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Re: Life in Singapore (3)

Saturday, January 10, 2009
SCMP:Deadline issued for investmen
http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdi...07964f5d0135&pdaffid=8HM4kDzWViwfc7AqkYlqIQ==

10 Jan 2009
Enoch Yiu and Maria Chan

The Hong Kong Monetary Authority told banks yesterday to implement seven consumer protection measures concerning the sale of investment products, and to formulate plans to separate their deposit-taking and retail securities business before the end of March.

The measures are part of a range of proposals suggested in separate reports disclosed on Thursday by the authority and the Securities and Futures Commission on last year’s Lehman Brothers minibond fiasco. On the same day, Financial Secretary John Tsang Chun-wah ordered “an immediate review” of Hong Kong’s financial regulatory structure.

The authority sent a circular to all banks yesterday requiring them to immediately add “health-warning” statements to their sales material on retail derivative products to warn of their risks. It told them to immediately introduce adequate controls to ensure sales staff were not solely rewarded for sales performance.

By the end of March, banks must instal audio systems to record client conversations on investment products sales, as well as introduce a “mystery shopper” programme – in which undercover staff monitor the behaviour of those selling investment products.

In addition, the authority told banks to formulate plans to separate their deposit-taking and investment products sales functions. Both reports said it was a conflict for bank tellers to handle deposits and sales. But the regulators have different ideas on how to solve the problem.

The authority report said banks should use separate counters and staff in a branch to sell investment products. But the SFC suggested banks be banned from using their branch networks at all for these financial instruments. Rather, they should set up a separate subsidiary, using different offices and staff.

The proposed reforms come in the wake of the collapse of the US bank Lehman Brothers in September, a crisis that left 43,700 Hong Kong investors holding derivatives it issued or guaranteed, but which had lost much or all of their value.

Many claimed they were misled by bank tellers, who sold the products as alternatives to time deposits or low-risk bonds when, in fact, they were risky credit-linked derivatives.

Raymond So Wai-man, an associate professor of finance at Chinese University, supported the idea that banks should separate deposit-taking and investment products sales.

“When bank tellers make use of depositors’ financial information and cross-sell them investment products, customers may be confused between investment and deposit taking,” he said. Peter Wong Tung-shun, chairman of the Hong Kong Association of Banks

But Peter Wong Tung-shun, chairman of the Hong Kong Association of Banks, said some banks were very small and it might not be easy to have separate counters.

Mr Wong said banks might face higher operating costs after adopting the suggested proposals. “It’s hard to say whether banks have to pass on the cost to consumers,” he said.

The authority and the SFC reports both noted that Britain, Singapore and Australia had “cooling off” periods of 14 to 30 days on some investment products in which customers can change their minds.

In Hong Kong, there is no such cooling off period. However, the Hong Kong Federation of Insurers does have a cancellation period in which customers can cancel their policies up to 21days after applying.

Chan Kin-por, lawmaker for the insurance sector, said this had helped to reduce complaints. He said 10 to 15 per cent of policies sold were cancelled in the cooling off period.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 7:07 PM 0 comments
 
Sunday, January 11, 2009
Yield during the Great Depression of the 1930s
Dr. Money wrote in The New Paper:

For example, if you bought US shares in 1929, it would have taken 28 years – until 1957 – before you got back all your investment. Other markets have taken even longer.

It is true that stocks earn 10 per cent against 3 per cent for bonds – in the long-run. But that can be very long.

Here is my perspective.

If you buy shares now, when it has dropped 50% and it takes 28 years to reach its previous peak (i.e. 100% gain from the current price), the effective yield is 2.5% per annum. If it takes a shorter time to reach the previous peak, the yield will be higher than 2.5% per annum.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 11:53 AM
 
Sunday, January 11, 2009
SCMP:Two women sue bank over minibond losses
http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdi...470eb087254e&pdaffid=8HM4kDzWViwfc7AqkYlqIQ==

11 Jan 2009
Yvonne Tsui

A 69-year-old woman and her daughter-in-law are seeking a full refund and damages from the Bank of China (Hong Kong) over their losses in Lehman Brothers minibonds.

