PAP HQ thanks all TJS Supporters.

[Seee3]

Are the TCB's supporters who are blaming TJS sore loser, emotional or .... For me, I am pissed off not because TCB has lost or TT has won. More because of the silly action of a self-proclaimed intellect that allows such simple plot to be carried out so easily.

From the very beginning, any bird with a brain and who know some simple arithmetic will know that to win, you cannot campaign with strong anti-establishment aggression. Those adopting such an approach is telling us that he/she does not understand %, does not know how to classify voters ... and worst of all, has no basic logical thinking ability.

Politics is a dirty game which we must accept. Anyone who cannot see through such a simple scheme should stay out of it than be a hindrance or a cause frustration to others.

 

[PTADER]

Why not blame the rigged elections department for allowing a four-corner fight in the first place?
Why not blame the Almighty for being born in Spore?

In the 2009 Indonesian Presidential election, 3 sets of candidates (a pair consisting of a President and Vice-President contestant) stood and ran for office.

The Indonesian electoral system requires a run-off involving the top two winners after the first round is held. This run-off was not held as it was not required. This was because Bambang won more than 60.8% in the first round alone over Megawati (26.70%) and Jusuf Kalla (12.41%).

So all this blame game is nothing but rubbish from those who are sore that their candidate of choice did not win. No point ranting and raving and blaming anyone and everyone.

If none of the four candidates can persuade the required numbers amongst a miniscule base of 2.2 million voters - unlike Bambang who had to persuade 60.8% from a base of 121 million plus voters - to cross the line for a convincing win or even to be the best "loser" (all 4 secured below 50%) like what Bambang did for the 2009 Indonesian election, then they and their supporters only have themselves to blame.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

That's the stupidiest thing i've ever heard. Only voters can decide who gets to office hence only VOTERS are to be blamed

Yes blame the voters.
Even if 10 corners if voters reject TT outright no need to come here to blame the candidates.
Those old ignorant voters brain washed ones are less culpable, even those connected supporters with benefits to reaped are less culpable. It those kiasu kiasi sinkies voters afraid of change are to be blamed.

 

[Debonerman]

Yes blame the voters.
Even if 10 corners if voters reject TT outright no need to come here to blame the candidates.
Those old ignorant voters brain washed ones are less culpable, even those connected supporters with benefits to reaped are less culpable. It those kiasu kiasi sinkies voters afraid of change are to be blamed.

Ask 90% of those who had voted for Tony Tan if they know anything about Patrick Tan, they'll answer Patrick who????

 

[Varuna]

This is a collateral damage that they would love to see happening. It is a double joy for them. First, a secured seat for TT in Istana. Second, further divide within the anti-PAP supporters from the aftermath of the lost. This scenario is predicted from the very first day the 4 decided to run although we all hoped otherwise. Do not give TT and their people another reason to celebrate.

 

[travelbug]

"Winning" with such numbers is an even bigger calamity and a curse for Phony than losing outright.

He can't quietly fade away. He will continue to remain in the spotlight for the next 6 years and by being in the spotlight, his three sons' unresolved and unanswered NS issues will continue to be in the spotlight.

His heart and that of the PAP will beat and thump with fear at every public appearances he makes - particularly at NDP - over the next six years as he and his PAP masters wonder whether he will booed and jeered.

This is death by a thousand cuts for Phony rather than a "win". I am sure Phony secretly wished that he had lost so that he can be out of the spotlight and he and his three sons can get on with their lives.

Don't think so lah. Tony Tan is numb becos he is from a very wealthy family that does not understand the common man's causes. He is in disbelief that such an elite man like himself can be subject to any blame.

He will just cruise thru his 6 year presidency numb to the masses and only listen to the super elites.

 

[winners]

Excellent Analysis. One wonders what more sabo-ing TJS would do next.

This fox is already letting his tail out: He said that he'll now consider to rejoin the SDP. A traitor indeed.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

This fox is already letting his tail out: He said that he'll now consider to rejoin the SDP. A traitor indeed.

The real traitors are the 35% who voted for TT.

 

[winners]

The real traitors are the 35% who voted for TT.

I have already said before, there are at least 33% of the elites in Singapore. These are the super rich, the hard core of PAP supporters. They will never betray the PAPies because they always believe that the government policies are all good and correct. They bring in foreign direct investments, international investment banks and these in turn create great business opportunities for these 33% and especially for their future offspring to continue to make very very good money and build enormous wealth. I personally have also know some of this group of people and they will swear they won't swing their vote against the PAPies. Owing to these 33% of elites, the average Singaporeans will just have to continue to live with their miseries. The future is that Singapore is for the very rich and elites only.

