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Now, 'Sulu Sultan' wants talks with Malaysia in Neutral country 'Singapore'

ionzu

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there was a bloomberg article that pointed out the relation between kiram and aroyo (kiram ran for a senate seat under Aroyo's ticket.)
no love lost between aquino and aroyo. unlikely kiram had the funds to pull off this stunt on his own.
 

laksaboy

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Official website of Team Kiram (warning, website is poorly designed):

http://www.sandakan.com/

Kiram the First was quite a handsome fellow.

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Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III : “I’m the poorest sultan in the world,” the ailing Kiram, 74, told The Associated Press in an interview at his residence in Maharlika village in Taguig City.​

At his Maharlika village home, the sultan, who has failed kidneys and a heart ailment, struggled with slurred speech to proudly recount the saga of his clan’s empire based in the Sulu archipelago in the southern Philippines. Chinese and European leaders, he said, once sent vassals to pay homage to his powerful forebears. The Sulu sultanate, which emerged in the 1400s, preceded both the Philippine republic and Malaysia by centuries.
The exploits of the sultanate’s native Tausug warriors were so legendary, the Brunei sultan at the time sought their help in putting down a rebellion in the 1600-1700s. When the uprising was crushed, the Brunei sultan handed over Sabah – then part of Brunei – to his Sulu counterpart as a gift of gratitude.
A Filipino sultan later leased Sabah to a British colonial-era company. The territory was later annexed by Britain. In 1963, six years after colonial Malaya gained independence, Sabah voted to join the new Malaysia.
The Sulu sultanate had steadily declined through the centuries, its power passed on to a succession of leaders and heirs. Jamalul Kiram III is the 33rd sultan and a symbolic leader with followers in Sulu and nearby southern provinces, which are among the country’s poorest and are troubled by Muslim rebels, al-Qaeda-linked extremists and outlaws.
Born in Sulu’s far-flung Maimbung town in 1938, Kiram is a beloved leader who in his youth turned to dance and singing and played sports, including his favorite, tennis. He once worked as a disc jockey in a Jolo radio station. He took up law but failed to take the bar exams when he joined a prominent cultural dance group in the 1960s, according to his wife, Fatima Celia.
He also ran for senator in 2007, backed by former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo – a tacit recognition of his sultanate leadership – but lost, leaving his family in debt due to the high campaign expenses, she said.
Last year, the sultan was diagnosed with failed kidneys and began to receive dialysis treatment, causing family members to miss out on monthly payments for their house, which they nearly lost had friends not helped out, Celia said.
Since then, Kiram has mostly been sidelined to his bedroom, which resembles a hospital unit with two oxygen tanks and serves as an office where he met visitors and followers seeking all sorts of help.
In his younger years, Kiram said he traveled often to Sabah. “It’s really very rich,” he said of Sabah. “When I’m in Sabah, I feel at home.”
Sabah and Sulu are separated by a narrow strip of the Sulu Sea that at its shortest span can be traversed by boat in 30 minutes. The two provinces have shared traditional ties, and people, who are of the same ethnic stock, frequently travel back and forth.
Some 800,000 Filipinos, mostly Muslims, have settled in Sabah over the years to seek work and stability.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2013/03/08/917097/kiram-im-poorest-sultan-world
 

Devil Within

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Why Singapore? Don't think it's a good ideal for Singapore to get involved. They should go to their Muslim brother Brunei instead.
 

kongsimi

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why sultan of sulu never argh kah leow with the badassed sultan of johor?

if not this kind of shit will not happen.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Aiyah why can't this m&d slime get his fellow m&d slime mudland brothers that since both of them are m&d slimes they should just forget it.
 

AttilaTheHun

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Those Sulu savages have already gone this far, what is there to talk?

Just cut off their hands, legs, tongues and dick out their eyes and let them die a slow death.
 

halsey02

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For Sinkee to be involved in anything, there must be some $$$$ on the table. No money, no talk.

You got it right, it is MONEY!!. The Sultan complaining over a miserable token of few thousands Ringgit?? & this had been paid for ages, since Raja James Brooke time. I am sure these people are now the simple folks living in simple surroundings as portrayed by the press, they have fat bank accounts I am sure with wide business spread over that part of the world.

It is oil, natural gad & whatever is being discovered...& they want share of it...OIL!!!
 

