Nokia big crisis

[mayliewwan]

Those who remember Wang are old enough to remember Commodore Vic 20 or Osborne or Decwriter??? Still remember waiting to use Decwriter?? and the best time was night time (at UofA)

Doubt anyone is old enough to remembers the Wang brand

A better example is the more recent DEC(Digital Equipment) which was a very big company. Many in Spore must remember them as they had many offices in Spore offering their expensive services & computers.

Or anyone still remember Compaq which at one time was a large computer brand but now owned by HP?

When you consider that Apple is one of the old guys of the computer age & still doing so well, its pretty amazing

 

[RK85]

I remember DEC. My 1st job working there in the 90s. Factory was in AMK Ind. Park 2. Got facilities like tennis courts, squash courts, gym ,etc. 2nd biggest computer maker behing IBM. Nice company, nice working environment.

Doubt anyone is old enough to remembers the Wang brand

A better example is the more recent DEC(Digital Equipment) which was a very big company. Many in Spore must remember them as they had many offices in Spore offering their expensive services & computers.

Or anyone still remember Compaq which at one time was a large computer brand but now owned by HP?

When you consider that Apple is one of the old guys of the computer age & still doing so well, its pretty amazing

 

[singveld]

Ah, nokia have themselves to blame, apple announce the iphone in 2007, so they have from then to produce a competition. I guess they underestimate apple.

But nokia phone has one advantage, light and battery last very long. I like that too.

 

[johnny333]

Those who remember Wang are old enough to remember Commodore Vic 20 or Osborne or Decwriter??? Still remember waiting to use Decwriter?? and the best time was night time (at UofA)

Ahh, who can forget the Amdahl & MTS(Michigan Terminal System)
The Command based operating systems like MTS are of course dated by todays standard.


Those Decwriters were quite slow. However seasoned users graduated to the AJ terminals & the magic of visual editing. Spent thousands of hours learning to program in Pascal, Fortran, APL & Assembler.

I actually bought a second hand commodore 64 & apple II clone to see what it was about while I was there. Followed by my first Macs from the Uni bookstore.

Remember many a sleepless night burning the midnight oil trying to complete assignments.

How time flies :(

 

[johnny333]

I remember DEC. My 1st job working there in the 90s. Factory was in AMK Ind. Park 2. Got facilities like tennis courts, squash courts, gym ,etc. 2nd biggest computer maker behing IBM. Nice company, nice working environment.

I was also working for an IT company that was located in AMK ind Park 2, our neighbour was making pagers.

Used alot of DEC equipment running a system called TOLAS

Before my time, the company had a squash court, weight training room, tennis courts , nice working working conditions. They did away with all those perks :( The squash courts were converted into office space. The tennis courts made way for a new building.

I suspect we are talking about the same company

 

[Glaringly]

It's a shame right. DEC is seen as the leader both in computer software and hardware back in the 80s. Until Ken Olson the technical founder is replaced with a marketing guy and the rest is history.

Forget Unix... VMS to me is still the number 1 OS. Not to forget it's cluster technology and the first to runs on 64 bit chips.

And long before SammyBoy Forum... or even before Alta Vista Netscape... they have a product call "Notes", which is among the first forum software or is it the first!

Btw, I thought DECWriter is a printer?

I was also working for an IT company that was located in AMK ind Park 2, our neighbour was making pagers.

Used alot of DEC equipment running a system called TOLAS

Before my time, the company had a squash court, weight training room, tennis courts , nice working working conditions. They did away with all those perks :( The squash courts were converted into office space. The tennis courts made way for a new building.

I suspect we are talking about the same company

 

[johnny333]

I always tell people that Apple is the last "traditional" computer brand that offers a full package from Hardware to Software. It used to be every other Tom, Dick and Harry computer brand does that, till Microsoft came along.

In todays market it's the innovators that can distinguish itself from their competitors. Apple is a HW & SW company and there aren't any other company like that .That's why other companies are having problems competing against Apple. Most of the Japanese & Taiwanese competition are good HW companies but they lack the SW expertise.

In the early days Compaq could survive because their hardware were engineered better than the competition. When PCs became generic boxes, there was few reasons to pay a premium for the Compaq name.

Companies like Dell introduced super cheap machines. They competed based on price. From what I heard not many people survived for long at Dell. If you can survive for 1 year that is damn good

DEC died because they paid their employees too much. Good if you work for DEC but bad if you were their customer.They were the PAP of the IT industry

 

[johnny333]

It's a shame right. DEC is seen as the leader both in computer software and hardware back in the 80s. Until Ken Olson the technical founder is replaced with a marketing guy and the rest is history.

Forget Unix... VMS to me is still the number 1 OS. Not to forget it's cluster technology and the first to runs on 64 bit chips.

And long before SammyBoy Forum... or even before Alta Vista Netscape... they have a product call "Notes", which is among the first forum software or is it the first!

Btw, I thought DECWriter is a printer?

The VMS OS was an irritating system. I remember the OS would force one to change your password periodically & its smart enough not to accept minor changes. Just imagine trying to remember all those passwords :o


DECwriter was a terminal, instead of outputting to a terminal screen it would print to paper. Good for programmers because you had a hard copy to debug but it can be slow because sometimes you don't need a hardcopy

 

[RK85]

I suspect u are right.

I was also working for an IT company that was located in AMK ind Park 2, our neighbour was making pagers.

Used alot of DEC equipment running a system called TOLAS

Before my time, the company had a squash court, weight training room, tennis courts , nice working working conditions. They did away with all those perks :( The squash courts were converted into office space. The tennis courts made way for a new building.