Chin Yee-ching, a retired woman living in Malaysia, and her daughterin-law Chan Lai-mei, who lives in Po Shan Road, filed a writ in the High Court against Bank of China (Hong Kong) on Friday.

The bank is accused of being negligent in failing to “ correctly and accurately disclose and explain the real nature and structure of the product” and the true risk involved in their minibond investments.

Minibonds are not corporate bonds, but consist of high-risk creditlinked derivatives. They are marketed as a proxy investment in well-known companies.

In the writ, the pair also allege the bank failed to provide sufficient information and time for them to consider and make investment decisions about the products.

It said that Ms Chin and Ms Chan were approached by Cheng Kit-yee, a bank officer at a branch in Connaught Road Central, and Ms Cheng persuaded them to buy a series 35 minibond.

The claim said Ms Cheng told Ms Chan that the minibond was very low risk and the interest yield was good. Ms Cheng allegedly told her that the product was just like a time deposit and was very safe, while the interest was a little bit higher.

Ms Chan then agreed to early uplift of her US dollar fixed time deposit of US$ 80,000 so she could buy the minibonds, and Ms Cheng helped her apply for a waiver of the early uplift penalty. The writ said Ms Chan further agreed to use HK$ 400,000 savings to purchase the minibonds.

Having allegedly suggested the product was low risk and a conservative investment, Ms Cheng advised Ms Chin to invest her HK$1.48 million savings in minibonds.

However, another bank officer, Kenneth Lam, informed the pair in late September that the collapse of the American bank on September 15 affected their minibond investments.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 12:31 PM
1 comments:

Anonymous said...

How come all the actions happened in HK?

Why here so quiet? Why hah?
January 11, 2009 3:56 PM
 
Sunday, January 11, 2009
Hilarious sayings of George W Bush
And they have no disregard for human life."—Describing the brutality of Afghan fighters, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008

I remember meeting a mother of a child who was abducted by the North Koreans right here in the Oval Office."—Washington, D.C., June 26, 2008

"We want people owning their home—we want people owning a businesses."—Washington, D.C., April 18, 2008

"How can you possibly have an international agreement that's effective unless countries like China and India are not full participants?"—Camp David, April 19, 2008

More here
http://www.tankinlian.com/articles/wisdom.html
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 8:34 PM
 
Sunday, January 11, 2009
TABS - Taxi Automated Booking Service (8202 8866)
You can test TABS now by sending a zone code (from 01 to 82) to TABS 82028866. If a taxi is available, you will get a SMS stating that a taxi will call you on your mobile phone. Actually, you will get a dummy taxi (during this testing period). You will get the SMS, but there is no actual taxi at this time.

If no taxi is available, you will be placed on the queue for the next "dummy" taxi to be available. You should get a SMS within 5 minutes.

Give it a try. The zone should be the first two digit of the postal code of your home, office or wherever you happen to be.

Send ZZ (01 to 82) to 82028866. Test the system now. It is FREE.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 10:15 PM
 
Looking for a job in 2009 - 27 replies

Monday, January 12, 2009
Looking for a job in 2009 - 27 replies
Summary of 27 replies

1. Are you likely to look for a job in 2009?

Yes - first time job seeker 11.1%
Yes - now unemployed 37.0%
Maybe - may be retrenched soon 25.9%
No - I am in a secure job 25.9%

2. If you cannot find a full time salaried job, which options would you prefer?

Set up own business 33.3%
Work as a contractor 25.9%
Work as a commissioned sales person 18.5%
Work as a part time worker on hourly rate) 63.0%

3. What is the hourly rate that you expect (with CPF, no fringe benefits)?
$6 to $10 per hour: 72%
Above $10 per hour: 28$

4. Which workplace do you prefer?

In the city area 3.8%
In a nearby town center 11.5%
Near my home 42.3%
Anywhere 42.3%

5. Which do you prefer?

Full time job - 8 hours a day with overtime 30.8%
Full time job - 8 hours a day, no overtime 15.4%
Flexible job - 4 to 8 hours a day 23.1%
Flexible job - 0 to 4 hours a day 0.0%
Any of the above 30.8%

6. What type of work do you prefer?

Office based 84.6%
Service based 34.6%
Factory based 11.5%
Field work 34.6%
Others 19.2%
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 5:35 AM
 
Part Time Work

Monday, January 12, 2009
Part Time Work
There is strong interest in looking for part time work $6 to $10 an hour, preferably near the home. I will approach someone to create a portal to allow the matching of part time workers and employers.

