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Obama's $1 Trillion Plan to End Bank Crisis
The Treasury Secretary Hopes to Attract Private Investors to Buy Toxic Assets

By MATTHEW JAFFE and JAKE TAPPER
March 23, 2009—

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner announced today a much-anticipated plan that could cost up to $1 trillion in public and private funds which the president hopes will play a key role in ending the nation's banking crisis.

The plan aims to remove so-called toxic assets -- many of them bad mortgage investments -- from the banks' balance sheets through a private-public partnership. The program will rely heavily on private investors, such as hedge funds and private-equity firms, to buy up $500 billion to $1 trillion of assets with the government providing incentives such as low interest loans and sharing in both the risk and possible profits.

"The point of the program is to save the taxpayers money by attracting private capital," a senior administration official said.

With the bad assets off their balance sheets, banks would be expected to start lending again.

The $1 trillion Public-Private Investment Program is Obama's latest attempt to pull the economy out of its dive, but it's not the last. On Tuesday, the administration wil lay out its plans to increase its regulation of Wall Street to ensure that the current crisis is not repeated.

Click Here for the Latest Business Stories From ABC News

The administration needs to address two problems. First, banks are not lending because their balance sheets are weighed down by these deteriorating toxic assets. Second, the assets are tough to price because of currently depressed pricing levels.

To solve these problems, the treasury's plan is guided by a program with three general principles.

Using the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the government will leverage private capital by co-investing with the private sector. If the private sector has financing provided by the government, buying these assets becomes a more attractive option.

Second, the administration wants the market, not the government, to set the price for these assets.

"The greatest waste of taxpayer dollars would be us paying too much," an official said.

No Silver Bullet

Third, the private sector will invest alongside the taxpayer on an equal basis, so both parties share the downside risk and upside potential.

To accomplish this, the treasury will partner with the FDIC in a program where banks can bring assets they want to sell to the FDIC. The FDIC will provide leverage, then the assets will be sold in the market, where private market participants will bid on them, thereby setting the price. Then the government can co-invest with the private sector to buy pools of toxic assets and clean up the banks' balance sheets.

To address toxic securities, the treasury will partner with the Fed in a program building on an existing lending program. The Fed will provide leverage for private sector participants to buy securities.

"This is not something that shields the private sector from risk," a senior administration official said. "If they do well, we will do well. If we do poorly, they will do poorly as well. So it avoids what's been so wrong in the past where you've had, as the president has said, 'Heads I win. Tails the taxpayer loses.'"

"We have seen and I expect to see a lot of interest from the private sector," Geithner said in announcing the program, although he said the private investors will try to take on "more risk or a greater share of the losses."

"But I think you're going to see a fair amount of interest in this," Geithner said.

Some investors though might shy away, concerned about a populist revolt.

"There is a fear that if you do well off this, they are going to come after you," said Charles Biderman, CEO of TrimTabs Investment Research, which provides data to investors including many hedge funds. "I wouldn't want to participate with this. I don't want busloads of people coming to my house."

But Joel L. Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors and chief economist for TD Bank, said that investors will participate.

"The question is: how much can they wring from the government to insulate themselves from this," Naroff said. "I don't think they are going to be tarred and feathered if they get involved in a partnership with the government and they make money off of it."

Besides, such profits wouldn't be seen for several years.

"If they are making money off it, it means that the market has moved forward, it means things are getting better and people's focus of attention will have changed," Noraoff said.

The administration emphasizes that there is no "silver bullet" to solve this problem.

"This is a large problem that is going to take a long time to solve," a senior administration official said.

"We're attempting to coax a multitrillion-dollar market back to life in an extremely difficult economic and market environment and that's going to take time," the senior official said.

Today's detailed plan comes a month after the Obama administration first announced it would try to take the toxic assets off the banks' books. But the timing might be difficult.

