National Library's version of 'OWE MONEY PAY MONEY'?

[char_jig_kar]

National Library's version of 'OWE MONEY PAY MONEY'?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/417856/1/.html

No borrowing for library users with outstanding fines
By TODAY | Posted: 26 March 2009 1138 hrs


SINGAPORE: Have you paid your library fines? If not, do so before next Wednesday, when the new rules kick in and anyone with unpaid fines and fees will not be able to borrow books or items until the charges have been paid.

However, the National Library Board (NLB) will make it easier for tardy library users to pay fines in future by placing desktop eKiosks next to the borrowing stations to make such payments easier.

The NLB will also consider waving such arrears — on a case-by-case basis — for those who are in genuine financial hardship. Those who would like to make an appeal should write in to the board, it said.

At the same time, NLB has introduced a free SMS and email alert service for those who need a reminder of when their books and other items are due.

The new polices also include scrapping the current 50-cent fee to renew borrowed items.

Renewals are no longer automatic and all borrowed items can only be renewed before or on the due date.
- TODAY/yb

 

[halsey02]

They new swanky buidling at Bras Basah Rd, needs to be paid...anyway, most of the library users these days are those out of work, neurotics ( bicycle chainers), children & housewives who in the morning, no where to bring their to play.

 

[jw5]

I find it perfectly acceptable that those who owe fines should be made to pay up before they are allowed to borrow again.
In the first place, why do they need to be fined at all?
It's simply "chao kuan".

 

[po2wq]

nothing diff fr nt paying ur utilities, singtel, incum tax ... bills wat ...

 

[char_jig_kar]

nothing diff fr nt paying ur utilities, singtel, incum tax ... bills wat ...

5 cent in arrear, u cant borrow books liao. utilities bill got like that meh?

 

[char_jig_kar]

I find it perfectly acceptable that those who owe fines should be made to pay up before they are allowed to borrow again.
In the first place, why do they need to be fined at all?
It's simply "chao kuan".

even its 5 cent in arrear, one cant borrow books liao. don't u think thats too 'geh gao' (calculative)?

 

[Zombie]

even its 5 cent in arrear, one cant borrow books liao. don't u think thats too 'geh gao' (calculative)?

now renew each book no need 50cts,
imagine you can extend 4 books at one time and still keep your $2

should be happy lah..

 

[tiulehloudau]

even its 5 cent in arrear, one cant borrow books liao. don't u think thats too 'geh gao' (calculative)?

Hey asshole, pay for them lah if you have big hole (tua kang)....... kaupeh si mi.......

Giving me infraction when I assed you brother royston46.........poor fellow.....asshole still sore by me is it........:oIo::oIo:

 

[jw5]

even its 5 cent in arrear, one cant borrow books liao. don't u think thats too 'geh gao' (calculative)?

Not at all.
Why should a person owe a few cents fine and still expect to be able to borrow books? Why can't he pay of the few cents fine?
Let's say a person owes some fines and has migrated. Ok, he may not have to pay the fine, but he wouldn't be able to borrow any more books. He wouldn't want to anyway.
But if he wants to continue borrowing books, why can't he pay off the fine, even if it's a few cents?

 

[cass888]

Actually I agree with the other forumers (surprise surprise) here. There should be minimum fine accumulated before the ban is imposed. If the current treshhold of $6 is too high, it can always be reduced to, say, $1. But to have to queue up to pay $0.15 is simply ridiculous.

Not at all.
Why should a person owe a few cents fine and still expect to be able to borrow books? Why can't he pay of the few cents fine?
Let's say a person owes some fines and has migrated. Ok, he may not have to pay the fine, but he wouldn't be able to borrow any more books. He wouldn't want to anyway.
But if he wants to continue borrowing books, why can't he pay off the fine, even if it's a few cents?

 

[po2wq]

even its 5 cent in arrear, one cant borrow books liao. don't u think thats too 'geh gao' (calculative)?

if all members oso owe 5 ¢, how? ...

if say gt 200,000 members, dat wud b 1,000,000 ¢ wor! ... lidat how 2 get 8 mths bonus? ...

 

[char_jig_kar]

if all members oso owe 5 ¢, how? ...

if say gt 200,000 members, dat wud b 1,000,000 ¢ wor! ... lidat how 2 get 8 mths bonus? ...

library job is to make money ah? i tot their job is to serve the taxpayer? but u are right in a way... if they don't li dat hor, how will they get 8 months bonus??

 

[cass888]

if all members oso owe 5 ¢, how? ...

if say gt 200,000 members, dat wud b 1,000,000 ¢ wor! ... lidat how 2 get 8 mths bonus? ...

To put it in perspective, that is only $10,000. No big deal at all. NLB probably lose more by cancelling renewal fee. I think they have a KPI called "Percentage of fees/fines collected" so they scrap the renewal fee and disallow borrowing until fines are paid.

 

[Dogtracker]

Not at all.
Why should a person owe a few cents fine and still expect to be able to borrow books? Why can't he pay of the few cents fine?
Let's say a person owes some fines and has migrated. Ok, he may not have to pay the fine, but he wouldn't be able to borrow any more books. He wouldn't want to anyway.
But if he wants to continue borrowing books, why can't he pay off the fine, even if it's a few cents?

Bro, are you aware that you cannot pay with cash? It must be transacted via Nets or EZ and other E payment gizmos!

 

[cleareyes]

Actually I agree with the other forumers (surprise surprise) here. There should be minimum fine accumulated before the ban is imposed. If the current treshhold of $6 is too high, it can always be reduced to, say, $1. But to have to queue up to pay $0.15 is simply ridiculous.

NLB does impose a treshold in how much arresr one can owe and that is up to a max of $5 bucks and anything more you cant barrow anymore.

but with the new rules, it seems too many people had tried to play with the rules and NLB is also running short on funds.

Guess they just had to be strict but not too strict.

 

[jw5]

Actually I agree with the other forumers (surprise surprise) here. There should be minimum fine accumulated before the ban is imposed. If the current treshhold of $6 is too high, it can always be reduced to, say, $1. But to have to queue up to pay $0.15 is simply ridiculous.

It's ok to have a limit or threshold, but you can bet that there will be many always keeping just below the threshold, as if it was some form of rolling credit or interest free overdraft or something like that. Humans are crappy.
I still don't see why people can't pay off their fines, even if its 10 cents.
There are automated machines in every library, even the neighbourhood ones and there is hardly any queue even on weekends.

 

[jw5]

Bro, are you aware that you cannot pay with cash? It must be transacted via Nets or EZ and other E payment gizmos!

Almost everyone has either a ez link card (for taking public transport) or a cashcard (for erp).
I don't see the problem.