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Serious Monica Baey vs Nicolas Lim

Two strikes and you are out?

Isn't this a simple case of go forth and peep - we will give you second chance.
Meantime, try not to get caught.

this is ultimate BS! both gahmen & nus just anyhow plug this phase for use to cover their dirty backside.....
"2 strikes and out" is always meant for kindergarten, primary or tertiary school academia only... i.e. if you caught copying in your exams.

I was so surprise this nonsense is brought out to divert media's attention!
and why suddenly our law minister become so quiet when huge deficiency within spf's practices !!???
 


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Official explanation is out. Cover backside n tai chi time for the authorities.

Police warnings issued based on discretion of authorities, lawyers say
Such warnings have come under the spotlight following the case involving NUS undergraduate Monica Baey, who said she caught a fellow student filming her in the hostel shower with a mobile phone.

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SINGAPORE: A conditional stern warning from the police may be handed to a person who has committed a minor offence for the first time, or when there is insufficient evidence, lawyers told CNA on Monday (Apr 22).

Such warnings have come under the spotlight following the case involving National University of Singapore (NUS) undergraduate Monica Baey, who revealed in a series of Instagram Stories last week that she had caught a fellow student filming her in the hostel shower with a mobile phone.

Ms Baey, who said she filed a police report after the incident last November, called on NUS to take tougher action against such offenders.

She also revealed that the perpetrator was given a 12-month conditional warning.

READ: NUS to convene review committee after undergrad calls for 'justice' against man who filmed her in shower
Offenders who are issued with a 12-month conditional stern warning do not face charges at the time, but will likely be charged if they reoffend during that period, lawyers said.

WHAT GOES INTO DECISION BEHIND CONDITIONAL WARNING

Any decision to issue a conditional stern warning is based on the discretion of the authorities, lawyers told CNA.

Mr Foo Cheow Ming, who was a Deputy Public Prosecutor under the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) and now runs a private practice, said that first, the police will investigate and submit the investigation papers to the AGC.

The AGC will then assess the evidence and decide on whether to prosecute. If the AGC agrees with the police’s recommendation for a warning, the police will go ahead and do so.

In coming to a decision, the AGC will also consider representations by the lawyer of the person being investigated, he added.

While there are no boundaries as to what cases will be deemed suitable for such warnings, Mr Foo said these tend to be for smaller cases, for example, nuisance or mischief cases.

A conditional warning is usually issued for low level, first-time offenders, but is also decided on a case-by-case basis, said criminal lawyer Gloria James from Gloria James-Civetta & Co.

“Another factor that may be taken into account is the age of the offender who is still in his or her formative years. Additionally, authorities are likely to consider aggravating factors, and the merits of prosecution,” Ms James said, adding that conditional warnings are unlikely to be given to more serious offences with aggravating factors.

READ: NUS to hold town hall on sexual misconduct
Another criminal lawyer, Adrian Wee from Characterist LLC, said that warnings are typically given when there is insufficient evidence, or in cases where there is enough evidence but other factors were considered.

In some cases, police are not able to share the reasons for issuing warnings as the information may be confidential, such as medical information, said lawyer Sunil Sudheesan from Quahe Woo & Palmer LLC.

There are no laws or guidelines for when warnings should be issued, lawyers said.

WARNINGS GENERALLY EFFECTIVE, SAY LAWYERS

Individuals who have been handed a conditional warning will not have a criminal record under the Registration of Criminals Act. Records of conditional warnings are kept and maintained by the police.

Such warnings also cannot be factored in during sentencing for other offences, Ms James noted, referenced Justice See Kee Oon’s judgment earlier this year in the High Court.

“A warning, stern or conditional, has no legal effect in sentencing,” Justice See had said.

He added that a stern warning is “nothing more than an expression of the relevant authority’s opinion that the offender has committed an offence, and that if he were to subsequently engage in criminal conduct, leniency may not be shown to him and he may be prosecuted for the subsequent conduct".
 
