Chitchat Operation Spectrum - 29 arrests - 1987 - 30 years ago

[GoldenDragon]

Did Benny move from ISD back to SPF, then promoted to be Director ISD?

Never moved back to SPF but as PS had SPF reporting to him

 

[Charlie99]

Did Benny Lim really started as a police constable,
then commissioned as an Inspector?

Recently saw an article about a current mid 40's Superintendent, who has O levels, joined the SPF as a constable.

 

[Charlie99]

Never moved back to SPF but as PS had SPF reporting to him

OK,
Benny Lim is my senior by a few years.
BL must be your senior.
Was BL a Deputy Commissioner? or at least a SAC?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Did Benny Lim really started as a police constable,
then commissioned as an Inspector?

Recently saw an article about a current mid 40's Superintendent, who has O levels, joined the SPF as a constable.

He did. Central police station on Beach Road.

You must be referring to Goh tat boon.

 

[GoldenDragon]

OK,
Benny Lim is my senior by a few years.
BL must be your senior.
Was BL a Deputy Commissioner? or at least a SAC?

Last held rank should be DC

 

[Charlie99]

He did. Central police station on Beach Road.

You must be referring to Goh tat boon.

That is the man, GTB.
He must be very competent, to rise from police constable to Superintendent.

 

[Charlie99]

any of your squad mates still active with the SPF?

 

[GoldenDragon]

That is the man, GTB.
He must be very competent, to rise from police constable to Superintendent.

Still a bachelor so life is committed to SPF 24/7/365. Knows his stuff.

 

[GoldenDragon]

any of your squad mates still active with the SPF?

We are all in our 60s. None left in SPF

 

[gatehousethetinkertailor]

It appears Fat fuck Kirsten han has been groomed by the old farts in function 8 to help cultivate, influence and rally a new generation of leftists to go up against current government policies like ISA, death penalty, public order act etc with the ultimate objective of creating chaos and bringing PAP down.

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As mentioned earlier "In life again know your friends and more importantly know your enemies and know when you are being used."

 

[scroobal]

Kirsten is another person to watch closely. She started an NGO and got a naive couple to run it on a shoestring budget, they fly to Geneva, KL to make presentations, lobby etc, she then turns up and submits articles to publications she freelances but not disclosing that it's her NGO and they created the event and the story. Of course Singaporeans have no clue as they appear in foreign publications. You can sense that in the local scene as well, get involved, stir the pot and then report on it. She will probably go interview them when they get detained.

As mentioned earlier "In life again know your friends and more importantly know your enemies and know when you are being used."

 

[steffychun]

GoldenDragon,

Did Benny ever serve in the SID?

 

[GoldenDragon]

GoldenDragon,

Did Benny ever serve in the SID?

Never. But In the late 90s, there were rumours that's where he could be posted to after a big mess up in SID. To clean-up that entity.

 

[scroobal]

There has been a long standing bad blood between SID and ISD. Both were set up by the Police but the former as is the practice in many countries is either in Defence or Foreign Affairs to hide budget, operations and personnel with cover. SID went to MINDEF but instead of MINDEF providing cover it has taken over by SAF personnel. SID struggles to conduct covert operational work using traditional tradecraft and have gone into research and technicals. Singaporeans have been conditioned to be compliant and cautious. Even talking to an Ang Mo they struggle so humint is very weak. They do their part for the allies thru non-humint support. Malaysians have got the better of us and PRC caught another one - SPH journalist.

 

[steffychun]

There has been a long standing bad blood between SID and ISD. Both were set up by the Police but the former as is the practice in many countries is either in Defence or Foreign Affairs to hide budget, operations and personnel with cover. SID went to MINDEF but instead of MINDEF providing cover it has taken over by SAF personnel. SID struggles to conduct covert operational work using traditional tradecraft and have gone into research and technicals. Singaporeans have been conditioned to be compliant and cautious. Even talking to an Ang Mo they struggle so humint is very weak. They do their part for the allies thru non-humint support. Malaysians have got the better of us and PRC caught another one - SPH journalist.

guess now SPH will still try to spy with Ng boy in charge

 

[scroobal]

Ng has no background or previous intelligence background. Its back to using personnel posted to supra-national and regional association bodies.

guess now SPH will still try to spy with Ng boy in charge

 

[steffychun]

Ng has no background or previous intelligence background. Its back to using personnel posted to supra-national and regional association bodies.

ok thanks alot

 

[GoldenDragon]

There has been a long standing bad blood between SID and ISD.

Ditto CIA-FBI, MI5-MI6. Not sure about Mossad and Shin Bet though. For sure, we are far, far behind those I listed.

Still recall when 'that' incident took place, 'KFC' as Defence Minister wanted an internal investigation.

To WKS's credit as Home Affairs minister, he protested. Pinky made at least one correct decision in his career.

 

[Victory2016]

Which incident?

 

[GoldenDragon]

Ng has no background or previous intelligence background. Its back to using personnel posted to supra-national and regional association bodies.

Even if he had, unlikely to be a successful Intel chief. Look at past DSID and their background. They have this habit of employing retired SAF personnel as operatives.

Most, imo, aren't streetwise enough to survive overseas. Their military training doesn't prepare them for such work.

Internally, no proper checks and balances. Complacency sets in. Traitors from within. Pity those caught overseas as a result of their colleagues' greed.

If S'pore is Israel, we would have been decimated decades ago. We can afford a 'look-good only' Intel agency simply because we don't face real threats like Israel.