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#OccupyCentral thread: Give me Liberty or Give me Death!
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Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Only in a relatively peaceful crisis such as this
Does one have the opportunity to walk on two flyovers
In middle of thriving city like it's your grandfather's road
Or make quick money as a hired thug with no danger
Sinkieland has plenty of opportunists in Lightning party
Thanks to daft useless sixty percent always kena conned
[video=youtube;17JB9thm9eU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17JB9thm9eU[/video]
Only in a relatively peaceful crisis such as this
Does one have the opportunity to walk on two flyovers
In middle of thriving city like it's your grandfather's road
Or make quick money as a hired thug with no danger
Sinkieland has plenty of opportunists in Lightning party
Thanks to daft useless sixty percent always kena conned
[video=youtube;17JB9thm9eU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17JB9thm9eU[/video]
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Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Power to Fatt Kor for taking a stand and making it known.
Andy Lau on the other hand sounds just like a PRC lapdog....likely eyeing some Prc political seat machiam the other dog Teeko Jackie Chan
Power to Fatt Kor for taking a stand and making it known.
Andy Lau on the other hand sounds just like a PRC lapdog....likely eyeing some Prc political seat machiam the other dog Teeko Jackie Chan
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Lee Hsien Loong broke his silence offering golden view on HK
'Beijing will be watching carefully': Singapore PM on Occupy Central
Lee Hsien Loong has voiced his opinion of the Occupy Central movement, saying it is best left up to Hong Kong to sort out and outside influences won't help
TOH HAN SHIH [email protected]
Singapore’s Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, has given his perspective on the Occupy Central movement in Hong Kong and its implications for China and the region.
There will be issues that will come up from time to time, he said, and they have to be resolved by Hong Kong and China in a way which is in the interests of Hong Kong, doesn’t hurt the interests of China and is in accordance to the law.
“I’m quite sure there’s a large team on the Chinese side in Beijing watching this very carefully … very, very carefully.”
LEE HSIEN LOONG
“These are peaceful demonstrations – that’s good. It’s not in Tiananmen, they are not in Zhongnanhai, that lowers the temperature,” he noted.
“But even then, it’s a difficult situation for the chief executive and his team to manage and I’m quite sure there’s a large team on the Chinese side in Beijing watching this very carefully … very, very carefully.”
“You are looking at Hong Kong matters – Hong Kong looking after Hong Kong. These are things best of all Hong Kong can sort out for itself,” he said.
“But if other groups get involved and use this to pressure China or to change China, or, [as] I read [in] international newspapers, former activists from Tiananmen have come to help the students. I don’t think they need such help.
“Or the students who were doing the Sunflower Movement in Taipei also coming to compare notes, [to] teach you how to occupy something [or] also coming to occupy something. I don’t think such help is in anyway helpful. I think that will only make things much more complicated.”
'Beijing will be watching carefully': Singapore PM on Occupy Central
Lee Hsien Loong has voiced his opinion of the Occupy Central movement, saying it is best left up to Hong Kong to sort out and outside influences won't help
TOH HAN SHIH [email protected]
Singapore’s Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, has given his perspective on the Occupy Central movement in Hong Kong and its implications for China and the region.
There will be issues that will come up from time to time, he said, and they have to be resolved by Hong Kong and China in a way which is in the interests of Hong Kong, doesn’t hurt the interests of China and is in accordance to the law.
“I’m quite sure there’s a large team on the Chinese side in Beijing watching this very carefully … very, very carefully.”
LEE HSIEN LOONG
“These are peaceful demonstrations – that’s good. It’s not in Tiananmen, they are not in Zhongnanhai, that lowers the temperature,” he noted.
“But even then, it’s a difficult situation for the chief executive and his team to manage and I’m quite sure there’s a large team on the Chinese side in Beijing watching this very carefully … very, very carefully.”
