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She's not my clone. More than a decade of forumming, I'm open ID and never clone. Don't scare newbies away.
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Re: N.Korea builds 'shrine' to leader's likely successor
The stage management of the grief for Kim Jong-il
A foreign aid worker in North Korea has given the first eyewitness account describing scenes of mass 'stage managed' grief for the country's late 'Dear Leader' Kim Jong-il, who died last weekend.
North Koreans react as they make a call of condolence for deceased leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang Photo: REUTERS
By Dean Nelson
2:30PM GMT 23 Dec 2011
Since his death was announced by an emotional television announcer on Monday, several million North Koreans have gathered in front of portraits of the world's last true Communist dictator to weep and wail in an outpouring which state media said was "rocking Heaven and Earth." Some have flailed on the floor, beating the ground.
Officials who defected fled to South Korea told The Daily Telegraph earlier this week they had themselves taken part in stage managed shows of support for Kim Jong-il, and helped organise mass mourning for his father, Kim Il-sung, who died in 1994.
Much of the grief for respected Kim Il-sung was genuine, but his son and heir, was regarded as a reclusive, feared leader, and former officials say they have no doubt the scenes of chest-beating grief seen on television earlier this week were organised by Communist party cadres.
The foreign aid worker, in an interview with the Agence France Presse (AFP) news agency, appears to be the first eyewitness account detailing the extent to which the event is stage managed and controlled, rather than a natural outpouring of genuine grief.
"When we visited, it was surreal. Ten thousand North Koreans waiting in queues to pay their respects, coming to the front in groups of 100, bowing down and crying.
"All combined with flood lights, strong icy winds and melancholic music and voices from loudspeakers. Everything, meanwhile, being well documented by about 20 photographers and 10 TV camera teams," he said.
But by Friday morning one of the main mourning sites, at a monument to Kim Il-sung, was deserted. He and his colleagues had expected to lay flowers at the monument in Kim Il-sung Square, the focus of the mourning, on behalf of his organisation but when they arrived government officials said his own employees had already laid a giant wreath – identical to many others – bearing the slogan:
"The Great Leader Comrade Kim Jong-il will live eternally" which it attributed to the agency. "It was very awkward. Let's see what our organisation says about that," he said.
His aid workers were then asked to place the wreath in front of an image of the late 'Dear Leader' while being photographed by state media. Analysts said some of the grief on display was by state officials who have benefited from Kim's brutal 17 year regime while others were acting out of fear.
The stage management will culminate in the state funeral next week, when few foreigners are expected to attend. One colourful exception could be the Japanese magician 'Princess Tenko' who was reported to have performed for the late dictator in 1998 and 2000 and enjoyed several private dinners with him.
South Korea's former first lady Lee Hee-ho, the widow of late President Kim Dae-jung, has been given permission to attend in acknowledgement of the 'sunshine policy' of reconciliation her late husband pursued.
A foreign aid worker in North Korea has given the first eyewitness account describing scenes of mass 'stage managed' grief for the country's late 'Dear Leader' Kim Jong-il, who died last weekend.
North Koreans react as they make a call of condolence for deceased leader Kim Jong-il in Pyongyang Photo: REUTERS
By Dean Nelson
2:30PM GMT 23 Dec 2011
Since his death was announced by an emotional television announcer on Monday, several million North Koreans have gathered in front of portraits of the world's last true Communist dictator to weep and wail in an outpouring which state media said was "rocking Heaven and Earth." Some have flailed on the floor, beating the ground.
Officials who defected fled to South Korea told The Daily Telegraph earlier this week they had themselves taken part in stage managed shows of support for Kim Jong-il, and helped organise mass mourning for his father, Kim Il-sung, who died in 1994.
Much of the grief for respected Kim Il-sung was genuine, but his son and heir, was regarded as a reclusive, feared leader, and former officials say they have no doubt the scenes of chest-beating grief seen on television earlier this week were organised by Communist party cadres.
