Michael Palmer: Why Singaporeans should vote for the PAP

[SNAblog]

Do you agree?

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[Teo Kok Eng]

Tried and tested?

I'm sure PAP have tried and tested the flood control system.

 

[manokie]

Supporting them doesn't mean you have to vote for them

Vote for opposition because you want to have more bargaining power when it comes to policies and other decisions made by the Govt!

 

[halsey02]

Supporting them doesn't mean you have to vote for them

Vote for opposition because you want to have more bargaining power when it comes to policies and other decisions made by the Govt!

You are right on this, the PAP should do a serious examining of themselves, why after 4 decades or so, they are festering a 'keg' of fermenting cheap wine, which will explode anyday. All you need is a catalyst...people who had believe & trusted in them; who felt betrayed & had been betrayed; will act on day soon.

We need oppositions, real good ones; not those who take 'potshot' at the 'windmill' type; who does highlight what we need, but is of little use.

Supporting the PAP, doesn't mean we have to vote for them...:p

 

[johnny333]

All you need is a catalyst...people who had believe & trusted in them; who felt betrayed & had been betrayed; will act on day soon.

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Many people already given up on the PAP. The PAP labels them as "quitters".
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[Loofydralb]

What the cock is he talking about? Rambling on and on in the bush......

Is this what we pay him for? To talk nonsense instead of giving solutions?

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

THe PAP have indeed been tried and tested and the result is THAY HAVE FAILED MISERABLY.

Such a tiny piece of land strategically located within the world's busiest sea lane from trade and they have made a majority of the people debtors for largely the rest of their working lives.

The PAP have enslaved the people of SIngapore. There is no pres freedom, no freedom of expression and the list goes on and on.

The PAP should no desire to be accountable for their acts even in plain eyesight it is crystal clear that many of their policies are nothing more than attempts at enslaving the populace.

:oIo:

Vote them out of power in the next GE. There is no other option. The civil service will still be in place but we will then have politicians who will put the people first.

 

[Sideswipe]

Supporting them doesn't mean you have to vote for them
Vote for opposition because you want to have more bargaining power when it comes to policies and other decisions made by the Govt!

I blame our voters for failing to see benefits of multi-party system and return PAP with 95% parliament every GE.

 

[gbomega]

Why he whining like peasants, hahaha....

 

[Subok]

Technically there is nothing"upright" about politics as politics are such as they are "politicking" therefore no matter which ways we vote, it will still contribute towards the evil of politics.

However, my urge to all voters is which is the greater evil? The trial and tested EVILNESS of Ruling Elites or the unknown of the Oppositions.

For me, enough of the current evilness, I rather err in uncharter ground of "evilness" than the current known evilness.

Therefore, which parties is of the lesser evil should be the main question we answer when we vote.

 

[jw5]

Technically there is nothing"upright" about politics as politics are such as they are "politicking" therefore no matter which ways we vote, it will still contribute towards the evil of politics.

However, my urge to all voters is which is the greater evil? The trial and tested EVILNESS of Ruling Elites or the unknown of the Oppositions.

For me, enough of the current evilness, I rather err in uncharter ground of "evilness" than the current known evilness.

Therefore, which parties is of the lesser evil should be the main question we answer when we vote.

It's not about which party or group is the greater evil.
We cannot be certain what the alternative parties would do if they became the government, simply because it has never happened before.

It's about limiting the power of the ruling party, so that they make the welfare of the ordinary Singaporean their top priority, and ensure that the government has accountablity to the people. And the way to do this is to have a strong opposition to monitor and scrutinize the government's words and actions.

If they cannot have empathy for the ordinary Singaporean, at least let them have fear that they may lose their positions at the elections.

 

[jw5]

I blame our voters for failing to see benefits of multi-party system and return PAP with 95% parliament every GE.

I blame the voters too.
But I have figured out why they vote as they have.
There is quite a large number of voters who vote pap because they benefit from them being in power, they feel afraid of not voting pap, they feel comfortable with their lives with pap in power, they feel grateful to them, etc etc.
Add to this group the newly minted citizens and those who have been brainwashed and continue to be ignorant, apathetic and even to some extent stupid, and unfortunately, that still gives them a clear majority.

 

[jw5]

You are right on this, the PAP should do a serious examining of themselves, why after 4 decades or so, they are festering a 'keg' of fermenting cheap wine, which will explode anyday. All you need is a catalyst...people who had believe & trusted in them; who felt betrayed & had been betrayed; will act on day soon.

We need oppositions, real good ones; not those who take 'potshot' at the 'windmill' type; who does highlight what we need, but is of little use.

Supporting the PAP, doesn't mean we have to vote for them...:p

They won't be doing a serious examination of themselves anytime soon.
And the reasons are simple, they are paid too much to bother to do that and they have been convinced over the years that they are doing the right thing and are indispensable.