“You are looking at Hong Kong matters – Hong Kong looking after Hong Kong. These are things best of all Hong Kong can sort out for itself,” he said.
“But if other groups get involved and use this to pressure China or to change China, or, [as] I read [in] international newspapers, former activists from Tiananmen have come to help the students. I don’t think they need such help.
“Or the students who were doing the Sunflower Movement in Taipei also coming to compare notes, [to] teach you how to occupy something [or] also coming to occupy something. I don’t think such help is in anyway helpful. I think that will only make things much more complicated.”
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Re: Lee Hsien Loong broke his silence offering golden view on HK
No comments on Hongkie protestors' demands for their Beijing Papa nominated prime minister to resign immediately?
[video=youtube;fLvu4aZIhz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLvu4aZIhz8[/video]
No comments on Hongkie protestors' demands for their Beijing Papa nominated prime minister to resign immediately?
[video=youtube;fLvu4aZIhz8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLvu4aZIhz8[/video]
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FAP Teaching China How to Deal with Hongkongers
[h=1]SHANMUGAM: CHINA CAN’T GIVE IN TO HK OR OTHERS IN CHINA MIGHT PROTEST TOO[/h]
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During an interview with Chinese daily, Lianhe Zaobao, Foreigner Affairs Minister K Shanmugam explained that China is unlikely to give in to the demands of Hong Kong Protesters.
He warned that if they did, they would have to change their basic law and it would also encourage others in China to act out against the government, following the example of the Hong Kongers.
Shanmugam felt that China needs to be “very careful” and he said he also understands China’s concerns.
He also noted that a lot of Western Media has been portraying the situation with a lot of anti-China bias. Western media is claiming that China has denied Hong Kong of democracy and that they are restricting the city’s freedom. However, Mr Shanmugam pointed out that Hong Kong has not actually had a true democracy in the last 150 years when the British were in power either.
Shanmugam said that he Sino-British Declaration on the handover of Hong Kong did not mention anything about universal suffrage, something the protesters in Hong Kong are calling for now.
“What Beijing is proposing is more than what Hong Kong ever had under the British. The Western media do not report these,” explained Mr Shanmugam.
Talking more about China’s perspective on the issue, Shanmugam explained that China wants to ensure unity and progress for the 1.3 billion people in China. He said that for China, staying away from a proper democracy will allow them to progress faster and develop more effectively.
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Shanmugam gave the example of the US where politics has led to problems about budgets and a lack of much needed law reform because the two major parties keep blocking each other.
Another example was the break up of the Soviet Union and the weakness of Russia following the premature restructuring of political systems before the economics were strong.
Giving these examples, Shanmugam defended China’s move to keep democracy out and not to give in to Hong Kong protesters’ demands.
Shanmugam went on to say that Hong Kongers need to understand that China has acted in accordance with the basic law and they need to recognise that they are part of China and there are some things that China will allow and others that China will reject.
He added that Hong Kong is still heavily reliant on China.
[h=1]SHANMUGAM: CHINA CAN’T GIVE IN TO HK OR OTHERS IN CHINA MIGHT PROTEST TOO[/h]
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4 Oct 2014 - 4:16pm
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During an interview with Chinese daily, Lianhe Zaobao, Foreigner Affairs Minister K Shanmugam explained that China is unlikely to give in to the demands of Hong Kong Protesters.
He warned that if they did, they would have to change their basic law and it would also encourage others in China to act out against the government, following the example of the Hong Kongers.
Shanmugam felt that China needs to be “very careful” and he said he also understands China’s concerns.
He also noted that a lot of Western Media has been portraying the situation with a lot of anti-China bias. Western media is claiming that China has denied Hong Kong of democracy and that they are restricting the city’s freedom. However, Mr Shanmugam pointed out that Hong Kong has not actually had a true democracy in the last 150 years when the British were in power either.
Shanmugam said that he Sino-British Declaration on the handover of Hong Kong did not mention anything about universal suffrage, something the protesters in Hong Kong are calling for now.
