Muslim ‘counterterrorism expert’ falsely claims that hadith about Muslims killing Jews applies only to ‘last day’

[JohnTan]

You must be kidding.
You don't even know the difference between the tanakh and old testament.

You must be a retard.
No more defence from you about the lack of islamic manuscripts and your heavily edited quran.

 

[Loofydralb]

You must be a retard.
No more defence from you about the lack of islamic manuscripts and your heavily edited quran.

Can't be bothered to correct you, as the Quran has described you:
Quran 2:6
As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not—they will never believe.

 

[JohnTan]

Can't be bothered to correct you, as the Quran has described you:
Quran 2:6
As for those who persist in disbelief, it is the same whether you warn them or not—they will never believe.

Wrong.
You don't have any evidence to refute the fact that your quran is heavily edited and standardised for the first time barely 100 years ago.

 

[Loofydralb]

Wrong.
You don't have any evidence to refute the fact that your quran is heavily edited and standardised for the first time barely 100 years ago.

You made the claim. So please substantiate it.

 

[JohnTan]

You made the claim. So please substantiate it.

Read our above posts. Claims substantiated.

 

[Loofydralb]

Read our above posts. Claims substantiated.

That is an opinion. Nothing substatiated. No scholarly thesis from a reputable university.

Try harder.

 

[JohnTan]

That is an opinion. Nothing substatiated. No scholarly thesis from a reputable university.

Try harder.

No it isn't. The moslem quran being standardized in 1924 in Egypt due to having too many different versions circulating is a historical fact.

Your 'try harder' crap reeks of your inability to refute historical facts.

 

[Loofydralb]

Then show

No it isn't. The moslem quran being standardized in 1924 in Egypt due to having too many different versions circulating is a historical fact.

Your 'try harder' crap reeks of your inability to refute historical facts.

Then show me any two Quran pre 1924 and indicate their differences
You can't because no academic would want to jeopardize his reputation by making these allegations
Only idol worshippers do.

 

[duluxe]

No it isn't. The moslem quran being standardized in 1924 in Egypt due to having too many different versions circulating is a historical fact.

Your 'try harder' crap reeks of your inability to refute historical facts.

You are correct, the koran that MUIS fake muslims and other muslims are using today is the Cairo Edition 1924. 1924 Cairo Edition is different from Uthman’s Quran, otherwise it will be called Uthman edition.

According to reputed source:
"The standardization of the Quran in 1924 in Egypt refers to the Egyptian edition of the Quran, which aimed to establish a unified and standardized text for the Arabic Quran. This edition was primarily led by the Egyptian scholar Sheikh Muhammad Tahir al-Husayni, also known as Sheikh Al-Azhar."

 

[JohnTan]

1924 Cairo Edition is different from Uthman’s Quran, otherwise it will be called Uthman edition.

There's no surviving copy of uthman's quran today. Even those qurans in Birmingham or Tokapi museum are incomplete and are dated to be from after uthman's time.

 

[duluxe]

There's no surviving copy of uthman's quran today. Even those qurans in Birmingham or Tokapi museum are incomplete and are dated to be from after uthman's time.

Our forum islamist is stilling denying the existence of the Cairo Edition 1924...

https://quran12-21.org/en/contexts/caire

 

[Hightech88]

Fake news. Islam is a Religion of Peace...

 

[syed putra]

There's no surviving copy of uthman's quran today. Even those qurans in Birmingham or Tokapi museum are incomplete and are dated to be from after uthman's time.

Birmingham text is earlier than uhman's time. But it really depends on how the carbon dating was done. But it really does not matter as mahomet not involved in writing of the quran. He is not the suthor so whatever is written cannot be verified for its authenticity.

 

[JohnTan]

Birmingham text is earlier than uhman's time. But it really depends on how the carbon dating was done. But it really does not matter as mahomet not involved in writing of the quran. He is not the suthor so whatever is written cannot be verified for its authenticity.

Birmingham quran is incomplete. It contains about 2-3 chapters of the whatever version of the quran is floating out there. The Birmingham 'quran' is not a complete quran, barely 10% at most.

 

[JohnTan]

Our forum islamist is stilling denying the existence of the Cairo Edition 1924...

https://quran12-21.org/en/contexts/caire

Sure he is. Even moslem scholars said that most moslems are unaware of the Cairo Edition 1924 quran, and assumed that the 1924 quran has been the same quran since mahomet invented islam.

“Many manuscripts of the Quran written throughout Muslim history, when compared to one another, reveal ample differences, scribal errors, and obvious variants. Simply stated, what many call the unchanged, inerrant copy of the Quran is actually a twentieth century project. Not surprisingly, the editorial board responsible for the 1924 project stated in the final copy that the project was a result of significant concerns among Muslims regarding “errors” in copies previously used in Egypt’s local schools. Nonetheless, most Muslims do not recognize this history and consider the 1924 Royal Cairo Edition of the Quran textus receptus (received text) that existed throughout Islamic history since Uthman. This copy has become the official Quran. Still, there is a deeper problem with the 1924 Cairo edition: this copy was achieved not through a critical assessment of the many available readings of the Quran but rather through the selection of one–and only one–particular variant, which was then advanced as authoritative. While this is common knowledge among scholars, it is not so among the majority of Muslims.”

(Ayman S. Ibrahim, A Concise Guide to the Quran [BakerAcademic, Grand Rapids, MI 2020], Part 1: The History of the Text of the Quran, 13. What Do We Know about the 1924 Royal Cairo Edition of the Quran?, pp. 47-50)

 

[duluxe]

Birmingham text is earlier than uhman's time. But it really depends on how the carbon dating was done.

The carbon dating done on the animal skin or the writing?

 

[syed putra]

The carbon dating done on the animal skin or the writing?

They didnt say.

 

[duluxe]

Fake news. Islam is a Religion of Peace...

Non-muslims are very unpeaceful, I have strong evidence.

Muslims all over the world, when they meet they will greet each other "As-Salaam-Alaikum" (Peace be upon you). The number of peaceful greetings muslims made in a single day is more than all the non-muslims made in a year.

 

[Hightech88]

Non-muslims are very unpeaceful, I have strong evidence.

Muslims all over the world, when they meet they will greet each other "As-Salaam-Alaikum" (Peace be upon you). The number of peaceful greetings muslims made in a single day is more than all the non-muslims made in a year.

SMLJ is that? I only know this...