The foreign aid worker, in an interview with the Agence France Presse (AFP) news agency, appears to be the first eyewitness account detailing the extent to which the event is stage managed and controlled, rather than a natural outpouring of genuine grief.
"When we visited, it was surreal. Ten thousand North Koreans waiting in queues to pay their respects, coming to the front in groups of 100, bowing down and crying.
"All combined with flood lights, strong icy winds and melancholic music and voices from loudspeakers. Everything, meanwhile, being well documented by about 20 photographers and 10 TV camera teams," he said.
But by Friday morning one of the main mourning sites, at a monument to Kim Il-sung, was deserted. He and his colleagues had expected to lay flowers at the monument in Kim Il-sung Square, the focus of the mourning, on behalf of his organisation but when they arrived government officials said his own employees had already laid a giant wreath – identical to many others – bearing the slogan:
"The Great Leader Comrade Kim Jong-il will live eternally" which it attributed to the agency. "It was very awkward. Let's see what our organisation says about that," he said.
His aid workers were then asked to place the wreath in front of an image of the late 'Dear Leader' while being photographed by state media. Analysts said some of the grief on display was by state officials who have benefited from Kim's brutal 17 year regime while others were acting out of fear.
The stage management will culminate in the state funeral next week, when few foreigners are expected to attend. One colourful exception could be the Japanese magician 'Princess Tenko' who was reported to have performed for the late dictator in 1998 and 2000 and enjoyed several private dinners with him.
South Korea's former first lady Lee Hee-ho, the widow of late President Kim Dae-jung, has been given permission to attend in acknowledgement of the 'sunshine policy' of reconciliation her late husband pursued.
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Re: N.Korea builds 'shrine' to leader's likely successor
Kim Jong Un named 'supreme commander' of North Korea
North Korea has named Kim Jong Il's son as "supreme commander", as the campaign to install the young man as the next leader of the socialist nation sped up one week after his father's death.
North Korean TV shows Kim Jong-Un, son of the late Kim Jong-Il, weeping (AFP/GETTY)
1:15PM GMT 24 Dec 2011
As the grieving continued for Kim Jong Il, state media also emphasized successor Kim Jong Un's bloodline and legacy in carrying out the Kim family claim to lead and protect the North Korean people.
Kim Jong Un, who is in his late 20s and was unveiled last year as his father's choice as successor, will be the third generation Kim to rule the country since its inception in 1948.
The call to rally behind Kim Jong Un, dubbed the "Great Successor" the day his father's death from a heart attack was announced, comes amid a dramatic show of grief across North Korea.
The country is to remain in an official state of mourning until after Kim's funeral Wednesday and a memorial Thursday.
Footage from Associated Press Television News in the capital, Pyongyang, showed a throng of North Koreans climbing stairs and placing flowers below a portrait of Kim Jong Il. They placed wreaths neatly in a row as solemn music filled the air, and young uniformed soldiers, their heads shaved, bowed to the portrait with their eyes closed.
For days, life in Pyongyang had come to a standstill, with shops and restaurants closed. Downtown Koryo Hotel, one of several in Pyongyang catering to foreigners, was nearly empty. But there are signs that the country is beginning to move on.
"Streets, buses and the metro are all crowded with people going to their work. They are not giving way simply to sorrow," the Korean Central News Agency said of Pyongyang. "They are getting over the demise of their leader, promoted by a strong will to closely rally around respected Comrade Kim Jong Un."
North Korea was founded in 1948 by Kim Il Sung, the country's first and only president. He retains the title of "eternal president" long after his death in 1994. His son, Kim Jong Il, ruled as chairman of the National Defense Commission, supreme commander of the Korean People's Army and general secretary of the Workers' Party.
Kim Jong Un was promoted to four-star general and appointed a vice chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Workers' Party in September 2010. He had been expected to assume a number of other key posts while being groomed to succeed his father.
In South Korea, huge balloons were sent across the border loaded with socks - a humanitarian gesture as North Koreans grapple with cold weather and shortages of fuel and heat. South Korean activists routinely send similar balloons containing anti-Pyongyang leaflets.