 

[Varuna]

The real traitors are the 35% who voted for TT.

While it was a huge disappointment, it also shows a clearer picture how many people are standing alongside PAP's favourite candidate. It was not a sweet victory for them. PAP will have a harder time next time. WE must stand united and point our gun barrels outwards in the right direction.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

I have already said before, there are at least 33% of the elites in Singapore. These are the super rich, the hard core of PAP supporters. They will never betray the PAPies because they always believe that the government policies are all good and correct. They bring in foreign direct investments, international investment banks and these in turn create great business opportunities for these 33% and especially for their future offspring to continue to make very very good money and build enormous wealth. I personally have also know some of this group of people and they will swear they won't swing their vote against the PAPies. Owing to these 33% of elites, the average Singaporeans will just have to continue to live with their miseries. The future is that Singapore is for the very rich and elites only.

I doubt it's 33% so high for those with direct benefits.
Do not discount those old uneducated brain washed heartlander with only TV and newspaper access.
Or those kiasu kiasi who are too afraid of change and those who think there will be payback for voting against the pap.

 

[MightyMouse]

Wow finally wise words from sum1 here..yes2 agree..and now blame TJS and even Nicole Seah, Jeanette & co for endorsing TJS..haiz very2 sad..

The single biggest why TJS is being blamed is that the PEC bend over backwards to award the COE to him. HE IS CLEARLY NOT ELIGIBLE BY ANY COUNT. Anyone who feels that what he did as MD of the funds management company qualifies him to run under the PRESENT CONSTITUTION is clearly deluding himself.

On the other hand, I fully respect TKL's right to participate in the contest. He has earned the rights by his appointment as CEO of NTUC Income and can decide to contest or otherwise based on his own assessment of the situation. In his case, his only showed a lack of judgement by contesting when it is clear that TJS has became the flag bearer for the anti-PAP segment and that he will not have any chance whatsoever. Notwithstanding that, he earned the right to contest and to lose the 48,000 deposit.

 

[PTADER]

The single biggest why TJS is being blamed is that the PEC bend over backwards to award the COE to him. HE IS CLEARLY NOT ELIGIBLE BY ANY COUNT. Anyone who feels that what he did as MD of the funds management company qualifies him to run under the PRESENT CONSTITUTION is clearly deluding himself.

Let's put it this way. If TJS had won, there would be a similar gnashing of teeth by those whose choice of candidate did not win.

This would include those like that little boy from WP (Melvin) who, unlike others, is honest enough to say it but really daft and stupid to actually think a TJS win is "good" for the SDP's and/or NSP's political fortunes but "bad" for his party, the Worker's Party.

Hence, this little boy's silly, myopic argument that TJS should not be supported. It is WP Law Shin Leong all over again.

If not "eligibility", it would be TJS' "career" record or some other rubbish reasons pluck out from their arse or the thin air. I won't be surprised if even TJS' nostril hair is blamed.

 

[borom]

The biggest winners are the foreigners(Pinoys,PRC's,Indian FT's) who will continue to flood into this place with their fake qualifications and steal jobs and places in school from locals.

This is a sad day for locals as 35% continue to vote for a candidate from a party that treated them as second class residents.

The saddest part is for old Rafflesians-as three RI boys cannot even defeat one from SJI.
It goes to show that despite their academic abiities,Rafflesians are unable to unite and work together.
Despite being so called the brightest, the 3 Rafflesians are strangely unable to figure out that by fighting one another, they are simply opening the door wide open for TT to win.

What kind of future do we have when the product of our best school care more about themselves than about the society at large.
When the chips are down, will the RI boys be there to fight for you-or will they be on the first plane out.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear PT and Scroo

As it is I am writing this post after going through the recount process as a counting agent for TCB. TT turn out for counting agent was impressive, the grassroots /pa etc no's were there . TJS agents and an SDP man was kind enough to stay back and help us during the recount and we shared resources to observe more of the counting process during the first count.

a. TJS scored poorly even in Holland where he had contested before. He polled below his average from just four weeks ago and his national average was way below his Holland Bukit Panjang result. That moron did not win in any way and is damaged political goods. Do not ever ever split the opposition vote even as you seek the centre ground.

b. The national split in the electorate vote reflects the GE. 35% for tony, 35% for TCB 20% for TJS and 5% for tkl. Tony had the hard core PAP vote, TJS had the hard core oppo vote along with TKL and TCB had the centrist vote from both PAP and Opposition camps.

c. PTader if you are still talking to Dr Chee remind him that electing Vincent Cheng as Asst Chairman is a political act signifying that SDP refuses to break with its past and will undo all the good work that it has done or seeks to do. "

d. Scroo honestly if TKL had the decency to drop out then maybe TT would be toast right now :_)).


e. That SDP man was surprised that TJS could not just waltz back into opposition and change positions like changing underwear. If the SDP could inflict more damage on itself it would be allowing him back in on a party platform, Next possible candidate for such a suicide move would be the NSP and those bunch of young politically dumb and dumbers.