Official explanation is out. Cover backside n tai chi time for the authorities.

Police warnings issued based on discretion of authorities, lawyers say
Such warnings have come under the spotlight following the case involving NUS undergraduate Monica Baey, who said she caught a fellow student filming her in the hostel shower with a mobile phone.

Singapore police-crime
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SINGAPORE: A conditional stern warning from the police may be handed to a person who has committed a minor offence for the first time, or when there is insufficient evidence, lawyers told CNA on Monday (Apr 22).

Such warnings have come under the spotlight following the case involving National University of Singapore (NUS) undergraduate Monica Baey, who revealed in a series of Instagram Stories last week that she had caught a fellow student filming her in the hostel shower with a mobile phone.

Ms Baey, who said she filed a police report after the incident last November, called on NUS to take tougher action against such offenders.

She also revealed that the perpetrator was given a 12-month conditional warning.

READ: NUS to convene review committee after undergrad calls for 'justice' against man who filmed her in shower
Offenders who are issued with a 12-month conditional stern warning do not face charges at the time, but will likely be charged if they reoffend during that period, lawyers said.

WHAT GOES INTO DECISION BEHIND CONDITIONAL WARNING

Any decision to issue a conditional stern warning is based on the discretion of the authorities, lawyers told CNA.

Mr Foo Cheow Ming, who was a Deputy Public Prosecutor under the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC) and now runs a private practice, said that first, the police will investigate and submit the investigation papers to the AGC.

The AGC will then assess the evidence and decide on whether to prosecute. If the AGC agrees with the police’s recommendation for a warning, the police will go ahead and do so.

In coming to a decision, the AGC will also consider representations by the lawyer of the person being investigated, he added.

While there are no boundaries as to what cases will be deemed suitable for such warnings, Mr Foo said these tend to be for smaller cases, for example, nuisance or mischief cases.

A conditional warning is usually issued for low level, first-time offenders, but is also decided on a case-by-case basis, said criminal lawyer Gloria James from Gloria James-Civetta & Co.

“Another factor that may be taken into account is the age of the offender who is still in his or her formative years. Additionally, authorities are likely to consider aggravating factors, and the merits of prosecution,” Ms James said, adding that conditional warnings are unlikely to be given to more serious offences with aggravating factors.

READ: NUS to hold town hall on sexual misconduct
Another criminal lawyer, Adrian Wee from Characterist LLC, said that warnings are typically given when there is insufficient evidence, or in cases where there is enough evidence but other factors were considered.

In some cases, police are not able to share the reasons for issuing warnings as the information may be confidential, such as medical information, said lawyer Sunil Sudheesan from Quahe Woo & Palmer LLC.

There are no laws or guidelines for when warnings should be issued, lawyers said.

WARNINGS GENERALLY EFFECTIVE, SAY LAWYERS

Individuals who have been handed a conditional warning will not have a criminal record under the Registration of Criminals Act. Records of conditional warnings are kept and maintained by the police.

Such warnings also cannot be factored in during sentencing for other offences, Ms James noted, referenced Justice See Kee Oon’s judgment earlier this year in the High Court.

“A warning, stern or conditional, has no legal effect in sentencing,” Justice See had said.

He added that a stern warning is “nothing more than an expression of the relevant authority’s opinion that the offender has committed an offence, and that if he were to subsequently engage in criminal conduct, leniency may not be shown to him and he may be prosecuted for the subsequent conduct".
If Monica happens to be a Minister a Pap MP daughter, see whether Nicholas get conditional warning or not...haha
 
" . . . . a civil lawsuit is usually the only way that a sexual assault victim can get monetary compensation for harm suffered. "
this is a very very sad statement is its true in this country.
does this mean that he can punch anyone for that the victim has no access or afford to take up civil lawsuit against culprit's actions?
this reminds me stephen chow's kungfu hustle...... "where is the law, where is justice !!!"
Tat is why perpetrators have more rights than victims
 
Who the fuck is this Nicholas Lim...can someone please CSI his family background?
 
