My Friend Jocelyn

[TracyTan866]

I am not qualified. I cannot provide them with they desire.

liking thme doesnt mean you need to have them

 

[TracyTan866]

Still, don't mind me saying, you are pretty privileged now.

yes, I am...and I am thankful. must be able to move on and seize all opportunities despite set-backs

 

[TracyTan866]

So you think it is the guy who initiates it. I beg to differ. I believe a lot of the time it is the woman who seduces and pulls the man in. The man is, of course, and being a man of high standing has a lot of confidence but what he wants is just short flings, maybe a one night stand. Definitely on his own violation he would not wish to develop a relationship that will wreck his family. Without the push from the woman he will not do it.

I agree with you. a proactive gal gets her man

 

[TracyTan866]

So you think it is the guy who initiates it. I beg to differ. I believe a lot of the time it is the woman who seduces and pulls the man in. The man is, of course, and being a man of high standing has a lot of confidence but what he wants is just short flings, maybe a one night stand. Definitely on his own violation he would not wish to develop a relationship that will wreck his family. Without the push from the woman he will not do it.

many men need a push and encouragement from the gals.

that's why wives must fully satisfy their hubbies so that they lack nothing sexually and are less vulnerable

 

[Ash007]

It takes two hands to clap. I've never have the fortune for girls to seduce me. I've always done the wooing, but if you are well aware of what is going on, you can pull away from it.

So you think it is the guy who initiates it. I beg to differ. I believe a lot of the time it is the woman who seduces and pulls the man in. The man is, of course, and being a man of high standing has a lot of confidence but what he wants is just short flings, maybe a one night stand. Definitely on his own violation he would not wish to develop a relationship that will wreck his family. Without the push from the woman he will not do it.

 

[Fook Seng]

I dont see the gals as leeching. they are in the entertainment line and networking and socialising are part of their business. It's a business deal...willing seller, willing buyer.

I am not referring to entertainment circles where you talked about prized trophies of rich men. The trophies are what they are because of their celebrity status. Not many can play at this level. I am referring to the broader environment, within the same company or between subsidiaries of the same group where the man is the big boss or a top management guy and the lady a junior or middle executive.

I must also add that all these have nothing to do with Jocelyn. We started with Jocelyn's baby which is a domestic decision of emigration, then we moved on to celebrities as prized trophies and the two are not related in any way but the thread naturally led us from one to the other.

Although we have not quite exhausted prized trophies as a topic, the sugar daddies theme in a more mundane office environment seems like a natural progression of our discussion. Within this topic, one forummer tried to raise the issue of sex for contract. I feel that that is only a niche in a wider phenomenon where the only thing between the woman and the sugar daddy is the physical love, the enhanced life-style, the excitement of doing things underground, the reward of climbing up the corporate ladder or perhaps the fulfiment of the need for a father figure, someone who seems to know what to do, always. I feel there are many angles we can look at in
that relationship.

 

[Fook Seng]

The top business guy must be very naive to really think that the gal goes out with him because of love. She accompanied him because he was willing to pay her price for his ego trip

I think for celebrities, most know it is not a real affair, just a business deal. For some, hooking up with a tycoon and eventually becoming his wife or a recognized mistress seems very realistic and there are such examples in the past eg the matriarch of the Lion Group. There was true love involved. But a lot of time, the man does not wish to go that far.

 

[Fook Seng]

many men need a push and encouragement from the gals.

that's why wives must fully satisfy their hubbies so that they lack nothing sexually and are less vulnerable

Now I understand your dedication.

 

[Fook Seng]

liking thme doesnt mean you need to have them

Let's say I am not a fan, as fan club is never a feature of my generation. But observing with admiring eyes, I wouldn't deny.

 

[Fook Seng]

I agree with you. a proactive gal gets her man

The big question is what is the gal's motivation? My belief is it can be quite complex. You being a gal, maybe you could give us some hint what could be going on in that tiny head of such a lady.

 

[Fook Seng]

It takes two hands to clap. I've never have the fortune for girls to seduce me. I've always done the wooing, but if you are well aware of what is going on, you can pull away from it.

Bro, if there are gals trying to seduce you, you have arrived. Let us know when that happens so that we can congratulate you.

 

[Ash007]

yah loh, I also waiting for that day. Though, I did have something similar once.

Bro, if there are gals trying to seduce you, you have arrived. Let us know when that happens so that we can congratulate you.

 

[TracyTan866]

It takes two hands to clap. I've never have the fortune for girls to seduce me. I've always done the wooing, but if you are well aware of what is going on, you can pull away from it.

certainly, two hands clap better. but some gals really know how to woo to get what they want. remember Darinne Ko from Law Faculty, NUS??

 

[TracyTan866]

I am not referring to entertainment circles where you talked about prized trophies of rich men. The trophies are what they are because of their celebrity status. Not many can play at this level. I am referring to the broader environment, within the same company or between subsidiaries of the same group where the man is the big boss or a top management guy and the lady a junior or middle executive.

I must also add that all these have nothing to do with Jocelyn. We started with Jocelyn's baby which is a domestic decision of emigration, then we moved on to celebrities as prized trophies and the two are not related in any way but the thread naturally led us from one to the other.

Although we have not quite exhausted prized trophies as a topic, the sugar daddies theme in a more mundane office environment seems like a natural progression of our discussion. Within this topic, one forummer tried to raise the issue of sex for contract. I feel that that is only a niche in a wider phenomenon where the only thing between the woman and the sugar daddy is the physical love, the enhanced life-style, the excitement of doing things underground, the reward of climbing up the corporate ladder or perhaps the fulfiment of the need for a father figure, someone who seems to know what to do, always. I feel there are many angles we can look at in
that relationship.

gals, power and fetishes are deadly combinations. a man must have great self control, right values and strong character to survive in this jungle of sex and seduction

 

[TracyTan866]

I think for celebrities, most know it is not a real affair, just a business deal. For some, hooking up with a tycoon and eventually becoming his wife or a recognized mistress seems very realistic and there are such examples in the past eg the matriarch of the Lion Group. There was true love involved. But a lot of time, the man does not wish to go that far.

very true...

 

[TracyTan866]

Now I understand your dedication.

i am in this line long enough and have seen many cases to know that the way to a man's heart is to satisfy him fully and completely

 

[Ash007]

certainly, two hands clap better. but some gals really know how to woo to get what they want. remember Darinne Ko from Law Faculty, NUS??

Yes, but the Law professor should have rejected it.

gals, power and fetishes are deadly combinations. a man must have great self control, right values and strong character to survive in this jungle of sex and seduction

I hope I have the will power when it happens to me.

 

[blur sotong]

Whao, Bro Fook Seng, can give other guys a chance please?

Pro-active girls gets her man. Pro-active man may not get his girl. Ha ha ... just joking...

Thanks for all the postings to make this a sort of a broadcasted chat room with Tracy, Ash, Yinyang, IHP and a few others.

Must confess I really enjoy the friendly banter.

Keep it up. Cheers!!

 

[TracyTan866]

Let's say I am not a fan, as fan club is never a feature of my generation. But observing with admiring eyes, I wouldn't deny.

hahahahaha...

 

[Ash007]

I thought the chat room would have been a better avenue. But its a fun thread none the less.

Whao, Bro Fook Seng, can give other guys a chance please?

Pro-active girls gets her man. Pro-active man may not get his girl. Ha ha ... just joking...

Thanks for all the postings to make this a sort of a broadcasted chat room with Tracy, Ash, Yinyang, IHP and a few others.

Must confess I really enjoy the friendly banter.

Keep it up. Cheers!!