The only way to change things is to vote several of them out of parliament and explain the reasons to them after the event, if they bother to pass. Only then will those still in parliament bother to examine themselves

 

[manokie]

I blame the voters too.
But I have figured out why they vote as they have.
There is quite a large number of voters who vote pap because they benefit from them being in power, they feel afraid of not voting pap, they feel comfortable with their lives with pap in power, they feel grateful to them, etc etc.
Add to this group the newly minted citizens and those who have been brainwashed and continue to be ignorant, apathetic and even to some extent stupid, and unfortunately, that still gives them a clear majority.

I think the main reason is that they indirectly and directly hire a lot of Sinkies

They do that through Stat-boards, HDB contractors, Ministries etc etc

Those people who got paid by MIW will be inclined to vote for them.. Will you bite at the hand that feeds you?

Also, don't forget the constant propaganda from Shit Times..

 

[Sideswipe]

I think the main reason is that they indirectly and directly hire a lot of Sinkies

They do that through Stat-boards, HDB contractors, Ministries etc etc

regarding our civil services, only the top levels of management would be directly effected if we have a change of ruling party.
guess 95% of civil servants have nothing to worry about in this scenario.

 

[Subok]

They won't be doing a serious examination of themselves anytime soon.
And the reasons are simple, they are paid too much to bother to do that and they have been convinced over the years that they are doing the right thing and are indispensable.

The only way to change things is to vote several of them out of parliament and explain the reasons to them after the event, if they bother to pass. Only then will those still in parliament bother to examine themselves

If we do this, it will tantamount to "we still want them" much like the by-election attitude the OPP used last time,

Remember their reply then? "You see, even OPP want us to be govt. So it is proof we are good!"

NO! If we put more OPP just in the house to threaten them, it will not work but boost their morale even more.

Pure ARROGANCE had already poisoned the ruling elites to the core, you still have to believe there are still remnants of goodness? Empathy and sympathy for the people? Do we need to see mass numbers of Singaporean live in poverty before we wake to see what's happening to us under them?

Even if PAP is good, they need to re-affirm their own "higher calling" to "SERVE & LEAD" the people. And only way for them to revive renew themselves is through another "holy baptism" of FIRE. And this I mean, a total exit from power. And they will have 5 years of wilderness to answer for their own lost of initial vision of government from the people by the people FOR the people!

At the same time, I personally believe some must do time for the "crime" they committed during their regime and only way for such tribunals to exist is to have a new leadership that will witch hunt them down. No way can we expect the ruling elites to persecute their own fold, not with current leadership.

Least we be folly not ONCE, not even TWICE, but elections after elections again and again that the ruling elites will keep to their promises... do not count on it... the "holy Spirit" had left them... and the "almighty" no longer take favor in them.

It's time they GO totally than to see remnants of them. How worst can OPP get in government will be no more comparable to what the current ruling elites did to Singaporean.

They enrich u then "rob" you.. we are nothing but cash crops. If this is what we believe then just put in a few opp to tickle them.

IMHO, NO! they must exit as the ruling elites. No 2 sides in on one side of coin.

 

[kirby]

regarding our civil services, only the top levels of management would be directly effected if we have a change of ruling party.
guess 95% of civil servants have nothing to worry about in this scenario.

Only political appointees need to be replaced but unfortunately most of civil servants think they are working for the PAP and not the people.

Educate the population on the working of the govt is the first step.

 

[Baroko]

Sure we will all vote for PAP if we need:

-higher GST
-higher transport cost
-higher HDB pigeon holes
-higher car prices
-higher cost for education
-higher health care cost
-lower salaries
-higher salaries for world's highest paid politicians
-different set of laws to protect politicians we love so much
-not know our Constitution
-more floods
-more FTs
-less jobs for Singaporeans
-more dickheads in Parliament
-more arrogant leaders who don't respect the citizens
-leaders without compassion
-controlled press & what nots
-unaccountabilty in leaders
-blameless leaders
-poor grassroot leader behaviour
-the ISA
-HC as head of Temasek
-paper generals
-cronies who benefit from the system

Sure, Mr Palmer, we will if we need the above.

 

[Baroko]

I blame our voters for failing to see benefits of multi-party system and return PAP with 95% parliament every GE.

The GRC deserves to be at the top of the blame. In a fair electoral system, winning 66% of the votes should mean only having 66% of the seats. No so in Singapore's case since the GRC was invented to keep the PAP in power. Their argument that it is about minority representation is bollocks as minority segregation will not make us ONE Singapore.

 

[halsey02]

They won't be doing a serious examination of themselves anytime soon.
And the reasons are simple, they are paid too much to bother to do that and they have been convinced over the years that they are doing the right thing and are indispensable.

The only way to change things is to vote several of them out of parliament and explain the reasons to them after the event, if they bother to pass. Only then will those still in parliament bother to examine themselves

They have became DESPICABLE ME & their minions:p