“What Beijing is proposing is more than what Hong Kong ever had under the British. The Western media do not report these,” explained Mr Shanmugam.
Talking more about China’s perspective on the issue, Shanmugam explained that China wants to ensure unity and progress for the 1.3 billion people in China. He said that for China, staying away from a proper democracy will allow them to progress faster and develop more effectively.
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Shanmugam gave the example of the US where politics has led to problems about budgets and a lack of much needed law reform because the two major parties keep blocking each other.
Another example was the break up of the Soviet Union and the weakness of Russia following the premature restructuring of political systems before the economics were strong.
Giving these examples, Shanmugam defended China’s move to keep democracy out and not to give in to Hong Kong protesters’ demands.
Shanmugam went on to say that Hong Kongers need to understand that China has acted in accordance with the basic law and they need to recognise that they are part of China and there are some things that China will allow and others that China will reject.
He added that Hong Kong is still heavily reliant on China.
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Re: FAP Teaching China How to Deal with Hongkongers
[h=1]SHANMUGAM: HONG KONGERS SHOULD KNOW THEY ARE PART OF CHINA AND SHOULD RESPECT BEIJING[/h]
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4 Oct 2014 - 2:10pm
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Singapore’s Foreign Affairs Minister K Shanmugam said that Beijing is unlikely to give in to the demands of pro democracy protesters in Hong Kong.
He also noted that a lot of Western Media has been portraying the situation with a lot of anti-China bias.
Mr Shanmugam spoke to Lianhe Zaobao and explained that China will probably not give in because if they do, it will have an impact on the rest of China. If China shows weakness and allowed Hong Kong to have their way, similar changes may need to be made in other parts of China in the near future.
Shanmugam indicated that he believes China will be “very careful” and that he understands China’s concerns.
He also spoke about how western media is claiming that China has denied Hong Kong of democracy and that they are restricting the city’s freedom. However, Mr Shanmugam pointed out that Hong Kong has not actually had a true democracy in the last 150 years when the British were in power either.
Shanmugam said that he Sino-British Declaration on the handover of Hong Kong did not mention anything about universal suffrage or the right to vote, something the protesters in Hong Kong are calling for now.
“What Beijing is proposing is more than what Hong Kong ever had under the British. The Western media do not report these,” explained Mr Shanmugam.
Talking more about China’s perspective on the issue, Shanmugam explained that China wants to ensure unity and progress for the 1.3 billion people in China. He said that for China, staying away from a proper democracy will allow them to progress faster and develop more effectively.
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Shanmugam gave the example of the US where politics has led to problems about budgets and a lack of much needed law reform because the two major parties keep blocking each other.
Another example was the break up of the Soviet Union and the weakness of Russia following the premature restructuring of political systems before the economics were strong.
Giving these examples, Shanmugam defended China’s move to keep democracy out and not to give in to Hong Kong protesters’ demands.
Shanmugam went on to say that Hong Kongers need to understand that China has acted in accordance with the basic law and they need to recognise that they are part of China and there are some things that China will allow and others that China will reject.
He added that Hong Kong is still heavily reliant on China.
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Singapore’s Foreign Affairs Minister K Shanmugam said that Beijing is unlikely to give in to the demands of pro democracy protesters in Hong Kong.
He also noted that a lot of Western Media has been portraying the situation with a lot of anti-China bias.
Mr Shanmugam spoke to Lianhe Zaobao and explained that China will probably not give in because if they do, it will have an impact on the rest of China. If China shows weakness and allowed Hong Kong to have their way, similar changes may need to be made in other parts of China in the near future.
Shanmugam indicated that he believes China will be “very careful” and that he understands China’s concerns.
He also spoke about how western media is claiming that China has denied Hong Kong of democracy and that they are restricting the city’s freedom. However, Mr Shanmugam pointed out that Hong Kong has not actually had a true democracy in the last 150 years when the British were in power either.