Citizens in Pyongyang, meanwhile, received a special gift from the late Kim Jong Il: loads of fish. State-run media said Kim was worried about the supply of fish in Pyongyang and had looked into the matter the day before he died.
Kim Jong Un named 'supreme commander' of North Korea
North Korea has named Kim Jong Il's son as "supreme commander", as the campaign to install the young man as the next leader of the socialist nation sped up one week after his father's death.
North Korean TV shows Kim Jong-Un, son of the late Kim Jong-Il, weeping (AFP/GETTY)
1:15PM GMT 24 Dec 2011
As the grieving continued for Kim Jong Il, state media also emphasized successor Kim Jong Un's bloodline and legacy in carrying out the Kim family claim to lead and protect the North Korean people.
Kim Jong Un, who is in his late 20s and was unveiled last year as his father's choice as successor, will be the third generation Kim to rule the country since its inception in 1948.
The call to rally behind Kim Jong Un, dubbed the "Great Successor" the day his father's death from a heart attack was announced, comes amid a dramatic show of grief across North Korea.
The country is to remain in an official state of mourning until after Kim's funeral Wednesday and a memorial Thursday.
Footage from Associated Press Television News in the capital, Pyongyang, showed a throng of North Koreans climbing stairs and placing flowers below a portrait of Kim Jong Il. They placed wreaths neatly in a row as solemn music filled the air, and young uniformed soldiers, their heads shaved, bowed to the portrait with their eyes closed.
For days, life in Pyongyang had come to a standstill, with shops and restaurants closed. Downtown Koryo Hotel, one of several in Pyongyang catering to foreigners, was nearly empty. But there are signs that the country is beginning to move on.
"Streets, buses and the metro are all crowded with people going to their work. They are not giving way simply to sorrow," the Korean Central News Agency said of Pyongyang. "They are getting over the demise of their leader, promoted by a strong will to closely rally around respected Comrade Kim Jong Un."
North Korea was founded in 1948 by Kim Il Sung, the country's first and only president. He retains the title of "eternal president" long after his death in 1994. His son, Kim Jong Il, ruled as chairman of the National Defense Commission, supreme commander of the Korean People's Army and general secretary of the Workers' Party.
Kim Jong Un was promoted to four-star general and appointed a vice chairman of the Central Military Commission of the Workers' Party in September 2010. He had been expected to assume a number of other key posts while being groomed to succeed his father.
In South Korea, huge balloons were sent across the border loaded with socks - a humanitarian gesture as North Koreans grapple with cold weather and shortages of fuel and heat. South Korean activists routinely send similar balloons containing anti-Pyongyang leaflets.
Citizens in Pyongyang, meanwhile, received a special gift from the late Kim Jong Il: loads of fish. State-run media said Kim was worried about the supply of fish in Pyongyang and had looked into the matter the day before he died.
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Nothing To Envy: Ordinary Lives in North Korea, Barbara Demick wrote, referring to Kim Il-sung's death in 1994: "The histrionics of grief took on a competitive quality. Who could weep the loudest?"
One young student in Pyongyang felt nothing as all around him were wailing, she noted. "His entire future depended on his ability to cry. Not just his career and his membership in the Workers' Party, his very survival was at stake. It was a matter of life and death."
He was saved, she wrote, by holding his eyelids open and his eyeballs exposed until they burned and began to tear up. Once they started, he began sobbing like everyone else.
aiyoh
if cannot pretend to grief, but must grief to survive, use pepper spray on own eyes. It is like arms wars, everyone compete to grief the hardest, but no one there already care about him.
One young student in Pyongyang felt nothing as all around him were wailing, she noted. "His entire future depended on his ability to cry. Not just his career and his membership in the Workers' Party, his very survival was at stake. It was a matter of life and death."
He was saved, she wrote, by holding his eyelids open and his eyeballs exposed until they burned and began to tear up. Once they started, he began sobbing like everyone else.
aiyoh
if cannot pretend to grief, but must grief to survive, use pepper spray on own eyes. It is like arms wars, everyone compete to grief the hardest, but no one there already care about him.
