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Now GE Rolls Royce etc ALL want move Jet Engine Production Lines to China! To try to sell to CR-919 C-919! Go Fly Kite! China will export better model

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全球航发巨头要在中国建生产线 但不生产最先进型号

全球航发巨头要在中国建生产线 但不生产最先进型号



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(英国罗罗是世界航发企业三巨头之一)
根据近期媒体发布的消息,为了和美国通用电气公司争抢中国CR929客机发动机订单,英国罗罗提议和中国航发企业成立联合企业,并在中国建立一条发动机生产装配线。而综合各方的报道显示,罗罗此次拿出的生产装配线很可能会和瑞达7000衍生型发动机有关,而这款发动机正是罗罗为CR929客机准备的动力选择。同时,作为CR929客机同等级别大型民用客机A330neo的独家动力,瑞达7000整体性能虽然要逊色于新一代的A350客机标配动力瑞达1700,但是总体性能还算不错。只是,瑞达7000发动机技术罗罗是不会出售的。
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(英国罗罗发动机公司的先进管理经验和系列标准也是中国航发很需要的)
无论是从世界航空动力科技一贯的输出规则来看,还是从罗罗关于在中国建立发动机生产装配线的表态来讲,罗罗瑞达7000衍生型号转移到中国的都只是装配过程,不会包含对华技术输出条款。而且,从罗罗只愿意拿出瑞达7000的衍生型号参与CR929动力竞标,并未拿出更新的瑞达1700,且拒绝做出针对性的改进态度来看,想要借助罗罗生产线获得英国航发技术,难比登天。
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(瑞达7000发动机)
经过一系列事件以后,对于依靠国外技术发展航发产业的思路,国内早已不再抱有任何期待,依靠自己也成了中国航发产业发展唯一的希望。但是,在航发产业管理和标准方面,我国还是能够从国外学到一些经验的,而这些也将会是罗罗中国发动机生产线对中国航发发展最大的帮助。
从建国后在苏联技术和标准的基础上发展了自主航空航发产业以后,国内企业虽然也在随后的几十年研发生产了一系列的发动机产品,并也大量列装使用,但是这些产品大多为军用型号,和民用产品在技术标准方面也有很多不同。同时,国内航发从开始就是借鉴的苏系模式,管理体系和标准也都和现今世界主流的西方标准有所区别,而这种区别也在一定程度上影响了中国航发产业的现代化之路。
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(瑞达7000是A330neo客机独家动力)

中国之所以在本世纪初启动民用大飞机专项和航发发展的庞大计划,资金充足、相对完善的工业基础当然是最重要前提,中国航空航发产业对西方技术标准的学习和借鉴也是非常重要的。罗罗公司发动机生产线管理经验和标准的引进,能够加速中国航发的发展。而在此情况下,即使罗罗不转让技术,我们也有得赚。(作者署名:利刃军事 利刃/CX)


Global aviation giants want to build production lines in China but do not produce the most advanced models


Global aviation giants want to build production lines in China but do not produce the most advanced models



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(Roller is one of the world's three largest airline companies) (Roller is one of the world's three largest airline companies)

According to recent media reports, in order to compete with the US General Electric Company for orders for China's CR929 passenger aircraft engines, the British Rolls-Royce proposed to establish a joint venture with China Aerospace Corporation and establish an engine production assembly line in China. According to reports from various parties, Luo Luo's production assembly line is likely to be related to the Ruida 7000 derivative engine, which is the power choice for Rolls-Royce for the CR929. At the same time, as the exclusive power of the A330neo, a large-scale civil passenger aircraft of the CR929 passenger aircraft, the overall performance of the Ruida 7000 is inferior to the new generation A350 passenger aircraft standard power Ruida 1700, but the overall performance is not bad. However, Ruida 7000 engine technology Rollo will not be sold.
(The advanced management experience and series standards of the British Rolls-Royce Engine Company are also very much needed by China Aerospace.) (The advanced management experience and series of standards of the British Rolls-Royce Engine Company are also very needed by China Aerospace)

Whether it is from the consistent output rules of the world's aerospace power technology, or from the statement of Rolls-Royce about establishing an engine assembly line in China, the transfer of the Rolls-Royce 7000 derivative model to China is only an assembly process and will not include technology for China. Output terms. Moreover, from Luo Luo only willing to take out the derivative model of Ruida 7000 to participate in the CR929 power bidding, did not come up with the updated Ruida 1700, and refused to make a targeted improvement attitude, want to use the Rolls Roy production line to obtain the United Kingdom Air navigation technology is hard to beat.
(Rida 7000 engine) (Rida 7000 engine)

After a series of events, China has long had no expectations for relying on foreign technology to develop the aviation industry. It has become the only hope for the development of China's aviation industry. However, in terms of aviation industry management and standards, China is still able to learn some experience from abroad, and these will also be the biggest help for the development of China Airlines in the Luo Luo China engine production line.

After the establishment of the autonomous aviation and aviation industry on the basis of Soviet technology and standards after the founding of the People's Republic of China, domestic companies have developed and produced a series of engine products in the following decades, and they are also widely installed. However, most of these products are used. There are also many differences between military models and civilian products in terms of technical standards. At the same time, the domestic aviation model has been borrowed from the beginning, and the management system and standards are also different from the mainstream Western standards in the world today. This difference also affects the modernization of China's aviation industry to a certain extent. .
(Rida 7000 is the exclusive power of the A330neo passenger aircraft) (Rida 7000 is the exclusive power of the A330neo passenger aircraft)

The reason why China launched a large-scale plan for civil aircraft specialization and aviation development at the beginning of this century is that the well-funded and relatively perfect industrial foundation is of course the most important prerequisite. The Chinese aviation aviation industry is also very important to learn and draw on Western technical standards. of. The introduction of Rolls-Royce engine production line management experience and standards can accelerate the development of China Airlines. In this case, even if Luo Luo does not transfer the technology, we have to earn. (Author's signature: sharp blade military blade / CX)
 
Chinese will soon be exporting not only airliner and also jet engines, GE RR etc all know that their days are numbered. All struggling to make their last bugs by shifting productions to China ASAP. Can not beat Chinese then join them!
 
C929 is a copy of a320 being assembled in tianjin. The cockpit instrumentation and where its located is similar. Only problem is c929 is slightly heavier, so there could be a fuel penalty for operators.
Currently GE turbines are made under license in china, but not the latest model. Its for power generation using either coal or gas.
 
IATA should never approve Chinese aircraft and engines
 
C929 is a copy of a320 being assembled in tianjin. The cockpit instrumentation and where its located is similar. Only problem is c929 is slightly heavier, so there could be a fuel penalty for operators.
Currently GE turbines are made under license in china, but not the latest model. Its for power generation using either coal or gas.
Is the C919.
 
IATA should never approve Chinese aircraft and engines


China is the new superpower and new authority that REPLACED EVERYONE ELSE. They control EVERYTHING, and obliged to NO ONE ELSE.
 
All stand a side .... India will dominate the sky in the Future. China is getting old, youth is on our side. The West is also aging and stagnant. The future looks good for India. Go India.
 
All stand a side .... India will dominate the sky in the Future. China is getting old, youth is on our side. The West is also aging and stagnant. The future looks good for India. Go India.

ABNN Neh only cause ALL Planes to fall off sky non-stop. Regardless they bought from where, they will cause planes to fall off sky. If they made their own it is worst. LCA jet rejected to use Made In India engines also, IAF reject LAC also. If you are Ah Neh you better know their Mustafa problems.
 
Indians are not interested in low tech jobs.

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