Shanmugam said that he Sino-British Declaration on the handover of Hong Kong did not mention anything about universal suffrage or the right to vote, something the protesters in Hong Kong are calling for now.
“What Beijing is proposing is more than what Hong Kong ever had under the British. The Western media do not report these,” explained Mr Shanmugam.
Talking more about China’s perspective on the issue, Shanmugam explained that China wants to ensure unity and progress for the 1.3 billion people in China. He said that for China, staying away from a proper democracy will allow them to progress faster and develop more effectively.
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Shanmugam gave the example of the US where politics has led to problems about budgets and a lack of much needed law reform because the two major parties keep blocking each other.
Another example was the break up of the Soviet Union and the weakness of Russia following the premature restructuring of political systems before the economics were strong.
Giving these examples, Shanmugam defended China’s move to keep democracy out and not to give in to Hong Kong protesters’ demands.
Shanmugam went on to say that Hong Kongers need to understand that China has acted in accordance with the basic law and they need to recognise that they are part of China and there are some things that China will allow and others that China will reject.
He added that Hong Kong is still heavily reliant on China.
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Re: Lee Hsien Loong broke his silence offering golden view on HK
Like father, like son. Readily dishing out his pearls of wisdom, even if you hadn't specifically asked for it.
Like father, like son. Readily dishing out his pearls of wisdom, even if you hadn't specifically asked for it.
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Re: Anarchists & Opportunist Abound in HK Chaos
Hongkies are light years ahead of sinkies....result of 50 years of damage.
Even commie chinks who got no right to vote knows how to protest march.
Sinkies can only rank above the North Koreans in political consciousness.....even illiterate Burmese rank many notches above sinkie
Hongkies are light years ahead of sinkies....result of 50 years of damage.
Even commie chinks who got no right to vote knows how to protest march.
Sinkies can only rank above the North Koreans in political consciousness.....even illiterate Burmese rank many notches above sinkie
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Re: HK should hold Referendum on its future
CY Leung issues stark warning government offices and schools must open Monday
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:55pm
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 6:59pm
Staff Reporters
Police hold back the anti-Occupy Central camp in Causeway Bay. Photo: SCMP Pictures
Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying is adamant that government operations and schools affected by Occupy Central must resume on Monday.
"At the moment, the most urgent thing is that all entrances and exits of the SAR government's headquarters must be kept clear on Monday, so all 3,000 government staff can work normally and serve citizens," Leung said in a televised speech.
"And roads in Central and Western and Wan Chai districts will no longer be blocked so all schools can resume classes on Monday."
Leung issued a stark warning that if the conflict between pro- and anti- Occupy Central groups continued, it would be "very likely to keep going out of hand".
Meanwhile, a former Democratic Party lawmaker warned that Occupy is in a "very dangerous situation" that has to be resolved "in a very short period of time".
Cheung Man-Kwong has urged student protesters to launch dialogue with the government as soon as possible in order to find a way out of the current political deadlock.
"The dialogue is not about the political reform anymore. It is about finding a solution to ease the political tensions we are facing," Cheung said.
"I hope they can at least sit down and talk, in order to avoid tragedy."
The warnings that the civil disobedience campaign is running out of time came after pan-democrat lawmakers accused the government of colluding with triad gangs to orchestrate attacks on demonstrators in Mong Kok last night amid more violent scenes in the area this afternoon.
In a joint press conference, pan-democrat legislators criticised the lack of police presence in Mong Kok amid rising tensions.
“Over the past few hours police did not deploy manpower to ensure safety in Hong Kong, which is highly suspicious,” said Democrat lawmaker James To Kun-sun, who is also the deputy chairman of the Legislative Council’s security panel.
“I cannot believe that the experienced Mong Kok police could not identify triad gangsters. The government has used organised, orchestrated forces and even triad gangs in attempt to disperse citizens.”
