing into the riot that broke out in Little India on Dec 8 last year: an extra Police Tactical Troop to be placed on standby at any time, thereby raising the number of available troops from two to three. He also hopes to ramp up the number of boots in Little India and Geylang, saying that 150 more officers are required in each location to bolster police visibility.

"(This is) so that we can police Little India and Geylang better, so that we can reinforce our thin lines in the neighbourhoods and communities in the rest of the country, so that we may continue to keep Singapore safe," he told the Committee of Inquiry, adding that there is "some truth" in the refrain that one hardly sees police officers roaming the streets of Singapore.

"We frequently have to rob Peter to pay Paul, as was the case when we keep reducing the size of our anti-riot troopers to fund other capabilities," he said, of the constraints in headcount and budget. "I have never been satisfied with the situation in Geylang or Little India, but I accept the fact that we can do little more with the resources that we currently can muster."

 

[Papsmearer]

policepost good mah.......can hide inside, sitdown, eat maggi mee, call for suppork and have aircon running....not like inside of an ambulance

Even so, they still needed to be tested for 100m dash first.

 

[KNNBNBCB]

Even so, they still needed to be tested for 100m dash first.

For poodles stationed at little india police post, they need to be tested on how fast they can pull down the metal gates of the police post and make it into 'safe house' mode.

 

[Papsmearer]

Hahaha. Might as well as for the army to be under him during peace time.
If there is no balls, giving him another 1000 just makes the next incident looks like a bigger marathon.

I don't understand why NSmen cannot do reservist duty as combines soldier/police patrol. U don't have enough police, you just supplement your patrol with SAF personnel in SBO. Maybe 2 SPF personnel lead 6 SAF personnel, with fully loaded SAR-21. They don't have to arrest any body, that will be done by SPF. They are just there to back up the SPF and cover them. Also good form of urban warfare training, and pacification patrol for the SAF. I have seen both army and SPF patrol Changi Airport, why can't they do that for geylang and Little India?

 

[bic_cherry]

"As of last December, the Singapore Police Force has just under 8,800 regular officers, supported by about 3,700 full-time national servicemen and 2,000 volunteer policemen."

3700/(8,800 + 3700) = ~30%

Add volunteers:
3700 + 2,000/(8,800 + 3700 + 2,000)= ~39.3%

So up to 40% of the force are probably paid allowance $ only: probably even less than the rioting foreign talents themselves, the more senior possibly even being paid around $1,000 IIRC.

Looks like Mr Tee Tua Bah thinks he is N Korea Kim Jong En commanding his army, anything not happy is take out gun: piew piew piew: in the following style:

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Aka Saddam Hussein shoot the gun style:

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Being adored for everything as COI member that he says.

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1,000 more cops needed to boost force: Police chief
Goal is to raise additional tactical unit, have more patrols in key areas
Top of The News | Updated today at 01:35 AM
By Francis Chan Assistant News Editor
TO BEEF up the anti-riot capability of the police while keeping Singapore safe, Commissioner of Police Ng Joo Hee wants to recruit 1,000 more officers.
The police chief made this passionate plea at the end of his testimony yesterday before the Committee of Inquiry (COI) into the Dec 8 riot.
The extra manpower will let him raise an additional tactical troop specialised in tackling riots and police hot spots, and increase the number of officers who patrol the streets and neighbourhoods. It would also allow the police to train its front-line officers better.
The COI, led by retired judge G. Pannir Selvam, had over the course of the public hearing, questioned why police patrolmen were not adequately trained to deal with the unrest.
The 47-year-old - who was testifying at the COI for the first time since it was convened - said that a move to train officers to deal with the "initial moments" of a riot more effectively is now being considered. But that will involve "large and persistent investments in manpower and in training".
Already, front-line officers work a four-shift system lasting 12 hours each, leaving them with very little time for training of any sort. That is why Mr Ng feels that training these officers to fight riots under the current shift system is "quite impossible".
"If we were a football team, we would be a team that spends most of our time playing matches and very little time training," he said.
"And in my view, that is quite incredible and not a desirable situation... I think we have to rethink the system and we have to certainly get more resources if we want to do that."
A key reason for the manpower crunch in the force, added Mr Ng, is because its ranks have not kept pace with Singapore's population growth over the years.
In 1994, there were 222 officers for every 100,000 residents here. Now there are 163.
This also affects the size of anti-riot squads, better known as Police Tactical Troops (PTT) under the Special Operations Command.
The first time these specialised units were restructured was in 1983, when 12 troops of 63 men were cut to just eight troops, each with 46 men. In 2004, the number per troop was cut to 35.
As of last December, the Singapore Police Force has just under 8,800 regular officers, supported by about 3,700 full-time national servicemen and 2,000 volunteer policemen.
"If you look at cities of comparable sizes like Hong Kong, Tokyo, New York, London, you will find that they typically operate with two or three times more police officers than we do per resident in Singapore," said Mr Ng.
"So there is some truth in the common refrain that one hardly comes across police officers on the streets of Singapore. But at the same time, we are able to deliver safety from crime that is still the envy of the world."
Mr Ng told the COI that the way to "increase police robustness before the next disturbance comes around is to build up rather than to cut down on our contingency forces.
"My intention, if I have the resources, is to raise an additional PTT to be on standby at any one time. If we are able to do this, we can increase our rioting fighting capability by 50 per cent and create the ability to bring a far larger force to bear to an incident."
In addition to augmenting the PTT, Mr Ng said it is critical to project a stronger police presence in areas where there is a congregation of foreign workers and that "pose a clear and present danger to public order", aside from Little India. "Today, despite the riot in Little India, I worry more for Geylang," he said. "If Singaporeans are irked by the littering, the noise and the jaywalking in Little India, they'll certainly and quickly sense that there exists a hint of lawlessness in Geylang."
A deployment of 300 pairs of boots on the ground should bring noticeable police visibility to both locations, added Mr Ng. But efforts to maintain law and order in Geylang and Little India have "already stretched police resources to near breaking point".
"My planners tell me that police presence is defined as a police patrol passing a point once every 15 to 20 minutes... This is a useful benchmark, but one which we cannot come close to achieving in either Little India or Geylang on present levels of resourcing."
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NOT DELIBERATELY SLOW
I agree that our contingency forces were delayed in responding to the incident; this delay was not due to the troopers being deliberately tardy... I concede that if the troops had come earlier, certainly we would have quelled the disorder earlier.
- Commissioner of Police Ng Joo Hee