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Of Sabah KK Quake, TKPS and its after shocks...
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Re: After Quake Tragedy, Sabah Mulls Barring Mount Kinabalu To Climbers Below 15
I have read about a news few years ago that a man die when rolling down a flight of steps
. If you are unlucky you might even die when choking on fish bones
I have read about a news few years ago that a man die when rolling down a flight of steps
. If you are unlucky you might even die when choking on fish bones Re: After Quake Tragedy, Sabah Mulls Barring Mount Kinabalu To Climbers Below 15
Source: Liao Bo Tan Facebook
Emotional Singaporeans proven once again
The best time to see how a nation respond is during a bad time. This Sabah earthquake is a good example with 8 dead and 2 missing. So many wanted to give their opinion of what this is all about. So much philosophies ... written by soul writers.
Did we miss the breakdown? Treat each point separately.
1) SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND CLIMBING MOUNT KINABALU ARE 2 SEPARATE TOPICS
Of course it is separate. Having school activities is good, and Singapore with our "paper soldier" culture, it is extra good to do outdoor. But it is a separate topic to climb Mount Kinabalu.
It is already challenging to climb Mount Faber. Please respect Singapore's only mountain, at 105 metres tall, it is not so easy to climb.
2) COMPETENCE TO ROCK CLIMB AND TREK LONG DISTANCE IS THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR PRIMARY SCHOOL ?
It is not about Mount Kinabalu but should 12 year old rock climb and trek long distance? This is what the army prepares men at 18 yrs of age for. Even so in the army, soldiers die just climbing rocks and trekking long distance ... in our own soil ! Don't worry if you did not know, the cheng hu also don't want you to know.
The basic idea of the training are techniques to rock climb properly. Then learn to trek long distance with our equipment, food and water. If we get lost or injured, we are prepared and trained with first aid tools to help ourselves and others.
If a person survives an earthquake, or got lost in the jungle, or someone got injured ... the training will help determine who are the survivors. If training is sufficient to cover others, then no one are liabilities and able to cover each other.
12 year old children are liabilities, as they are not sufficiently trained on these skills and much less help others. Teachers are often knowledgeable on ... yes, subjects in class and not trekking and rock climb. Now even teachers are liabilities and they are not 12 yrs old.
I am army trained to be instructor and for heli-borne ops and cliff repelling. Am I confident to cover the ferrata route on Mount Kinabalu? I DON'T THINK SO. But I would not judge for more competent people, which some claim to be 12 years old.
3) MANY YOUNG VICTIMS ARE GIRLS
Opps ... was this missed? Not that young boys are better, but so many young girls are victims?
4) EARTHQUAKE IS ... WELL EARTHQUAKE
Look at the track record of earthquake from http://earthquaketrack.com/p/malaysia/sabah/recent
It does tell us that earthquakes do happen. Does it matter if you are young, old, competent, male, female, expert, stupid, mentally challenged or simply a four legged animal ??? Rocks and boulders just hit the body and kill.
Mount Kinabalu is definitely a place we should respect, and not take as a light hearted place to go. BASIC RULE, IF YOU WANT SAFE PLACE, DON'T CLIMB A MOUNTAIN KNOWN FOR EARTHQUAKE.
How to go for elections when Singaporeans are unable to breakdown the topics and judge for themselves.
EMOTIONAL SINGAPOREANS
This event has proven an emotional event with losses to Singaporeans. My sympathies to the victims and their families.
However it became a political tool to paint the whites being caring. Ahem ... Marketing done by our state propaganda of their gallant image.
Did we also miss the names of the victims are interesting mix of Singaporeans? But that for another time.
Source: Liao Bo Tan Facebook
Emotional Singaporeans proven once again
The best time to see how a nation respond is during a bad time. This Sabah earthquake is a good example with 8 dead and 2 missing. So many wanted to give their opinion of what this is all about. So much philosophies ... written by soul writers.
Did we miss the breakdown? Treat each point separately.
1) SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND CLIMBING MOUNT KINABALU ARE 2 SEPARATE TOPICS
Of course it is separate. Having school activities is good, and Singapore with our "paper soldier" culture, it is extra good to do outdoor. But it is a separate topic to climb Mount Kinabalu.
It is already challenging to climb Mount Faber. Please respect Singapore's only mountain, at 105 metres tall, it is not so easy to climb.
2) COMPETENCE TO ROCK CLIMB AND TREK LONG DISTANCE IS THE RIGHT TOPIC FOR PRIMARY SCHOOL ?
It is not about Mount Kinabalu but should 12 year old rock climb and trek long distance? This is what the army prepares men at 18 yrs of age for. Even so in the army, soldiers die just climbing rocks and trekking long distance ... in our own soil ! Don't worry if you did not know, the cheng hu also don't want you to know.
The basic idea of the training are techniques to rock climb properly. Then learn to trek long distance with our equipment, food and water. If we get lost or injured, we are prepared and trained with first aid tools to help ourselves and others.
If a person survives an earthquake, or got lost in the jungle, or someone got injured ... the training will help determine who are the survivors. If training is sufficient to cover others, then no one are liabilities and able to cover each other.