Six days since Occupy Central began and just hours after bloody clashes between pro- and anti-Occupy Central groups yesterday, tempers flared again this morning in Mong Kok with bottles thrown at demonstrators and scuffles between the two groups throughout the day.
Some anti-Occupy groups tried to dismantle tents and barricades set up by pro-democracy protesters this afternoon.
While there have been fewer violent incidents than last night, there have been reports of frequent verbal confrontations in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay.
Secretary for Security Lai Tung-kwok denied accusations the police colluded with triad gangs during scuffles in Mong Kok yesterday.
Occupy and anti-occupy groups scuffle in Mong Kok on Saturday. Photo: Sam Tsang
Pan-democrats have called for a meeting with Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor and Lai to discuss the situation.
Civic Party leader Alan Leong Kah-kit said they did not request to meet Chief Executive Leung Chin-ying because they did not trust him and condemned those behind the attacks on Occupy supporters.
“We strongly condemn the mobs. They vandalised and attacked peaceful occupiers who were demonstrating for their basic rights.”
Civic Party lawmaker Claudia Mo Man-ching said she was perplexed by the lack of police presence in Mong Kok during the protests until the massive violence yesterday.
“I was there for four days and saw only one police officer passing by ... there was almost zero police presence, as the media witnessed.”
Unionist Leung Yiu-chung questioned the actions of police in Mong Kok last night.
“Some people who attacked others boarded taxis under police escort and were not arrested. But Occupy Central supporters were immediately handcuffed.”
This afternoon, Democratic Party chairwoman Emily Lau Wai-hing said she received an email from Executive Councillor Fanny Law Fan Chiu-fun, who suggested that pan-democrats and pro-government lawmakers should issue a joint statement to call for peace.
“We welcome dialogue. However, it appears that people with [triad gang] ‘backgrounds’ are behind the incident,” Lau said.
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Occupy and anti-occupy groups scuffle in Mong Kok on Saturday. Photo: Sam Tsang
Independent pan-democrat Joseph Lee Kok-long said the city “has been taken over by triad gangs ... it is anarchy” while Fernando Cheung Chiu-hung from the Labour Party said “our society has reached a point where violence may erupt any time.”
Earlier this morning, scores of anti-Occupy protesters wearing blue ribbons gathered in Admiralty before marching to police headquarters, chanting “Support police”.
As they left the MTR station in Admiralty, the “blue-ribbon” marchers shouted at the Occupy protestors wearing yellow ribbons.
The group plan to rally in Tsim Sha Tsui and Mong Kok later today.
In Causeway Bay, the number of demonstrators has swelled this afternoon after dwindling overnight.
Police patrolling the area outside the Sogo department store on Hennessy Road have reportedly asked anti-Occupy protesters to leave if they shout or try to start a fight.
The Foreign Correspondents Club in Hong Kong released a statement this afternoon condemning the violence against the media after reports of journalists being assaulted or threatened while covering the protests.
One foreign reporter was hit in the face with a full water bottle and an RTHK reporter was reportedly beaten by police, the statement said.
Student protests leaders said the government had to provide further explanation for the violence in Mong Kok before they could hold further talks with the administration after plans were shelved to meet Chief Secretary Lam.
Meanwhile, Alex Chow Yong-kang, Secretary General of the Federation of Students said protest organisers would continue to help supporters to occupy streets in different areas, including Mong Kok and Causeway Bay. This is in contrast with the calls last night by Occupy co-founder Benny Tai Yiu-ting, who asked supporters leaving Mong Kok.
Student leaders also accused the police of colluding with triads and vowed to continue their fight for true universal suffrage.