The public has grown weary of multibillion-dollar bailout after bailout, especially when learning about executives still buying private jets and receiving large bonuses. Last week, the nation learned that some executives at insurance giant AIG had gotten a total of $165 million in bonuses after the company gave received more than $170 billion in government bailouts to remain in business.

And today, ABC News revealed that JP Morgan is spending tens of millions on new corporate jets as well as a plush new hangar for its aircraft.

At the same time, government efforts to rein in such bonuses have made some banks and investors wary of doing business with the government.

Obama Says Some Assets "Completely Worthless"

Obama made the case for today's massive program during his appearance Sunday on "60 Minutes" when he argued that it's necessary to team up with Wall Street because there are "systemic risks" in the economy.

"There are certain institutions that are so big that if they fail, they bring a lot of other financial institutions down with them," he told "60 Minutes."

Still, there is the problem of how to value these "toxic assets" and Obama suggested on "60 Minutes" that some of them may be "completely worthless." Nevertheless, the banks holding them expect to sell them.

"The banks are going to be looking for something like 60 cents on the dollar and that the investors would only be willing to pay 30 cents," Douglas Elliott of the Brookings Institute told "Good Morning America."

Christina Romer, head of the Council of Economic Advisers, told "GMA" that about 8 percent of the investment money will come from private sources, but the rest of the money to buy the toxic assets will come from taxpayers.

She emphasized that the $1 trillion program is just part of the effort to lift the economy that has included money for banks, for small businesses, for homeowners and a stimulus program to spend billions on highways, bridges and other infrastructure programs.

Administration officials said the new program was better than the two other alternatives.

Bad option No. 1: let the toxic assets stay on the banks' balance sheets, "the kind of hands-off approach that has led to other countries having financial crises that lasted years and years as opposed to months and months."

Bad option No. 2: have a single public bank buy up all the toxic assets, an approach in which "the taxpayer would take all the risk instead of sharing the risk" and that could involve the public bank overpaying for the assets.

Copyright © 2009 ABC News Internet Ventures
 

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Obama's $1 Trillion Plan to End Bank Crisis
The Treasury Secretary Hopes to Attract Private Investors to Buy Toxic Assets

By MATTHEW JAFFE and JAKE TAPPER
March 23, 2009—

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner announced today a much-anticipated plan that could cost up to $1 trillion in public and private funds which the president hopes will play a key role in ending the nation's banking crisis.

The plan aims to remove so-called toxic assets -- many of them bad mortgage investments -- from the banks' balance sheets through a private-public partnership. The program will rely heavily on private investors, such as hedge funds and private-equity firms, to buy up $500 billion to $1 trillion of assets with the government providing incentives such as low interest loans and sharing in both the risk and possible profits.

"The point of the program is to save the taxpayers money by attracting private capital," a senior administration official said.

With the bad assets off their balance sheets, banks would be expected to start lending again.

The $1 trillion Public-Private Investment Program is Obama's latest attempt to pull the economy out of its dive, but it's not the last. On Tuesday, the administration wil lay out its plans to increase its regulation of Wall Street to ensure that the current crisis is not repeated.

Click Here for the Latest Business Stories From ABC News

The administration needs to address two problems. First, banks are not lending because their balance sheets are weighed down by these deteriorating toxic assets. Second, the assets are tough to price because of currently depressed pricing levels.

To solve these problems, the treasury's plan is guided by a program with three general principles.

Using the Federal Reserve System and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the government will leverage private capital by co-investing with the private sector. If the private sector has financing provided by the government, buying these assets becomes a more attractive option.

Second, the administration wants the market, not the government, to set the price for these assets.

"The greatest waste of taxpayer dollars would be us paying too much," an official said.

No Silver Bullet

Third, the private sector will invest alongside the taxpayer on an equal basis, so both parties share the downside risk and upside potential.

To accomplish this, the treasury will partner with the FDIC in a program where banks can bring assets they want to sell to the FDIC. The FDIC will provide leverage, then the assets will be sold in the market, where private market participants will bid on them, thereby setting the price. Then the government can co-invest with the private sector to buy pools of toxic assets and clean up the banks' balance sheets.