Locke

In the 2009 Indonesian Presidential election, 3 sets of candidates (a pair consisting of a President and Vice-President contestant) stood and ran for office.

The Indonesian electoral system requires a run-off involving the top two winners after the first round is held. This run-off was not held as it was not required. This was because Bambang won more than 60.8% in the first round alone over Megawati (26.70%) and Jusuf Kalla (12.41%).

So all this blame game is nothing but rubbish from those who are sore that their candidate of choice did not win. No point ranting and raving and blaming anyone and everyone.

If none of the four candidates can persuade the required numbers amongst a miniscule base of 2.2 million voters - unlike Bambang who had to persuade 60.8% from a base of 121 million plus voters - to cross the line for a convincing win or even to be the best "loser" (all 4 secured below 50%) like what Bambang did for the 2009 Indonesian election, then they and their supporters only have themselves to blame.

 

[Perspective]

PTader if you are still talking to Dr Chee remind him that electing Vincent Cheng as Asst Chairman is a political act signifying that SDP refuses to break with its past and will undo all the good work that it has done or seeks to do. "

The new SDP CEC lineup seems a bit "strange". Many good candidates like Ang YG, Michelle, Gomez, Teo, Alec Tok not included and return of old lacklustre faces.

 

[scroobal]

Well said. The PEC action is questionable. I can imagine LHL calling TCB last night to thank him for a dignified campaign and pleading with him not to raise a high court challenge just as GCT called Lim Kim San at SPH not to lodge an appeal in the OSA case.

The single biggest why TJS is being blamed is that the PEC bend over backwards to award the COE to him. HE IS CLEARLY NOT ELIGIBLE BY ANY COUNT. Anyone who feels that what he did as MD of the funds management company qualifies him to run under the PRESENT CONSTITUTION is clearly deluding himself.On the other hand, I fully respect TKL's right to participate in the contest. He has earned the rights by his appointment as CEO of NTUC Income and can decide to contest or otherwise based on his own assessment of the situation. In his case, his only showed a lack of judgement by contesting when it is clear that TJS has became the flag bearer for the anti-PAP segment and that he will not have any chance whatsoever. Notwithstanding that, he earned the right to contest and to lose the 48,000 deposit.

 

[kukubird58]

Well said. The PEC action is questionable. I can imagine LHL calling TCB last night to thank him for a dignified campaign and pleading with him not to raise a high court challenge just as GCT called Lim Kim San at SPH not to lodge an appeal in the OSA case.

hahaha....this 1 really makes me fell off my chair.
i thought the demi god should be learned enough to know that there is no legal ground for such a challenge in the first place......maybe he really is bull shitting all this while.

 

[steffychun]

Maybe if you want to start a fresh blaming, blame Yam Ah Mee for not re-counting properly

 

[scroobal]

Let's discuss this after a break for feelings to cool down and tensions have eased. At a higher level, people including politicians treated the PE differently as it was a new experience. The first EP elections was staged by old man choreographer. Many parties were unsure.

Dear PT and Scroo As it is I am writing this post after going through the recount process as a counting agent for TCB. TT turn out for counting agent was impressive, the grassroots /pa etc no's were there . TJS agents and an SDP man was kind enough to stay back and help us during the recount and we shared resources to observe more of the counting process during the first count. a. TJS scored poorly even in Holland where he had contested before. He polled below his average from just four weeks ago and his national average was way below his Holland Bukit Panjang result. That moron did not win in any way and is damaged political goods. Do not ever ever split the opposition vote even as you seek the centre ground. b. The national split in the electorate vote reflects the GE. 35% for tony, 35% for TCB 20% for TJS and 5% for tkl. Tony had the hard core PAP vote, TJS had the hard core oppo vote along with TKL and TCB had the centrist vote from both PAP and Opposition camps. c. PTader if you are still talking to Dr Chee remind him that electing Vincent Cheng as Asst Chairman is a political act signifying that SDP refuses to break with its past and will undo all the good work that it has done or seeks to do. " d. Scroo honestly if TKL had the decency to drop out then maybe TT would be toast right now :_)). e. That SDP man was surprised that TJS could not just waltz back into opposition and change positions like changing underwear. If the SDP could inflict more damage on itself it would be allowing him back in on a party platform, Next possible candidate for such a suicide move would be the NSP and those bunch of young politically dumb and dumbers.Locke