Fanny Fung, Kathy Gao, Danny Mok, Ernest Kao, Bryan Harris
CY Leung issues stark warning government offices and schools must open Monday
PUBLISHED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 4:55pm
UPDATED : Saturday, 04 October, 2014, 6:59pm
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Police hold back the anti-Occupy Central camp in Causeway Bay. Photo: SCMP Pictures
Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying is adamant that government operations and schools affected by Occupy Central must resume on Monday.
"At the moment, the most urgent thing is that all entrances and exits of the SAR government's headquarters must be kept clear on Monday, so all 3,000 government staff can work normally and serve citizens," Leung said in a televised speech.
"And roads in Central and Western and Wan Chai districts will no longer be blocked so all schools can resume classes on Monday."
Leung issued a stark warning that if the conflict between pro- and anti- Occupy Central groups continued, it would be "very likely to keep going out of hand".
Meanwhile, a former Democratic Party lawmaker warned that Occupy is in a "very dangerous situation" that has to be resolved "in a very short period of time".
Cheung Man-Kwong has urged student protesters to launch dialogue with the government as soon as possible in order to find a way out of the current political deadlock.
"The dialogue is not about the political reform anymore. It is about finding a solution to ease the political tensions we are facing," Cheung said.
"I hope they can at least sit down and talk, in order to avoid tragedy."
The warnings that the civil disobedience campaign is running out of time came after pan-democrat lawmakers accused the government of colluding with triad gangs to orchestrate attacks on demonstrators in Mong Kok last night amid more violent scenes in the area this afternoon.
In a joint press conference, pan-democrat legislators criticised the lack of police presence in Mong Kok amid rising tensions.
“Over the past few hours police did not deploy manpower to ensure safety in Hong Kong, which is highly suspicious,” said Democrat lawmaker James To Kun-sun, who is also the deputy chairman of the Legislative Council’s security panel.
“I cannot believe that the experienced Mong Kok police could not identify triad gangsters. The government has used organised, orchestrated forces and even triad gangs in attempt to disperse citizens.”
Six days since Occupy Central began and just hours after bloody clashes between pro- and anti-Occupy Central groups yesterday, tempers flared again this morning in Mong Kok with bottles thrown at demonstrators and scuffles between the two groups throughout the day.
Some anti-Occupy groups tried to dismantle tents and barricades set up by pro-democracy protesters this afternoon.
While there have been fewer violent incidents than last night, there have been reports of frequent verbal confrontations in Mong Kok and Causeway Bay.
Secretary for Security Lai Tung-kwok denied accusations the police colluded with triad gangs during scuffles in Mong Kok yesterday.
Occupy and anti-occupy groups scuffle in Mong Kok on Saturday. Photo: Sam Tsang
Pan-democrats have called for a meeting with Chief Secretary Carrie Lam Cheng Yuet-ngor and Lai to discuss the situation.
Civic Party leader Alan Leong Kah-kit said they did not request to meet Chief Executive Leung Chin-ying because they did not trust him and condemned those behind the attacks on Occupy supporters.
“We strongly condemn the mobs. They vandalised and attacked peaceful occupiers who were demonstrating for their basic rights.”
Civic Party lawmaker Claudia Mo Man-ching said she was perplexed by the lack of police presence in Mong Kok during the protests until the massive violence yesterday.
“I was there for four days and saw only one police officer passing by ... there was almost zero police presence, as the media witnessed.”
Unionist Leung Yiu-chung questioned the actions of police in Mong Kok last night.
“Some people who attacked others boarded taxis under police escort and were not arrested. But Occupy Central supporters were immediately handcuffed.”
This afternoon, Democratic Party chairwoman Emily Lau Wai-hing said she received an email from Executive Councillor Fanny Law Fan Chiu-fun, who suggested that pan-democrats and pro-government lawmakers should issue a joint statement to call for peace.
“We welcome dialogue. However, it appears that people with [triad gang] ‘backgrounds’ are behind the incident,” Lau said.