I hope that this will create a new type of employment. The employer can engage a part time worker initially, and offer full time work if the worker is found to be suitable.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 9:08 AM
 
Re: Part Time Work

Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Insurance that worsen crunch
Read this article. It explains the challenges faced by the economy during the global credit crisis.

Insurance that worsen crunch

The solution? Credit insurance should be operated by the government as a non-profit business.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 9:48 AM
 
Beware of bubbles

Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Beware of bubbles
A bubble occurs when market prices are inflated beyond their real values. This has happened with the property market, stock market and more recently, with the commodity market, oil market, China stockmarket and India stockmarket.

All bubbles will lead to a collapse. All the markets mentioned above have collapsed.

Many people may not realise that there is another safe market that is in a bubble. It is the Government bond market. Due to risk aversion, many people put their money in long term Government bonds. The excess demand has pushed up the price and reduce the yield.

If the long term yield for safe Government bonds should be 4% (to cover inflation and cost of money) and excess demand causes the yield to drop to 2%, the price has gone up by about 25% in the case of a 15 year bond. If the yield returns back to the real value of 4%, the price will drop by 20% to get back to the normal level. It is possible to have a bubble in safe investments as well.

If you are caught with long term bonds yielding 2% (and the market price has dropped by 20%, you still have the option of keeping your money at the low yield of 2% for the 15 years).

Lesson: Avoid bubbles. Avoid paying a high price for your investment. Take a long term view.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 9:52 AM
 
4 Comments

Blogger Jan said...

Hi Mr Tan,
Thank you for yr timely reminder!
My SGS bond, bought 2 yrs ago, will mature on 15 Jan 09, guess i will not put my money into them just yet...
I don't actually know how it works but I do know that interest and yield go separate ways, and the principal is 100% guaranteed.

January 13, 2009 10:33 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sell or take profit in a bubble. Do not buy.

Buy when it has deflated.

However, such opportunities don't come often so you must read and seize the timing when it comes.

January 13, 2009 1:20 PM
Anonymous game1980 said...

Price is what you pay and value is what you get.

Always compare bond yield and earning yield and knows the risk premium in buying shares.

January 13, 2009 1:43 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bubble or no bubble, long-term bonds are bad investments. If you compare the price history of LT bonds and stocks, they're just as volatile. But, LT bonds have low inflation-adjusted real returns whereas stocks real returns are much higher.

It's better to invest short-term funds in short-term government bonds and long-term funds in equities. The short-term funds will provide for liquidity needs and the long-term funds will aim for higher returns with the ability to sit through volatility in the interim.

January 13, 2009 5:27 PM
 
Invest in assets at deflated prices

Tuesday, January 13, 2009
Invest in assets at deflated prices
In normal times, investment in shares give a dividend yield of around 3%. In a crisis, when the share price dropped by 50%, the dividend yield increase to 6%. It is likely that the company will suffer lower profits, so the dividend will be reduced. After reduction, the yield is likely to be still quite attractive.

If business conditions are bad, the company has the choice to reduce their cost by downsizing their operations. When their profit stabilizes, their share price will also stop dropping. When the profit increases with the return of economic growth, the share price will show a good gain.

It may take a few years or longer, but it will eventually happen. In the meantime, the dividend yield will continue to be quite attractive. To avoid the risk of selecting the wrong shares (i.e. of a company that may go bust), it is important th diversify the investment into a fund (e.g. an exchange traded fund).

My view: Invest when the share price is deflated, due to the pessimistic situation. Invest for the long term.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 2:04 PM
3 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sage.
January 13, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous said...

STI-ETF
January 13, 2009 6:12 PM
Anonymous said...