To address toxic securities, the treasury will partner with the Fed in a program building on an existing lending program. The Fed will provide leverage for private sector participants to buy securities.

"This is not something that shields the private sector from risk," a senior administration official said. "If they do well, we will do well. If we do poorly, they will do poorly as well. So it avoids what's been so wrong in the past where you've had, as the president has said, 'Heads I win. Tails the taxpayer loses.'"

"We have seen and I expect to see a lot of interest from the private sector," Geithner said in announcing the program, although he said the private investors will try to take on "more risk or a greater share of the losses."

"But I think you're going to see a fair amount of interest in this," Geithner said.

Some investors though might shy away, concerned about a populist revolt.

"There is a fear that if you do well off this, they are going to come after you," said Charles Biderman, CEO of TrimTabs Investment Research, which provides data to investors including many hedge funds. "I wouldn't want to participate with this. I don't want busloads of people coming to my house."

But Joel L. Naroff, president of Naroff Economic Advisors and chief economist for TD Bank, said that investors will participate.

"The question is: how much can they wring from the government to insulate themselves from this," Naroff said. "I don't think they are going to be tarred and feathered if they get involved in a partnership with the government and they make money off of it."

Besides, such profits wouldn't be seen for several years.

"If they are making money off it, it means that the market has moved forward, it means things are getting better and people's focus of attention will have changed," Noraoff said.

The administration emphasizes that there is no "silver bullet" to solve this problem.

"This is a large problem that is going to take a long time to solve," a senior administration official said.

"We're attempting to coax a multitrillion-dollar market back to life in an extremely difficult economic and market environment and that's going to take time," the senior official said.

Today's detailed plan comes a month after the Obama administration first announced it would try to take the toxic assets off the banks' books. But the timing might be difficult.

The public has grown weary of multibillion-dollar bailout after bailout, especially when learning about executives still buying private jets and receiving large bonuses. Last week, the nation learned that some executives at insurance giant AIG had gotten a total of $165 million in bonuses after the company gave received more than $170 billion in government bailouts to remain in business.

And today, ABC News revealed that JP Morgan is spending tens of millions on new corporate jets as well as a plush new hangar for its aircraft.

At the same time, government efforts to rein in such bonuses have made some banks and investors wary of doing business with the government.

Obama Says Some Assets "Completely Worthless"

Obama made the case for today's massive program during his appearance Sunday on "60 Minutes" when he argued that it's necessary to team up with Wall Street because there are "systemic risks" in the economy.

"There are certain institutions that are so big that if they fail, they bring a lot of other financial institutions down with them," he told "60 Minutes."

Still, there is the problem of how to value these "toxic assets" and Obama suggested on "60 Minutes" that some of them may be "completely worthless." Nevertheless, the banks holding them expect to sell them.

"The banks are going to be looking for something like 60 cents on the dollar and that the investors would only be willing to pay 30 cents," Douglas Elliott of the Brookings Institute told "Good Morning America."

Christina Romer, head of the Council of Economic Advisers, told "GMA" that about 8 percent of the investment money will come from private sources, but the rest of the money to buy the toxic assets will come from taxpayers.

She emphasized that the $1 trillion program is just part of the effort to lift the economy that has included money for banks, for small businesses, for homeowners and a stimulus program to spend billions on highways, bridges and other infrastructure programs.

Administration officials said the new program was better than the two other alternatives.

Bad option No. 1: let the toxic assets stay on the banks' balance sheets, "the kind of hands-off approach that has led to other countries having financial crises that lasted years and years as opposed to months and months."

Bad option No. 2: have a single public bank buy up all the toxic assets, an approach in which "the taxpayer would take all the risk instead of sharing the risk" and that could involve the public bank overpaying for the assets.

