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Now is the time to see whether Tharman will be another Ong Teng Cheong

Now that Thambi has won, the only consolation is that at least he is being elected by Singaporeans and much better than Halimah with a walkover, LOL.

Let's pray hard that he'll be another Ong Teng Cheong, if not, better than Ong Teng Cheong to be able to question the PAP-Gov with an 'independent' mind which he has claimed to be. He also said that no one can fool him when it comes to the management of reserves as he was the former finance minister and chairman of MAS.

He must now " poke and query everything the pap does, be independent and have the people's interest at heart. Place our well being first and foremost. "
what fucking fantasy is this? why would he be anything like OTC. He is another PAP cocksucker, u better wake up your idea
 
what fucking fantasy is this? why would he be anything like OTC. He is another PAP cocksucker, u better wake up your idea
That's why must pray hard lor... else...

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MediaCorpse irrational theory: Maybe Tharman really dulan being sideline for PM (SG not ready for Indian PM)
Become President to really checkmate his former Party, to end his politic career on a high note, leave a legacy.
Be a 2 term Presidency, vow be the best President, even better than Ong Teng Cheong, ridout all the weeds
 
MediaCorpse irrational theory: Maybe Tharman really dulan being sideline for PM (SG not ready for Indian PM)
Become President to really checkmate his former Party, to end his politic career on a high note, leave a legacy.
Be a 2 term Presidency, vow be the best President, even better than Ong Teng Cheong, ridout all the weeds
 
That is ludicrous. The PAP and FamiLee have vetted him upside down. If there is even a small hint that he is disobedient, he would not be put in there
 
MediaCorpse irrational theory: Maybe Tharman really dulan being sideline for PM (SG not ready for Indian PM)
Become President to really checkmate his former Party, to end his politic career on a high note, leave a legacy.
Be a 2 term Presidency, vow be the best President, even better than Ong Teng Cheong, ridout all the weeds
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That is ludicrous. The PAP and FamiLee have vetted him upside down. If there is even a small hint that he is disobedient, he would not be put in there
Vetted him but still can't control his 'independent' mind mah...not forgetting that he claimed he used to be an 'activist' during student days...

oh wait..

unless they have something on him which compels him to obey at all costs like a puppet...LOL.
 
All we can do now is hope and pray, wish for the best. I am 50/50 on optimism and pessimism. Either numb lao or don't give a fuck anymore.:biggrin:
 
Let's all calm down & be RATIONAL.

The late Mr Ong TC had been a stalwart citizen & served our Nation for decades, rose from the ranks. He was credited with being the few whom dared to challenged our great Founding Father Mr LKY over the issue of transportation need of Singapore, for the creation of MRT that saw our progress & productivity of today.

In truth, he was not the only one whom pushed Mr. LKY over this issue. He presented facts & evidences that convinced Mr LKY. Such facts & evidences came from many, so many, that if true credit was allocated, it was from the far sighted COLLECTIVE - from drivers in back then SBS, mgmt, MOM, NTUC, NUS think tanks, MPs, Cabinet Ministers, etc, & approval was not overnite, but over time.

When Mr Ong TC became the President, his concern was over our National Treasury & Reserves. It became a focal point for citizens to join in such concerns, as our Reserves are kept secret, rightly so as many worldwide would desire for it for their own gains, by hook or by crook. Some were doubtful if there are such so called reserves even, for CPF to be paid out. But in reality, our GDP had been proven resilient & just a sense of scale, it is almost $400 BILLION/yr, with just a mere 3.5 million citizens & 1.5 foreigners working here. (No one, NONE, had been denied of the CPF earnings when they retire, or CONTINUED residual income should they decide to leave such funds in CPF with higher interest rates.)

Such revenue came from legitimate sources as Singapore is a Rule of Law nation, where every deal is often scrutinized, & with often a balance national budget, there are earnings returned back to our treasuries, as well as our SWF earnings, with more gains than losses. Thus there is no need to fear, as we live in a strategic location on Earth where all points of the compass meets for trade. Wealth is assured, but only upon the hands of right & qualified leaders elected.

So what was Mr Ong TC's concerns & ULTIMATELY, even if it was possible to break down every single cent in the Reserves, WHAT would he had done with it? To give all citizens those funds to frivolously spend today & then worry about social expenditure tomorrow, as some of the greedy would desire?

No. Should Mr Ong TC knew how MUCH money is the reserves, he would have kept quiet, as he is a patriot, proven by his decades of service to our Nation. And as a President, he would be constraint by Parliament as he has no executive powers except over minor areas. Thus may those who claimed that Mr, Ong TC is a hero, they are misguided & fooled, & are only used as tools by others to gain political power.

Mr Thaman, who is due to take office soon as our next President, is a patriot too, proven by his decades of service to our Nation. For those whom wished for a heavily politicized President, may they be aware that our democracy is different from USA, where confrontation is the norm. Here in Singapore, we are cool, & positive engagements are the way to progress, at times even silently without the masses even knowing except when they wake up to a better dawn than yesterday, with needs provided, leaving none behind....
 
Let's all calm down & be RATIONAL.

The late Mr Ong TC had been a stalwart citizen & served our Nation for decades, rose from the ranks. He was credited with being the few whom dared to challenged our great Founding Father Mr LKY over the issue of transportation need of Singapore, for the creation of MRT that saw our progress & productivity of today.

In truth, he was not the only one whom pushed Mr. LKY over this issue. He presented facts & evidences that convinced Mr LKY. Such facts & evidences came from many, so many, that if true credit was allocated, it was from the far sighted COLLECTIVE - from drivers in back then SBS, mgmt, MOM, NTUC, NUS think tanks, MPs, Cabinet Ministers, etc, & approval was not overnite, but over time.