I suspect we are talking about the same company

 

[gbomega]

Nokia announces E7, C7 and C6-01 Symbian^3 smartphones

Nokia E7 - 4 inch AMOLED touchscreen with nHD resolution and a four row slide-out QWERTY keyboard and HDMI output. It's got high-end connectivity - 10.2Mbps HSDPA, 2Mbps HSUPA, Wi-Fi b/g/n, Bluetooth 3.0, A-GPS and Cell-ID positioning along with USB On-The-Go (USB OTG, allows for devices that generally fulfill the role of being a slave USB device to a USB host. Cell-ID, mobile phone tracking). The Nokia N7 is expected to retail at 637 USD

Nokia C7 - stainless steel @ just 10.5 mm thin. It has an 8MP camera with dual-LED flash and 720p video, and the same excellent connectivity features as the E7, except the HDMI - it relies on the more traditional composite video-out instead. The nokia C7 comes with a 3.5" AMOLED screen with nHD resolution and 8GB of built-in memory. But unlike the E7, the C7 memory is expandable through the microSD card slot. (SRP 430USD)

Nokia C6-01 boasts the same camera and connectivity features as the C7 (sans TV-out) and its 8GB built-in memory is extended by a 2GB microSD card in the box. It too has a stainless steel body though it's quite a bit thicker than the C7 - 13.9 mm.

iPhone 4 retina display compared to Nokia C7 Clear Black Display (AMOLED)

The main spot light and flagship device N9 will run on MeeGo OS when release next year.

 

[Alamaking]

Symbian again?

Another nail in the coffin for Nokia, LOL

 

[gbomega]

Symbian^3 - for mid-end and Meego for hi-end. Symbian will retire slowly for low end hahaha...

 

[motormafia]

Re: Nokia big crisis - founder chairman is leaving now - LKY?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/sep/14/nokia-chairman-ollia-departing


Nokia chairman announces readiness to depart as turmoil at top grows

Former chief executive Jorma Ollia suggests he will leave by 2012 amid management changes at top of mobile phone giant

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Mobile phones at Nokia HQ in Finland, one of the countries where users' health is to be tracked Mobile phones at Nokia HQ in Finland. Photograph: Kimmo Mantyla/AFP/Getty Images

The turmoil at the top of Nokia has continued for a third day, with the company saying on Tuesday that its chairman and former chief executive Jorma Ollia is to step down - though not until 2012.

The Finnish company, the biggest seller of mobile phones in the world, ejected its chief executive Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo on Friday, and then lost its head of mobile, Anssi Vanjoki, on Monday when he resigned, apparently disappointed at the appointment of Stephen Elop, formerly at Microsoft, to the role of chief executive.

A Nokia spokeswoman said that while no definitive announcement had been made about Ollia's post, he has said he would be "at the disposal of the company" until the annual general meeting of the company in spring 2012.

Last Friday Ollila said the board had asked him to stay on as chairman for a transitionary period. "The board did want me to continue because this is a particularly difficult time. My time will be up soonest," he said then, but added, "no time set."

Nokia's announcement on Friday came after its stock had continued its plunge: it is down more than 20% this year following two profit warnings, while the company's management had come under increasing pressure.

On Tuesday, the company presented new telephones and applications for its handsets, hoping to get back into the high-end smart phone race.

"Today our fight back to smart phone leadership shifts into high gear," said Niklas Savander, executive vice president of Nokia's markets unit said at the Nokia World event in London. "Despite new competition, Symbian remains the most widely used smart phone platform in the world."

The company unveiled three new smart phones the C6, C7 and E7 with price tags ranging from 260 to 495.

But markets were not impressed, and Nokia stock closed down more than 3% in Helsinki at 7.64 ($9.82).

Vanjoki is a board member, and in charge of the top-end mobile smartphones, an area Nokia is keen on improving as it tries to rival Apple's iPhone and Research In Motion Ltd.'s BlackBerrys, and phones built around Google Inc.'s Android software.

Vanjoki will remain for a six-month notice period, Nokia said. Vanjoki, who joined Nokia 20 years ago and has been a board member since 1998, said on Monday he felt "the time has come to seek new opportunities in my life."

He had previously been seen as a potential successor to outgoing Kallasvuo but drifted away from the top management when the company reshuffled responsibilities earlier this year and Mary McDowell was appointed top chief of the mobile phones business.

During Kallasvuo's leadership investors had long been expecting something fresh and new from the company that once had the innovative edge in the industry, but that has not happened. He has also been unable to tackle problems in the North American market, the company's worst performer, despite a pledge to make it a top priority.

Markets have also not been impressed by Symbian, which is older than Apple's software and wasn't designed from the ground up for touchscreen phones. Other manufacturers that had used Symbian have mainly jumped ship to Android.

 

[johnny333]

Re: Nokia big crisis - founder chairman is leaving now - LKY?

Markets have also not been impressed by Symbian, which is older than Apple's software and wasn't designed from the ground up for touchscreen phones. Other manufacturers that had used Symbian have mainly jumped ship to Android.

Maybe Nokia should have bought Palm


They apparently need a new OS more than HP

 

[hotbot]

you shld try blackberry os, piece of crap.

at least symbian boot faster.

Symbian again?

Another nail in the coffin for Nokia, LOL

 

[gbomega]

Consumer wants a touch screen. Meego, bulit for touch screen from ground up is coming next year. Symbian is not for built for Touch screen and Nokia wants to taker short cut by altering from the existing. This lead to miserable failure and the boss must pay its price and be sacked.