The_Hypocrite

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I think the php gahmen have a side deal w mudland. Let the mudland military deal with the invaders in sabah. Get rid of them n less problems for the pinoys
 

zeddy

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This old farker is pissing in his pants now..

He knows that his rag team army of clowns are now close to being routed by the Malaysian Army..

He's also worried for the safety of his brother who is part of the Sulu bandits that first landed in Sabah few weeks ago..

Najib should just hire a professional killer in Manila and shoot this old farker while he is going for his weekly dialysis treatment..
 

Kentang

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wah so many arm chair generals without actual military knowledge.. these terrorist suluks cannot be defeated because this is a 'asymmetrical warfare' being fought. those in the officers training course should know this. in this environment the larger and well equip forces (truly asia) may appear to have upper hand but thats what the suluks want them to believe... the insurgents have the knowledge of the terrain and have painted every ground in their territory. their constant movement is like a 'curve ball' they want you to think that your mopping up ops is done and safe zone establish only to find out that they re-appear again, they fight at night ala Vietcong to wear your troops down and in the morning they are peace loving citizen. FA-18 is useless for insurgency warfare unless you want to wipe out the kampung, but the insurgent knows that, right, so they are not in the kampung when the FA-18 bomb them... aiyoh, this one will be a long war... better buy more popcorn and watch..
 

halsey02

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wah so many arm chair generals without actual military knowledge.. these terrorist suluks cannot be defeated because this is a 'asymmetrical warfare' being fought. those in the officers training course should know this. in this environment the larger and well equip forces (truly asia) may appear to have upper hand but thats what the suluks want them to believe... the insurgents have the knowledge of the terrain and have painted every ground in their territory. their constant movement is like a 'curve ball' they want you to think that your mopping up ops is done and safe zone establish only to find out that they re-appear again, they fight at night ala Vietcong to wear your troops down and in the morning they are peace loving citizen. FA-18 is useless for insurgency warfare unless you want to wipe out the kampung, but the insurgent knows that, right, so they are not in the kampung when the FA-18 bomb them... aiyoh, this one will be a long war... better buy more popcorn and watch..

The Americans in Vietnam have a solution to this...Agent Orange & Napalm..the Malaysian Army are jungle trained...but it will be interesting to watch what will be unfolding in days to come..we will get to see the Malaysian Army at work & the "terrorists" of Southern Philippines, the Filipino government will be very happy, if the Malaysian Army can decimate their problems...
 
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red amoeba

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Now cannot kill him Liao...even he die of dengue immediately mudland will b suspected. Best to leave him alone n weed out the remnants. Neutral country go tok in North Korea lah...
 

quartz28

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wah so many arm chair generals without actual military knowledge.. these terrorist suluks cannot be defeated because this is a 'asymmetrical warfare' being fought. those in the officers training course should know this. in this environment the larger and well equip forces (truly asia) may appear to have upper hand but thats what the suluks want them to believe... the insurgents have the knowledge of the terrain and have painted every ground in their territory. their constant movement is like a 'curve ball' they want you to think that your mopping up ops is done and safe zone establish only to find out that they re-appear again, they fight at night ala Vietcong to wear your troops down and in the morning they are peace loving citizen. FA-18 is useless for insurgency warfare unless you want to wipe out the kampung, but the insurgent knows that, right, so they are not in the kampung when the FA-18 bomb them... aiyoh, this one will be a long war... better buy more popcorn and watch..

Yes...but provided the sulu mercenaries got the will and more importantly money (from their paymaster)....else they will soon run road far far.....look like a lost cause to me......they are extreme underdogs which I can't see why Msia would wanna negotiate ....unless this espisode affects BN politically which now is no.
 

tonychat

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If i am the Malaysian head, you think i will talk to him.

who is he to tell others if he wants to talk means others have to talk to him.

His men has killed some Malaysians and that destroyed all talks.

Malaysian will want that guy and his troops to get out of Sabah as of now. If they dun complied, they will be killed in no time.

There is not a need to talk to him..
 

tonychat

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This is a very Sulu-kie sultan...

Want to claim glory by going to war????

in this modern time??? what a joke....
 

kingrant

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Wah lau! Pachik Kiram thinks he is a head of a state or govt? want to talk to PM Najib? Who is he dah?

And is Sinkapore neutral?
 
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