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North Korea to begin two-day Kim Jong-il memorial Kim Jong-il has been lying in state since his death on 17 December
North Korea is to begin two days of funeral services for its late leader Kim Jong-il, with hundreds of thousands expected to attend in Pyongyang.
Few details are known and there will be no foreign delegations but a procession is expected on Wednesday, echoing that for Kim's father, Kim Il-sung, in 1994.
As then, the funeral is expected to be used to cement the succession of new leader Kim Jong-un.
Kim Jong-il died of a heart attack on 17 December, aged 69, state media said.
He has been lying in state since then.
'Memorial service'
If the funeral does mirror 1994, there will be much pomp and military might, with tens of thousands of weeping North Koreans.
Kim Jong-il was not in the funeral motorcade for his father's death and observers will be watching to see how prominent a role Kim Jong-un - who is Mr Kim's third son - plays.
Kim Jong-un's name is first in the list of members of the "national funeral committee" published by the main North Korean news agency, and the funeral committee did take part in Kim Il-sung's funeral.
Kim Jong-il's two other sons are not members of the committee and have not been seen during the mourning period.
South Korean media have suggested a start time of about 01:00 GMT, with a 24-gun military salute followed by a march of troops through the centre of the capital.
There will probably be a large photograph of the late leader, smiling, on prominent display.
Citizens will line the streets, with many of the women in traditional black dresses.
There have been many images of distraught citizens released by state media since the death. Early on Wednesday it broadcast more footage of weeping mourners paying their respects to Kim Jong-il.
Thursday is expected to feature a three-minute silence at noon local time, followed by trains and ships sounding horns.
The national memorial service will then begin.
State media have portrayed Kim Jong-un as leader since his father's death. He is thought to be in his late 20s and has very little political experience.
Kim Jong-il was in the process of formalising him as his successor when he died but the transition was not complete, leaving regional neighbours fearful of a power struggle in the nuclear-armed pariah state.
The Rodong Sinmun newspaper has described Kim Jong-un as the head of the Workers' Party Central Committee, meaning that he now controls one of the country's highest decision-making bodies.
The newspaper earlier gave him the title of "supreme commander" of the armed forces.
Analysts say he will be surrounded by a group of experienced military insiders and relatives, as the Pyongyang elite attempts to hold on to power.
North Korea is to begin two days of funeral services for its late leader Kim Jong-il, with hundreds of thousands expected to attend in Pyongyang.
Few details are known and there will be no foreign delegations but a procession is expected on Wednesday, echoing that for Kim's father, Kim Il-sung, in 1994.
As then, the funeral is expected to be used to cement the succession of new leader Kim Jong-un.
Kim Jong-il died of a heart attack on 17 December, aged 69, state media said.
He has been lying in state since then.
'Memorial service'
If the funeral does mirror 1994, there will be much pomp and military might, with tens of thousands of weeping North Koreans.
Kim Jong-il was not in the funeral motorcade for his father's death and observers will be watching to see how prominent a role Kim Jong-un - who is Mr Kim's third son - plays.
Kim Jong-un's name is first in the list of members of the "national funeral committee" published by the main North Korean news agency, and the funeral committee did take part in Kim Il-sung's funeral.
Kim Jong-il's two other sons are not members of the committee and have not been seen during the mourning period.
South Korean media have suggested a start time of about 01:00 GMT, with a 24-gun military salute followed by a march of troops through the centre of the capital.
There will probably be a large photograph of the late leader, smiling, on prominent display.
Citizens will line the streets, with many of the women in traditional black dresses.
There have been many images of distraught citizens released by state media since the death. Early on Wednesday it broadcast more footage of weeping mourners paying their respects to Kim Jong-il.
Thursday is expected to feature a three-minute silence at noon local time, followed by trains and ships sounding horns.
The national memorial service will then begin.
State media have portrayed Kim Jong-un as leader since his father's death. He is thought to be in his late 20s and has very little political experience.