Copyright © 2009 ABC News Internet Ventures

Obama doesn't have any such fucking money to squander, and no one is foolish enough to lend him any. He must be printing counterfeit notes to spend or conducting fraud. Clinton tried to sell bonds but no buyer.
 

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Obama doesn't have any such fucking money to squander, and no one is foolish enough to lend him any. He must be printing counterfeit notes to spend or conducting fraud. Clinton tried to sell bonds but no buyer.

Where did the previous president get the money to fund all the wars then?
 

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China buying their treasury bills. So stupid all these ah tiongs. Old Bum Man will default at the first opportunity!
 

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Where did the previous president get the money to fund all the wars then?

Bush uses US govt federal deficit to finance his war efforts. I do not know the real figures, probably most the weapons due for expiry were expended to bomb Iraq and Afraganistan. Then US ask the new Iraqi govt to pay up part of the military bills with the Iraqi oil. Alot of the war money was paid to 'contract' soldiers who were ex-US military men and the lots of projects (oil for imported goods deals) are handled by Haliburton (one of the top person is Dick Cheney). So you see, the money get recycled from one pocket to another within US. No big flow of money out of US.

It is the imports of all kind of goods and the banking failures that is now causing the economic crisis. For more indepth analysis, u may like to go to my blog, http://deltafund.blogspot.com

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Found this blogger commenting on Obama's printing money and comparing the crisis to waves of a tsunami

http://deltafund.blogspot.com/

I'd have preferred a limited exercise in nationalising the banks in America, although Obama has little choice in finding a solution that the private sector is comfortable with, and which his Republican opponents would feel less discomforted about.

In the end though, its not Obama who created this crisis; it was Bush. And because Bush left him a deficit that has spiraled out of control, and in a recession where even more government spending is needed to keep the economy from spinning out of whack, Obama has no choice but to borrow- due to the difficult circumstances.

Still, as I said before, if you have a better solution to Obama's choice, then go ahead and say it. Otherwise criticism here about government spending and deficits- due to your brand of politics and perhaps, sudden change of opinion in being fiscal conservative- and of Obama will become somewhat empty.
 

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.....Still, as I said before, if you have a better solution to Obama's choice, then go ahead and say it. Otherwise criticism here about government spending and deficits- due to your brand of politics and perhaps, sudden change of opinion in being fiscal conservative- and of Obama will become somewhat empty.

deltafund blog only focus is how the global economy will pane out, taking economic and political effects into consideration. It is not interested in who is right or wrong.

In fact, I won't give Bush the credit of bringing down the US economy as he is not that smart even to do it. In 1980s, Continental Bank (7th largest US bank at that time) was 100% nationalised when it failed, and subsequently it was wind down at a loss of only USD1+billion. Nordic countries also underwent similar banking crisis in 1990s and their government nationalised the 'bankrupt' banks and finally resolved the problem. Partial nationalisation will only allows the bankers to continue to pay themselves big bonuses, and wait for more bailout money.

The main reason for the failure of US, UK and other capitalist systems is due to the conflicts of interests' practices. For those who are interested in economic arguments, you can visit my blog at http://deltathots.blogspot.com

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deltafund blog only focus is how the global economy will pane out, taking economic and political effects into consideration. It is not interested in who is right or wrong.

In fact, I won't give Bush the credit of bringing down the US economy as he is not that smart even to do it. In 1980s, Continental Bank (7th largest US bank at that time) was 100% nationalised when it failed, and subsequently it was wind down at a loss of only USD1+billion. Nordic countries also underwent similar banking crisis in 1990s and their government nationalised the 'bankrupt' banks and finally resolved the problem. Partial nationalisation will only allows the bankers to continue to pay themselves big bonuses, and wait for more bailout money.

The main reason for the failure of US, UK and other capitalist systems is due to the conflicts of interests' practices. For those who are interested in economic arguments, you can visit my blog at http://deltathots.blogspot.com

Art

The seed of financial self destruction is planted by the Clinton administration.