I am waiting for the ST index to drop to 1200 before investing
January 13, 2009 7:59 PM
 
Re: Invest in assets at deflated prices

10 Comments

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sage.

January 13, 2009 5:18 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STI-ETF

January 13, 2009 6:12 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am waiting for the ST index to drop to 1200 before investing

January 13, 2009 7:59 PM
Anonymous Wilson said...

STI ETF is thinly traded and at time of need you may not be able to sell.

January 13, 2009 10:04 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One minus point to watch:
with bank credit/loans harder to secure, many companies will conserve cash by reducing dividend or withold dividend during lean years.

January 13, 2009 10:09 PM
Blogger Falcon said...

In my opinion, Gold is the best asset to buy at this time. I am referring to physical Gold and not paper Gold. The reason is because physical Gold is limited in quantity and traditionally Gold is the asset to buy in times of turbulence. This recession even more so because of the great uncertainty in all other asset classes, including bonds as reasoned by Mr Tan. Equities are not out of the woods yet and properties are just beginning to slide.
On a macro view, even external economies, including the US and China, the rich investors there would also be piling into physical Gold. Paper Gold is easily manipulated but physical Gold, once it is in your hands, there are no recurring fees, administrative fees and other sorts of fees that the financial institutions can pile on you. Once physical Gold is yours, it is yours till you choose to sell it.
In times of inflation, physical Gold holds its own very well too.
The only downside is that you are not paid any interest on it, except in Vietnam, and you have got to have a safe place to store it.
But hey, who needs the few percent of interest when the risk is so high that you can lose your principal.

January 13, 2009 11:45 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DBS Bank, City Dev and Capitaland are good choices at deflated prices at the moment.

January 14, 2009 12:01 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The best form of investment in this difficult times is on higher education !

January 14, 2009 7:00 AM
Anonymous A Tan said...

Not if you are 70 going on 80.

It is vv gd advice for those in 20s-40s.

And don't forget, if you need the money in an emergency, you may have to sell at a loss even after taking into acct the dividens received.

So use only money you think you are not likely to call upon in the medium term.

January 14, 2009 7:18 AM
Blogger Hunter-Gatherer said...

Unless the dividend is reduced as well and remains at 3%. There are a lot of people catching falling knives at the moment and we are probably looking at a flight to commodities or manufacturing and away from services.

January 15, 2009 12:54 AM
 
Re: Invest in assets at deflated prices

Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Central database of medical records
Should we have a central database of medical records? Will it lead to more efficient treatment and low medical cost? Give your views in this survey.

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=QALcpiAF2TsyYKQ_2bt0yjKg_3d_3d
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 7:13 AM
1 comments:

Parka said...

I think I've read something similar that's being tested in US. It's a central databased uploaded onto a central server online. Different hospitals (and insurance companies when permitted) can then access information.

The problem is kick starting the project. There's no motivation for hospitals, specifically the people working in the hospitals, to go ahead with this. (Tell me how they are paid and I will tell you how they will behave.) The initiative will have to be from the government.
January 14, 2009 6:50 PM
 
A new way to do business - by conference call

Wednesday, January 14, 2009
A new way to do business - by conference call
I have to discuss a business proposal with a Telco. Their marketing managers were busy and could not find a convenient time for a meeting. We decided to have a conference call. It went smoothly. There was no need for a face to face meeting. This is a new way to do business. It is more efficient.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 1:08 PM
5 comments:

Concerned said...

A lot of people realised this, but they do not like to practice it. This is especially true for a lot of people with overseas meeting, as the participants got to travel under company account.
January 14, 2009 3:21 PM
Anonymous said...

We have been doing this for more than ten years with people joining the meeting from all corners of the world. If you do this often with multiple parties, you should appoint a process monitor, establish a procedure for roll call, set priority for speakers, follow certain round-table discussion rules, keep your phone on mute when not speaking etc. You can also have synchronized presentations via Netmeeting or other more secured software products. But for important meeting, face to face would be preferred. Failing which video conference would be a good substitute.
January 14, 2009 4:16 PM
Bernard Lim said...