Kim Jong-il was in the process of formalising him as his successor when he died but the transition was not complete, leaving regional neighbours fearful of a power struggle in the nuclear-armed pariah state.
The Rodong Sinmun newspaper has described Kim Jong-un as the head of the Workers' Party Central Committee, meaning that he now controls one of the country's highest decision-making bodies.
The newspaper earlier gave him the title of "supreme commander" of the armed forces.
Analysts say he will be surrounded by a group of experienced military insiders and relatives, as the Pyongyang elite attempts to hold on to power.
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This ceremony is an important event for North Korea to cement the authority of its next leader - a man not yet 30 and with little experience of government.
But it is also a rare opportunity for those outside the country to glimpse the internal power structure of the Communist state.
Many of the country's key positions are still held by a coterie of men and women around its former leader - senior military and party officials who may well now be jostling for influence in the new regime.
And some say North Korea's reluctance to open up the funeral ceremony to foreign delegations may signal that those hierarchies have not yet been fully agreed
you mean pap did not send a delegation to north korea??? why not.
But it is also a rare opportunity for those outside the country to glimpse the internal power structure of the Communist state.
Many of the country's key positions are still held by a coterie of men and women around its former leader - senior military and party officials who may well now be jostling for influence in the new regime.
And some say North Korea's reluctance to open up the funeral ceremony to foreign delegations may signal that those hierarchies have not yet been fully agreed
you mean pap did not send a delegation to north korea??? why not.
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for sure, the hierarchy is not settled and there will be vultures circling.
the real boss is actually known, the uncle or something. The young Kim is now a puppet. But it won't be long before he grow sufficient pubic hair to take over and remove the uncle.
I guess, he will still look upon China for tacit approval before doing anything rash. He needs China for economic aid and "guidance"
the real boss is actually known, the uncle or something. The young Kim is now a puppet. But it won't be long before he grow sufficient pubic hair to take over and remove the uncle.
I guess, he will still look upon China for tacit approval before doing anything rash. He needs China for economic aid and "guidance"
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you see how fucked up NK is , they run the country until their people wanna leave. risking their lives.
same as sinkieland, the PAP run the country until people wanna emigrate to australia, USA, and other real first world country, some to thailand. Fuck up sinkieland.
same as sinkieland, the PAP run the country until people wanna emigrate to australia, USA, and other real first world country, some to thailand. Fuck up sinkieland.
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There is no god. Even if such an entity exists, it is unworthy of worship.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/12/25/north-korea-versus-the-united-states-who-are-the-demons/
God still undecided on who are the real demon-the US or NK or both.
God still undecided on who are the real demon-the US or NK or both.
Re: Kim Jong-il: the life and times of the leader of North Korea
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The Great Escape - North Korea
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Up to 300,000 North Koreans may have fled to China, only to find their poverty and persecution continues. Secret filming reveals the plight of these refugees as they then try to flee to the West.
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Total brainwash to the people...
It is because of the leader we are more united and stronger than the nuclear bomb
The mother who is blind hope to regain her sight to see her leader.
They even bowed down to the photo of the leader in their home.
They while life revolved around the leader.
BUT STILL..
Much better than the sinkies who bend down and let their govt screwed without fighting back. At least the NK knows how to fight back when they are bullied, sinkies just bend down and let their leaders screwed.
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Total brainwash to the people...
It is because of the leader we are more united and stronger than the nuclear bomb
The mother who is blind hope to regain her sight to see her leader.
They even bowed down to the photo of the leader in their home.
They while life revolved around the leader.
BUT STILL..
Much better than the sinkies who bend down and let their govt screwed without fighting back. At least the NK knows how to fight back when they are bullied, sinkies just bend down and let their leaders screwed.
The young Kim is now a puppet. But it won't be long before he grow sufficient pubic hair to take over and remove the uncle.
The uncle and aunt are like SM and MM same like certain country where we have 'the father, the son and the holy goh'.
The uncle and aunt are like SM and MM same like certain country where we have 'the father, the son and the holy goh'.
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