They pass a law, to grade banks according their willingness to lend to the poor, a good intention but a foolish one which pave the way for sub prime crisis.
 

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The seed of financial self destruction is planted by the Clinton administration.

They pass a law, to grade banks according their willingness to lend to the poor, a good intention but a foolish one which pave the way for sub prime crisis.

Yes, Clinton was part of the whole de-regulation process that was started during the Reagan and Thatcher era. Greenspan under Clinton era, further de-regulate the finance sector, which was followed up by Bush.

BASEL II agreement in 2006 made a key change to risk assessment to be based on each individual bank's INTERNAL judgement of risk. That allows risk to be 'game' to show as much profit as possible (which bankers' bonuses are based on).

Example of conflicts of interests practices are one, rating agency paid by the banks resulted in sub-standard rating of sub-prime as AAA. Two, Enron and other big firms were declared in 'great' financial health by their auditors who was paid by Enron before they failed shortly after. Madoff's auditor confirmed that the account bookings were reflective of the business which shows profits throughout the year. Other examples are in my blog.

US FASB and IASB or global accounting bodies are close to relaxing the rule on 'price-to-market' of assets such as to allow each firm to price their own 'fire-sale' or 'illiquid' assets according to their INTERNAL assessment, and not based on specific guideline of how it is to be priced. If this new ruling is accepted, again it opens up the chance of gaming the system.

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Art Lim

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Found this blogger commenting on Obama's printing money and comparing the crisis to waves of a tsunami

http://deltafund.blogspot.com/

Thanks, Besotted for pointing my blog to the fellow readers. As mentioned before, my interest is pointing out the twist and turn of this global economic crisis and how to profit from it.

This week is the beginning of the 1st wave reversal that I talked about in my blog. To understand the rationale, you are all welcome to visit my blog.

Art
 

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so he is there to save the bank or bail out the banks.

But did he ask those incompetence to leave the banks or still let them hold on to their jobs. If so , then the bank will still fall in future as the bad hats is still there to run the thing.
 

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It is perfectly legitimate to question how the world's most powerful and at the same time financially bankrupt nation, is going to pay for the cost of saving their own skins.

As usual, it will be at the expense of the rest of the world.

Probably financed by bonds which other countries will buy and which the USA can never repay.

If the US dollar is from a less powerful nation, it would have become a banana currency.

In any case, the plus factor is that world trade (excluding intellectual property and entertainment) is becoming less reliant on the USA.


Going back to the point that Obama spend like there is no tomorrow, well his presidency is for two terms at most and though the buck stops at him, he will make sure that the ball does not remain with him.

As such, short-term policies to prevent a free-fall in the US economy is the order of the day. The inflationary pressure can be taken care of later and in any case is far better than anarchy in the streets. The other aspects can be handled either in the ivory towers of academia or the self-interested logic of sponsored economists.
 

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The 2008 US financial meltdown is so severe that either Obama's team make the world believe that US banks are ok with some US govt help (USD12 trillions injection) or admit that the banks are basically insolvent (a technical term for bankrupt).

To nationalise the banks may give them away and may trigger global fear. At the same time, where to find good bankers (capable and trustworthy) to run these banks. Obama's man who suppose to provide the funding to US car giants are now under investigation for being on the take.

Current Obama's mode is to play it cool, inject lots of money, hoping for things to slowly ease back to normal. Renowned economists, Stiglitz, Roubini and Andy Xie think that Obama's team is heading the wrong direction while Obama's team; Summers, Geithners and Bernanke think they are on the right track.

I rather trust those who make money from fin market; Soros, Marc Faber and Jim Rogers who think that this is a bear rally and it will take a long time (maybe 10 yrs) for US to overcome the crisis and recover. By then, it will be a multi-polar economic world of 3 giants--US, Europe and Asia (China leading the charge)
 

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who want to buy a fruit basket? singapore maybe, for long term investment.
if malaysian and indonesia invade, we can move pap dogs to usa property.
 
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