Occupy and anti-occupy groups scuffle in Mong Kok on Saturday. Photo: Sam Tsang
Independent pan-democrat Joseph Lee Kok-long said the city “has been taken over by triad gangs ... it is anarchy” while Fernando Cheung Chiu-hung from the Labour Party said “our society has reached a point where violence may erupt any time.”
Earlier this morning, scores of anti-Occupy protesters wearing blue ribbons gathered in Admiralty before marching to police headquarters, chanting “Support police”.
As they left the MTR station in Admiralty, the “blue-ribbon” marchers shouted at the Occupy protestors wearing yellow ribbons.
The group plan to rally in Tsim Sha Tsui and Mong Kok later today.
In Causeway Bay, the number of demonstrators has swelled this afternoon after dwindling overnight.
Police patrolling the area outside the Sogo department store on Hennessy Road have reportedly asked anti-Occupy protesters to leave if they shout or try to start a fight.
The Foreign Correspondents Club in Hong Kong released a statement this afternoon condemning the violence against the media after reports of journalists being assaulted or threatened while covering the protests.
One foreign reporter was hit in the face with a full water bottle and an RTHK reporter was reportedly beaten by police, the statement said.
Student protests leaders said the government had to provide further explanation for the violence in Mong Kok before they could hold further talks with the administration after plans were shelved to meet Chief Secretary Lam.
Meanwhile, Alex Chow Yong-kang, Secretary General of the Federation of Students said protest organisers would continue to help supporters to occupy streets in different areas, including Mong Kok and Causeway Bay. This is in contrast with the calls last night by Occupy co-founder Benny Tai Yiu-ting, who asked supporters leaving Mong Kok.
Student leaders also accused the police of colluding with triads and vowed to continue their fight for true universal suffrage.
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K Shamu supporting Eleven's PRC govt
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...dia-reports-biased-against-china-says-shanmug
Typical Shamu. Once again shows he's a terrible foreign minister.
http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...dia-reports-biased-against-china-says-shanmug
Typical Shamu. Once again shows he's a terrible foreign minister.
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Re: LKY will support HK democracy movements!
According to Old Fart's comments some time ago
Xi Jinping is the Nelson Mandela of Asia
This is proof beyond doubt that Old Fart is senile
According to Old Fart's comments some time ago
Xi Jinping is the Nelson Mandela of Asia
This is proof beyond doubt that Old Fart is senile
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Re: FAP Teaching China How to Deal with Hongkongers
The Contempt of Court Bill is still not done yet?
What the fark is grossly overpaid Law MiniSTAR doing
He was supposed to have finished it two years ago
What can other countries learn from an inefficient servant
Other than not to give him more than one portfolio
Or better still to get rid of people like as soon as possible
http://www.smu.edu.sg/news/2012/05/18/contempt-court-bill-be-tabled-year
The Contempt of Court Bill is still not done yet?
What the fark is grossly overpaid Law MiniSTAR doing
He was supposed to have finished it two years ago
What can other countries learn from an inefficient servant
Other than not to give him more than one portfolio
Or better still to get rid of people like as soon as possible
http://www.smu.edu.sg/news/2012/05/18/contempt-court-bill-be-tabled-year
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Re: FAP Teaching China How to Deal with Hongkongers
Ass Loon: And what about this? SOP is max restraint when it comes to my FT pets what! *chey*
40%: When dealing with SGs leh?
Ass Loon: Max FORCE! *hee*hee*
40%: And therefore consistent with your position on asking the PRC commies to deal with HK protestors with max FORCE?
Ass Loon: Ahbathen? *hee*hee*
60%: *applause*
Ass Loon: And what about this? SOP is max restraint when it comes to my FT pets what! *chey*
40%: When dealing with SGs leh?
Ass Loon: Max FORCE! *hee*hee*
40%: And therefore consistent with your position on asking the PRC commies to deal with HK protestors with max FORCE?
Ass Loon: Ahbathen? *hee*hee*
60%: *applause*
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