12 year old children are liabilities, as they are not sufficiently trained on these skills and much less help others. Teachers are often knowledgeable on ... yes, subjects in class and not trekking and rock climb. Now even teachers are liabilities and they are not 12 yrs old.
I am army trained to be instructor and for heli-borne ops and cliff repelling. Am I confident to cover the ferrata route on Mount Kinabalu? I DON'T THINK SO. But I would not judge for more competent people, which some claim to be 12 years old.
3) MANY YOUNG VICTIMS ARE GIRLS
Opps ... was this missed? Not that young boys are better, but so many young girls are victims?
4) EARTHQUAKE IS ... WELL EARTHQUAKE
Look at the track record of earthquake from http://earthquaketrack.com/p/malaysia/sabah/recent
It does tell us that earthquakes do happen. Does it matter if you are young, old, competent, male, female, expert, stupid, mentally challenged or simply a four legged animal ??? Rocks and boulders just hit the body and kill.
Mount Kinabalu is definitely a place we should respect, and not take as a light hearted place to go. BASIC RULE, IF YOU WANT SAFE PLACE, DON'T CLIMB A MOUNTAIN KNOWN FOR EARTHQUAKE.
How to go for elections when Singaporeans are unable to breakdown the topics and judge for themselves.
EMOTIONAL SINGAPOREANS
This event has proven an emotional event with losses to Singaporeans. My sympathies to the victims and their families.
However it became a political tool to paint the whites being caring. Ahem ... Marketing done by our state propaganda of their gallant image.
Did we also miss the names of the victims are interesting mix of Singaporeans? But that for another time.
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Re: After Quake Tragedy, Sabah Mulls Barring Mount Kinabalu To Climbers Below 15
i am so happy these fap supporters get their life farked up and not a sign of remorse and support from their masters. instead, they are thrown to the pool of alligators and declared as irresponsible
i am so happy these fap supporters get their life farked up and not a sign of remorse and support from their masters. instead, they are thrown to the pool of alligators and declared as irresponsible
Re: After Quake Tragedy, Sabah Mulls Barring Mount Kinabalu To Climbers Below 15
Source: Today
TUESDAY 9 JUNE 2015
Sabah quake: ‘Sorrowful’ atmosphere on mountain, says guide who led students on trip
Mr Mohamad Amin bin Mohamad Nor (right), 29, group leader with Camp Challenge who
led the trip with his mother at Changi Airport. Photo: Robin Choo
BY NG JING YNG
[email protected]
PUBLISHED: 4:16 AM, JUNE 9, 2015
SINGAPORE — Adventure guide Mohamad Amin Mohamad Nor, 29, who had led the fateful trip that the Tanjong Katong Primary School (TKPS) teachers and students made to Mount Kinabalu, had a recurring thought for the past two days as he stayed behind in Sabah to tie up the loose ends, including transporting home the trekkers’ personal belongings.
“What’s in my mind ... was it was me who brought them out (to Mt Kinabalu), I want to help to bring them all back ... Being the group leader who brought 39 others out with me, but I don’t have all of them back together with me … the feeling is just …” said Mr Amin, his voice breaking off mid-sentence.
Six TKPS Primary 6 students and one teacher were killed by the earthquake which struck on Friday morning. Mr Amin’s colleague, Muhammad Daanish Amran, 22, was among the fatalities.
Mr Amin, who was greeted by family and friends when he touched down at Changi Airport yesterday, was among three Camp Challenge guides who went on the trip with the TKPS trekkers.
He decided to return home on Sunday night to settle the administrative matters after completing his duties on Mount Kinabalu. Mr Amin, who has a decade of experience in guiding adventure tours, described the atmosphere on the mountain as “sorrowful”.
He can still vividly remember what happened when the earthquake struck. He had just finished helping some TKPS students — who were about to start on the Via Ferrata route — put on their helmets and harnesses, and had said goodbye. Back in his room, he felt the hut where the group was staying shake violently, and he ran out to the lounge area. “I was able to see a small part of the Via Ferrata (route) and there were big rocks rolling down. I knew the kids were already up there,” said Mr Amin.
Having little time to let what he saw sink in, he rushed back into the hut to ensure the safety of the other students.
Mr Amin said he will fondly remember the months of pre-trip training with the “energetic and lively” TKPS pupils. “I will still go along on such adventure trips in future, but taking along kids … I’m not sure … maybe,” he said. NG JING YNG
Source: Today
TUESDAY 9 JUNE 2015
Sabah quake: ‘Sorrowful’ atmosphere on mountain, says guide who led students on trip
Mr Mohamad Amin bin Mohamad Nor (right), 29, group leader with Camp Challenge who
led the trip with his mother at Changi Airport. Photo: Robin Choo
BY NG JING YNG
[email protected]
PUBLISHED: 4:16 AM, JUNE 9, 2015
SINGAPORE — Adventure guide Mohamad Amin Mohamad Nor, 29, who had led the fateful trip that the Tanjong Katong Primary School (TKPS) teachers and students made to Mount Kinabalu, had a recurring thought for the past two days as he stayed behind in Sabah to tie up the loose ends, including transporting home the trekkers’ personal belongings.