Cisco's Telepresence comes to mind.
January 14, 2009 5:31 PM
Parka said...

I've heard of Cisco's Telepresence before and saw a demo on the web. Truly it's amazing and an ultimate tme saver if used appropriately.
January 14, 2009 6:55 PM
Hunter-Gatherer said...

There are a number of products such MS Live Communication Server that can link your organisation as well as trusted partners. If you have established relationships then they can save time in sharing information.
January 15, 2009 12:49 AM
 
How to identity a bubble

Wednesday, January 14, 2009
How to identity a bubble
Someone asked, "How to identify a bubble?"

The answer: "Nobody knows". Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the US Federal Reserve Board said that one knows a bubble after it has burst. This is not helpful. It turned out to be disastrous, as the bursting of the US housing bubble has led to the global financial crisis.

Is there a rule of thumb to identify a bubble? Nobody has dared to stick out his thumb. But I shall try.

You get a bubble when the current price is 50% or 100% higher than the average price for the past 5 years. Maybe, we should look at the actual statistics and see if 50% or 100% is a better indicator.

For example, the average oil price during the past 5 years prior to 2008 must be around US$40. When it exceeded US$80, it was a bubble. After it burst, it returned to US$40.

When the high end property prices in Singapore doubled in value in 2008 compared to the past years, it was a bubble. It burst soon after.
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 1:11 PM
6 comments:

TYP said...

Dear Mr. Tan

I am afraid I will have to correct you on what is a bubble.

In Supply and Demand, a bubble is created when there is over supply and under demand.

In oil, there is a situation of under supply and over demand. Under supply being the depleting oil fields and inventories around the world currently. Over demand due to 2 developing economies with 2 billion population combined and that are playing a catching up chase toward middle class level as in the west.
January 14, 2009 3:04 PM
Tan Kin Lian said...

Dear TYP

It should be the other way round. A bubble occurs then there is over demand and inadequate supply.

The over demand is usually used by speculation and not real demand. This lead to a bubble.

When too many people wanted to buy properties, because they think that the price will continue to go up, their demand causes the bubble.
January 14, 2009 3:55 PM
Concerned said...

Bubbles occur when there is excessive speculation. People usually has a feel that there is a bubble, when they are in the midst of a bubble, but refuse to recognise it and get out because the winning feeling is so good. Bubbles are caused by excessive greed and investors become too confident and ignore the fundamentals. When the Shanghai Index was over 6,000 many investors knew there was a bubble, but they believe in the 'greater fool theory' and refuse to pull out, hoping to catch the last gush of winnings. It is easier to see a bubble from the outside than from the inside, i.e. when you have some investment you tends to hope that your investment will continue to flourish and brings you greater winnings, but when you have no investment on the table, you will have a neutral view of the market and can identify the bubbles more easily.
January 14, 2009 5:24 PM
Anonymous said...

Is the bubble-deflate V,U,L or inverted V,U, L?

For instance some report in TODAY (14.1.09) mentioned Singapore is going for a very severe recession this year but recovery will also be very fast. That means a V.

Like that quite OK what, even for bubbles. Just suffer a short, sharp pain and after that very fast comfortable again.
January 14, 2009 9:53 PM
Wilson said...

I agree with Concerned. A bubble is always associated with big speculation. If there is only demand that push up the price of a certain commodity, without a lot of speculation, the price will remain firm. But producers may also speculate that the demand continues and hence produce more than required. This may also create a bubble.
January 14, 2009 10:35 PM
Jeremy said...

HBD prices are definitely in a bubble then!
 
Value and characte

Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Value and character

I teach a course in Singapore Management University.

Apart from the syllabus of the course, I like the students to learn some values and tips that will be useful for them to cope with the challenges of life.

I will share some of the values that guide my character. I hope that these values will be useful as a guide to the students.

http://www.tankinlian.com/articles/values.html

Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 4:32 PM
3 comments:

Parka said...

I've read through the pdf article. Indeed it's a useful guide. But for it to be adopted by anyone, the person must keep those principles in mind everyday.

Those are timeless principles.