When Mr Ong TC became the President, his concern was over our National Treasury & Reserves. It became a focal point for citizens to join in such concerns, as our Reserves are kept secret, rightly so as many worldwide would desire for it for their own gains, by hook or by crook. Some were doubtful if there are such so called reserves even, for CPF to be paid out. But in reality, our GDP had been proven resilient & just a sense of scale, it is almost $400 BILLION/yr, with just a mere 3.5 million citizens & 1.5 foreigners working here. (No one, NONE, had been denied of the CPF earnings when they retire, or CONTINUED residual income should they decide to leave such funds in CPF with higher interest rates.)

Such revenue came from legitimate sources as Singapore is a Rule of Law nation, where every deal is often scrutinized, & with often a balance national budget, there are earnings returned back to our treasuries, as well as our SWF earnings, with more gains than losses. Thus there is no need to fear, as we live in a strategic location on Earth where all points of the compass meets for trade. Wealth is assured, but only upon the hands of right & qualified leaders elected.

So what was Mr Ong TC's concerns & ULTIMATELY, even if it was possible to break down every single cent in the Reserves, WHAT would he had done with it? To give all citizens those funds to frivolously spend today & then worry about social expenditure tomorrow, as some of the greedy would desire?

No. Should Mr Ong TC knew how MUCH money is the reserves, he would have kept quiet, as he is a patriot, proven by his decades of service to our Nation. And as a President, he would be constraint by Parliament as he has no executive powers except over minor areas. Thus may those who claimed that Mr, Ong TC is a hero, they are misguided & fooled, & are only used as tools by others to gain political power.

Mr Thaman, who is due to take office soon as our next President, is a patriot too, proven by his decades of service to our Nation. For those whom wished for a heavily politicized President, may they be aware that our democracy is different from USA, where confrontation is the norm. Here in Singapore, we are cool, & positive engagements are the way to progress, at times even silently without the masses even knowing except when they wake up to a better dawn than yesterday, with needs providedp, leaving none behind....
You really suck Piss And Poop's cock deep and hard. You think you'll win any converts here ?
 
Vetted him but still can't control his 'independent' mind mah...not forgetting that he claimed he used to be an 'activist' during student days...

oh wait..

unless they have something on him which compels him to obey at all costs like a puppet...LOL.
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Vetted him but still can't control his 'independent' mind mah...not forgetting that he claimed he used to be an 'activist' during student days...

oh wait..

unless they have something on him which compels him to obey at all costs like a puppet...LOL.
Kindly show me where he has an "independent" mind? Did he vote for GST increase? YES. Did he vote for minister obscene salaries? YES. As Finance Minster, he was the boss of Whore Jinx. Did he tell us what he was paying the jinx? NO. I can give so many example that he is a PAP dog. All u need to do is give me one example of his "independent" mind. Can or not?
 
Kindly show me where he has an "independent" mind? Did he vote for GST increase? YES. Did he vote for minister obscene salaries? YES. As Finance Minster, he was the boss of Whore Jinx. Did he tell us what he was paying the jinx? NO. I can give so many example that he is a PAP dog. All u need to do is give me one example of his "independent" mind. Can or not?
At those times as a PAP member and MP, he was bound by Party Whip, so have to vote yes, else might be expelled from the party. The Whip has rarely been lifted. TCB voted once against the Whip on the NCMP scheme and was warned by GCT.

Now he is technically not a PAP member or MP, just like TCB, it's up to his conscience to do the right thing. I don't think he will be another Halimah or as radical as TCB or OTC.

Actually I hope people will continue to pressure him to do the right thing to talk to the PM, like posting on his FB on cost of living issues etc.

This is his FB, many congrats him already. Time to do the needful to give him a earful on what he should do moving forward. Whether he takes your comment into account is another matter, LOL.

https://www.facebook.com/TharmanShanmugaratnam

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...as-it-been-lifted-and-which-countries-have-it
 
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https://mothership.sg/2023/09/psp-tharman-grc-system/

PSP's Leong Mun Wai congratulates Tharman on election victory, says it shows 'race-based' GRC system 'no longer relevant'​

To the PSP, Tharman's victory is "testimony to the fact that Singaporean voters do not vote along racial lines", Leong said.
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The Progress Singapore Party (PSP) congratulates Tharman Shanmugaratnam on his victory in the 2023 Presidential Election, said the party's secretary-general Leong Mun Wai in a Sep. 3 Facebook post.

Leong added the party's best wishes for his presidency.

"'Respect for all' is also something close to our hearts," said Leong, referencing Tharman's campaign slogan.

In his congratulatory note, Leong also suggested that Tharman's "overwhelming support" from voters — 70.4 per cent of the valid votes — could be interpreted as Singaporean voters responding to "racism".

Leong's congratulatory note to Tharman on behalf of the PSP comes after Workers' Party secretary-general Pritam Singh also congratulated Tharman on his win on Sep. 2.

PSP's interpretation of Tharman's win​

Leong said Tharman's victory over his fellow candidates Ng Kok Song and Tan Kin Lian, who are both from the Chinese majority race, was "testimony to the fact that Singaporean voters do not vote along racial lines".

This, Leong said, also meant that the "raced-based" group representation constituency (GRC) system and reserved presidency were "no longer relevant to our society".

PSP's position on the GRC system​

In July 2023, the Progress Singapore Party (PSP) proposed abolishing the GRC system, which was introduced in 1988 to ensure minority races would be represented in Parliament.

Problems the party highlighted with the system included how it slows the development of a balanced political landscape, reduces voter influence on elections, and only requires vacant seats in GRCs to be filled if the entire team of MPs vacates their seats.
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