“What’s in my mind ... was it was me who brought them out (to Mt Kinabalu), I want to help to bring them all back ... Being the group leader who brought 39 others out with me, but I don’t have all of them back together with me … the feeling is just …” said Mr Amin, his voice breaking off mid-sentence.
Six TKPS Primary 6 students and one teacher were killed by the earthquake which struck on Friday morning. Mr Amin’s colleague, Muhammad Daanish Amran, 22, was among the fatalities.
Mr Amin, who was greeted by family and friends when he touched down at Changi Airport yesterday, was among three Camp Challenge guides who went on the trip with the TKPS trekkers.
He decided to return home on Sunday night to settle the administrative matters after completing his duties on Mount Kinabalu. Mr Amin, who has a decade of experience in guiding adventure tours, described the atmosphere on the mountain as “sorrowful”.
He can still vividly remember what happened when the earthquake struck. He had just finished helping some TKPS students — who were about to start on the Via Ferrata route — put on their helmets and harnesses, and had said goodbye. Back in his room, he felt the hut where the group was staying shake violently, and he ran out to the lounge area. “I was able to see a small part of the Via Ferrata (route) and there were big rocks rolling down. I knew the kids were already up there,” said Mr Amin.
Having little time to let what he saw sink in, he rushed back into the hut to ensure the safety of the other students.
Mr Amin said he will fondly remember the months of pre-trip training with the “energetic and lively” TKPS pupils. “I will still go along on such adventure trips in future, but taking along kids … I’m not sure … maybe,” he said. NG JING YNG
End of Article
Re: After Quake Tragedy, Sabah Mulls Barring Mount Kinabalu To Climbers Below 15
This guy is adventure guide.
Did the school get Licensed Mountain Guides?
I read that the minimum ratio under the regulation is 1 Licensed Mountain Guide for every 6 climbers.
This guy is adventure guide.
Did the school get Licensed Mountain Guides?
I read that the minimum ratio under the regulation is 1 Licensed Mountain Guide for every 6 climbers.
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Re: After Quake Tragedy, Sabah Mulls Barring Mount Kinabalu To Climbers Below 15
what is they still strip naked?
what is they still strip naked?
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Re: The star online: 10 students of Tanjong katong primary sch killed
Fantastic reply and done without any name calling.
Fantastic reply and done without any name calling.
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Re: The star online: 10 students of Tanjong katong primary sch killed
still moronic nonetheless.
still moronic nonetheless.
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Re: The star online: 10 students of Tanjong katong primary sch killed
Fuck your Mother Phua Chee Bye!:oIo:
still moronic nonetheless.
Fuck your Mother Phua Chee Bye!:oIo:
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Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
like this?
You don't have to climb that mountain , you walk up that mountain
like this?
Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
Those steps are not for 12 year olds.
Perhaps, the MOE may wish to consider that a pre-requisite to participate in any future trek to Mt. Kinabalu, is that all participants must successfully complete the course at Outward Bound School.
Those steps are not for 12 year olds.
Perhaps, the MOE may wish to consider that a pre-requisite to participate in any future trek to Mt. Kinabalu, is that all participants must successfully complete the course at Outward Bound School.
Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
I recall that I was age 17 when I attended the course at Outward Bound School ("OBS"), Pulau Ubin.
If the minimum age then, was 16, to attend OBS, I believe that it is unreasonable to expect 12 year olds to make that trip up Mt. Kinabalu.
I recall that I was age 17 when I attended the course at Outward Bound School ("OBS"), Pulau Ubin.
If the minimum age then, was 16, to attend OBS, I believe that it is unreasonable to expect 12 year olds to make that trip up Mt. Kinabalu.
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Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
Last time got 'hole-listic' education bo? In today's world, you must grab every bit of advantage you can get to stay ahead. That is how singapore can punch above our weight ok?
Last time got 'hole-listic' education bo? In today's world, you must grab every bit of advantage you can get to stay ahead. That is how singapore can punch above our weight ok?
Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
I am in my 50's, so that was almost 40 years ago, when I went to Outward Bound School.
I am in my 50's, so that was almost 40 years ago, when I went to Outward Bound School.
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Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
PAP handled this incident very well. I am very certain that they just swung a couple of thousand swing votes their way. In a crisis, only PAP can save the day.
PAP handled this incident very well. I am very certain that they just swung a couple of thousand swing votes their way. In a crisis, only PAP can save the day.
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Re: Body said to be of S'porean student retrieved from Mt Kinabalu
Indeed as you said, it was eons ago. Very common now and not impressive any more. In today's world, to get a leg up, you need to seize every advantage, every opportunity you can to outdo those before you. That is how singapore can continue to punch above our weight! You know, like Manny.
Indeed as you said, it was eons ago. Very common now and not impressive any more. In today's world, to get a leg up, you need to seize every advantage, every opportunity you can to outdo those before you. That is how singapore can continue to punch above our weight! You know, like Manny.
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