Orchard Road Business Association- "We're disappointed with Vivian PUB"

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'We're disappointed with PUB'
By Wayne Chan | Posted: 06 June 2011 1731 hrs

SINGAPORE: The Orchard Road Business Association (ORBA) has said it is disappointed with national water agency PUB over the Orchard Road flood on Sunday.

Its executive director, Steven Goh, said the incident on Sunday felt like a repeat of the floods last June.

"It's kind of like an anniversary for us. It happened last year on June 16, almost (around) the same time," Mr Goh said.

"This has caused a big concern because... we suspect the problem's been transferred from the downstream of Orchard Road to the upstream of Orchard Road where Tanglin Mall and Forum are located".

Mr Goh said measures taken in the aftermath of last June's flooding, which include raising the roads there, also do not seem to have worked.

"The flood alarm system is not working," he said.

"I mean, the stakeholders have not been informed of this flood and at least, there must be some form of communication to alert stakeholders that such a flood was coming.

With worse storms expected over the next few weeks, Mr Goh said the association will be meeting PUB with affected parties on Thursday to discuss what can be done to stop further flooding along the shopping strip, which he says is "the pride of Singapore".

-CNA/wk

 

[karmabear]

Vivian Balakrishnan: What flood alarm system you want? You want fast alarm, slow alarm or false alarm?

 

[Lee_cunt_yew]

After building the Marina CB Barrage they need to build many tiny barrages in SG to save the shoppes, with sand bags etc, the Liat Tower Barrage, the Ngee Ann City Barrage.... everywhere!:*:

 

[cooleo]

Looks like Vivian is a fucking jinx. Wherever he goes, sure fuck it up. YOG can overbudget. MCYS is criticized as STINGY. Now put him in charge of some shitty portfolio like water also kana. One death from teenager swept away in flooded drain and deep thrustings to those malls at Orchard.

 

[cooleo]

*shrugs his shoulders... "What to do? It has happened"

 

[1sickpuppy II]

Well what to do u all have your day in the sun and yet the people in his ward voted for him. So lan lan lor wait for another 5 yrs and hear him say sorry.

 

[KNNBCCB]

WAHAHA!!! I DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY!!!!
BUT I JUST GOT MY PAY CHECK !!!!! ​

 

[johnny333]

Just curious, was the building where Borders is located affected by this flood?
After the last flood they built some of barrier wonder if it was effective

 

[Alamaking]

Vivian Balakrishnan: What kind of drainage system do you want? A sewage, a canal or a dam?

 

[lee6100]

Time for the opposition to show their mettle and ask some tough questions at the next parliamentary sitting. The government has thus far avoided the Marina Barrage issue and instead tries to deflect by talking about the weather. I'm sure we've had similar rainfall before the barrage was built with no Orchard Road floods occurring. This is a serious matter of national concern and the "no sacred cows" approach must be made to get to the cause of flooding. If it is the barrage, then fix it instead of fudging it.

 

[youtalkcock]

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"Did any of u saw Vivian on TV today?
His reply to the reporter began with "I think" Hahahahaha"
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[roaringlion]

Repent for the next 5 years. The people bought (voted) for the PAP insurance.

 

[scroobal]

Agree. The first time the public excuse is the debris clogging up in Stamford canal. Internally they screwed on their senior staff for not using the Marina Barrage. It is the same stretch but further up. Viv B is really dishonest. If he was sincere he would have considered it as a possibility and bring in an external consultant. Let's face it the canal has to be widened or a catchment pool created or the pumps increased in numbers or water level in Marina Bay lowered permanently. Too many "or"s but everyone one of the points to the barrage. Lets see what option will surface.

Time for the opposition to show their mettle and ask some tough questions at the next parliamentary sitting. The government has thus far avoided the Marina Barrage issue and instead tries to deflect by talking about the weather. I'm sure we've had similar rainfall before the barrage was built with no Orchard Road floods occurring. This is a serious matter of national concern and the "no sacred cows" approach must be made to get to the cause of flooding. If it is the barrage, then fix it instead of fudging it.

 

[scroobal]

Agree. The first time the public excuse is the debris clogging up in Stamford canal. Internally they screwed a senior staff for not using the Marina Barrage pumps in time. It is the same stretch but further up. Viv B is really dishonest. If he was sincere he would have considered it as a possibility and bring in an external consultant. Let's face it the canal has to be widened or a catchment pool created or the pumps increased in numbers or water level in Marina Bay lowered permanently. Too many "or"s but everyone one of the points to the barrage. Lets see what option will surface.

Time for the opposition to show their mettle and ask some tough questions at the next parliamentary sitting. The government has thus far avoided the Marina Barrage issue and instead tries to deflect by talking about the weather. I'm sure we've had similar rainfall before the barrage was built with no Orchard Road floods occurring. This is a serious matter of national concern and the "no sacred cows" approach must be made to get to the cause of flooding. If it is the barrage, then fix it instead of fudging it.

 

[Varuna]

If he was sincere he would have considered it as a possibility and bring in an external consultant. Let's face it the canal has to be widened or a catchment pool created or the pumps increased in numbers or water level in Marina Bay lowered permanently. Too many "or"s but everyone one of the points to the barrage. Lets see what option will surface.

We have given the relevant authorities enough time and opportunity to fix this but it looks like they are not competent enough to handle the problem well. I do not blame them for their lack of required expertise and knowledge, but I will be mad if they still try to put a false front to appear as if things are within their control when in actual fact, they are not. I am for the idea of opposition to bring it up to parliament as the issue has reached a meltdown stage. There is an immediate need to call for an independent oversight committee to look into the matter and propose a workable solution. They will engage experts and consultants to help in this area. The report shall be made transparent and there shall be no cover-ups in the actual findings.

 

[scroobal]

At personal Viv B's credibility is slowly but slowly vanishing. This guy makes claims and expresses opinions quite freely but nothing seems to materialise. Someone did express many moons ago in this forum that he is trying to make what he considers as hard decisions like old man to prove his mettle. He should emulate Khaw.

 

[Varuna]

Our ruling party always pride themselves in attracting nothing but the best. If I am not wrong, Chen Show Mao was the top 'A' Level student in his cohort and VB was after him. Ironically, they let Chen slipped through their fingers and had to settle for a 2nd grader. And the 1st grader is now back sitting on the opposite bench keeping watch how their prized 2nd grade catch struggles to keep flood waters out.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

you guys want to bet whether vivian still gets voted in or PAP still holds majority next election?

The pt is everyone knows how PAP works. You voted for them so that's what they're going to do.

Disappointed so what?

Will vivian resign? Will the tanglin management get compensated? Hell no.

Tanglin ppl better think of a way to prevent their shopping centre from becoming a water fall a 2nd time.

 

[sadfcuk]

All these barricades built, are just pushing the water around.

First it was lucky plaza, Liat towers, ION. After they fixed it with the road-raising works and flood gates barrier, the problem shifted west towards Tanglin Mall.

Now Tanglin Mall gonna build their own flood control measures, the water will have to go somewhere else (to the next shopping mall that doesn't have it's own flood control).

It's a zero-sum game... the water HAS to go somewhere.

Kinda reminds me of the ERP solution, where they erect gantries wherever there's a traffic jam. End up the jam diverted to somewhere else, and then that new stretch gets a new gantry too!

 

[johnny333]

All these barricades built, are just pushing the water around.......

Spore Inc is just another failing corporation/family business with an ineffective CEO. None of the managers want to take the responsibility and deal with the problem, yet.

They can hide behind a large organisation. They only need to wait until the next election when at most they'll get pensioned off.