I've reported you to the authorities for contempt for our judiciary system. Let this be a warning to other oppies.

What contempt? Our judges are kangaroos. They don't know how to think. Actually, all our lawyers are pretty useless. They can't win against the government. Defendant lawyers just toe the line and wayang, instead of fighting for the defendant.
 
What contempt? Our judges are kangaroos. They don't know how to think. Actually, all our lawyers are pretty useless. They can't win against the government. Defendant lawyers just toe the line and wayang, instead of fighting for the defendant.


Posted Here ago. very well said.

" our country got Law but no Justice..." ,, very Sad.
 
FUCK ALL OF YOU LAH.

FT MODEL MOLEST CASE........NO JAIL.

FT CYCLISTS CASES (LOST COUNT HOW MANY).......SOME NOT CAUGHT. YET I DON'T SEE ANYONE ASKING TO CSI THOSE FTs THAT ARE NOT CAUGHT. LIGHTER SENTENCES, YET I DON'T SEE ANYONE KPKB.

FT FINANCE INDUSTRY GUY THAT MOCKS ALL SINGAPOREANS.....STILL IN THE COUNTRY....YET I DON'T SEE ANYONE ASKING FOR HIS PR TO BE REVOKED. IN OTHER COUNTRIES, ONCE YOU COMMIT A CRIME, OUT YOU GO.

YET EVEN A MINISTER IS CALLING FOR NICHOLAS 'S BLOOD. YES HE HAS DONE WRONG. BUT TO SEE SO CALLED SINGAPOREANS CALLING FOR ONE FELLOW COUNTRYMAN'S BLOOD WHEN FTs LIGHT SENTENCE CASES ARE QUIETLY ACCEPTED.

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE PUTTING UP SEVERAL SIMILAR CASES WHERE THE OFFENDERS WERE JAILED OR FINED.

WHERE ARE SINGAPOREANS WHEN FTs RECEIVE LIGHTER SENTENCES?

YOU MEAN YOU CANNOT FIND COMPARISONS?

SHAME ON YOU SINGAPOREANS.

ONLY COME DOWN HARD ON OWN FELLOW COUNTRYMAN.

STILL HAVE THE ANG MO TUA KI SYNDROME LAH............NO WONDER FTs LOOK DOWN ON YOU..

GO WEAR A MASK LAH. SHAMELESSS BUNCH!
 
It's the allegation that Lim has powerful parents who may have intervened to ensure lighter punishment that has everyone riled up.

Many other sexual assault cases in nus received similar brush offs, but none as we know involved alleged intervention by powerful parents.
 
Sinkees are just 3rd class citizens ,don't argue,accept the punishments without mercy.
 

NUSSU who wrote the above is obviously a moron cause Monica has shown more political intuition by attacking NUS instead. Look what happened? OYK, Shan and all are all now coming out in support of her. If she attacked the AG and SPF, you think they'll shut it down or support it? Stuppppiddddddd.....
 
PM Sweetiepie, why you defending Nick?
KNN KNN party not defending anyone but just stating preliminary observations that monica is a attention seeking young slut and nic is a handsome young man that more likely to be playful then a pervert KNN it is similar to a typical nus freshmen orientation programme whereby the seniors tend to have sexual related fun with the willing groups of freshmen that is no big deal KNN and in fact more sexual favours can be obtained through these orientation eg squeezing of neh nehs digging of pussies etc than peeping toms KNN the correct preventive action monica should have done is to avoid staying in the hall specifically not to have shower without anyone on guard knowing the hall are full of young hot blooded man KNN
 
NUSSU who wrote the above is obviously a moron cause Monica has shown more political intuition by attacking NUS instead. Look what happened? OYK, Shan and all are all now coming out in support of her. If she attacked the AG and SPF, you think they'll shut it down or support it? Stuppppiddddddd.....

The victim refuses to be suppressed and doing right things to uphold justice.

This reply makes NUS students sound like morons indeed. Is that what A Levels is all about these days?
 
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