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[duluxe]

There are many recent fallacies in islam, including fallacies that there's only one version of the quran. Even the islamic religious rituals were fallacies that didn't exist until the hadiths were compiled 250 years after the uthman version of the quran.

Another fallacy is tudung law and rationale. If the rationale can make any sense, it would mean before that all non arab muslims have been practicing islam wrong.

Before islam, due to climate condition males and females living in middle east they both cover their head. Is is also a pre islamic culture for high class persian ladies to cover their face.

 

[JohnTan]

Another fallacy is tudung law and rationale. If the rationale can make any sense, it would mean before that all non arab muslims have been practicing islam wrong.

All moslems today have been practicing islam wrong. The moslems of today portray mahomet like an islamic version of Jesus - perfect, spotless. But even in the moslem qurans, mahomet did not claim himself to be perfect. He admitted that he fucked up often and need to pray for forgiveness. My point here is not to condemn mahomet for fucking up, because all of us sinned. My point is that centuries ago in the moslem religion, moslems did not portray mahomet as a perfect, sinless being.

I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying." By Allah! I ask for forgiveness from Allah and turn to Him in repentance more than seventy times a day." - Sahih al-Bukhari 6307

 

[syed putra]

I heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying." By Allah! I ask for forgiveness from Allah and turn to Him in repentance more than seventy times a day." - Sahih al-Bukhari 6307

You are quoting from the hadith which you slready said cannot be corroborated.

 

[syed putra]

Before islam, due to climate condition males and females living in middle east they both cover their head. Is is also a pre islamic culture for high class persian ladies to cover their face.

The pre Islamic culture which influenced the arabs were Christians and jews, they too use to cover their heads. Nun still continue the tradition.

 

[JohnTan]

You are quoting from the hadith which you slready said cannot be corroborated.

I'm quoting from the hadith, which is taken as scripture by mainstream moslems. If the hadith cannot be coorobrated as you claim, then moslems and their scholars should ask themselves why they still want to use such a book to fill in the missing gaps of the quran.

It's only in recent years that a small handful of moslems want to totally reject the hadith because it makes their modern present version of islam look barbaric and really dumb. moslems in the past were ok with the hadith because for their time, the sayings of the hadith doesn't seem so dumb. Their idea of mahomet was also different.

 

[syed putra]

I'm quoting from the hadith, which is taken as scripture by mainstream moslems. If the hadith cannot be coorobrated as you claim, then moslems and their scholars should ask themselves why they still want to use such a book to fill in the missing gaps of the quran.

It's only in recent years that a small handful of moslems want to totally reject the hadith because it makes their modern present version of islam look barbaric and really dumb. moslems in the past were ok with the hadith because for their time, the sayings of the hadith doesn't seem so dumb. Their idea of mahomet was also different.

There were objections to the hadith from far away Moslem lands. But they eventually were silenced by means of war and subjugation.

 

[JohnTan]

There were objections to the hadith from far away Moslem lands. But they eventually were silenced by means of war and subjugation.

Our local islamists made it clear that moslems are expected to accept islamic religious teachings from both the quran and hadith. moslems who read only from the quran are deemed as heretics or even apostates.

 

[syed putra]

Our local islamists made it clear that moslems are expected to accept islamic religious teachings from both the quran and hadith. moslems who read only from the quran are deemed as heretics or even apostates.

I think the basis of the belief is in one supreme being and not in any book.
Maybe that was why mahomet never did print any copy of what he said