I recommend everyone to read also The Law of Success by Napoleon Hill. It's the book that almost all self-help books refer to, or base their principles on. In fact, it should be made compulsory readings in secondary schools.
January 14, 2009 6:53 PM
Anonymous said...

Mr Tan,

Nothing mentioned in the link. Where are the values and tips listed?
January 14, 2009 9:44 PM
Parka said...

Guys, it's actually a pdf document.
January 14, 2009 11:52 PM
 
Contact Persons (Distributor, Product)

Wednesday, January 14, 2009
Contact Persons (Distributor, Product)

Distributor

M John


[email protected]


Maybank

K P Yeow


[email protected]


CIMB

H L Soh


[email protected]


American Express

H L Soh


[email protected]


Standard Chartered

Fang Wu Lim


[email protected]


DBS

Ting S K


[email protected]


OCBC

Gan C C


[email protected]


ABN Amro

Daphne Phua


[email protected]


Hong Leong Finance

Mrs Ong


[email protected]


UOB/Kay Hian



Products

M John


[email protected]


Minibond

Fang Wu Lim


[email protected]


High Notes

Gan C C


[email protected]


Pinnacle Note

Yin Ng


[email protected]


Jubilee


Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 5:28 PM
1 comments:

Anonymous said...

Mr. Tan,
We have a UOB KAYHIAN GROUP with about 30 members. But I did not see our rep name?
January 14, 2009 8:51 PM
 
Helping Singaporeans to cope with recession (2)

Thursday, January 15, 2009
Helping Singaporeans to cope with recession (2)

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/12/helping-singaporeans-cope-with-the-recessio/

Summary of survey: 85 responses

1. What do you think about the relief loan for Singaporeans to cover loss of earnings caused by reduction or a shorter work week?

It is a good idea


28.6%

It is worth a try


50.0%

It is not practical


21.4%

2. Is there a big risk that the relief loan can be abused?

It is a big risk that cannot be managed


15.5%

There is a risk, but it can be managed


76.2%

The risk is small, and worth taking


8.3%

3. If a business faces reduced demand, what is the best way for the business to cope?

Retrench employees


4.8%

Cut wages


32.1%

Ask the employees to take no-pay leave


63.1%

4. Many countries have unemployment insurance. Is it time for Singapore to introduce such as scheme?

Most countries find it difficult to prevent abuses


18.1%

The abuses are small and can be managed


39.8%

It is better to start offering a relief loan along the lines proposed


42.2%

5. Should Goods & Services Tax (GST) be reduced temporarily to cope with the recession?

Yes - to encourage consumer spending


79.3%

No - people should reduced spending in hard times


9.8%

No - there are better ways to encourage spending


11.0%

6. How much should GST be reduced to encourage spending?

Reduce by 7% points


10.8%

Reduce by 4% points


51.8%

Reduce by 2% points


20.5%

Do not reduce GST


16.9%

7. How should the Government cope with a reduction in GST revenues?

Increase personal income tax


4.9%

Reduce government spending


18.8%

Draw down on past reserves


46.3%

8. What is the best way to encourage consumer spending?

Give cash handouts


28.9%

Give food and other coupons


14.5%

Reduce GST and charges


56.6%


Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 4:58 AM
 
Re: Helping Singaporeans to cope with recession (2)

Thursday, January 15, 2009
"Pinnacle Action Group" formed to work on a possible Class Action

(1) A working committee of 6 investors (informally called "Pinnacle Action Group") have come together to work on a possible class action for Series 1,2,3,5,6,7,9 & 10 of the Pinnacle Notes. Series 9 & 10 have been declared worthless and the other Series were notified in December 2008 that they are close to but not yet declared worthless. The fate of these other series now hang in the balance. The group feels that we cannot allow this tragic event to go unchallenged

(2) We have briefed several Senior Counsel (SC)and the proposed class action will,unlike the case of Minibonds, be against the arranger of the Notes, viz Morgan Stanley Singapore. An official website to facilitate the organizing of the proposed class action will be launched as soon as one of the SC briefed has been appointed to take on the case.

(3)The proposed class action will target 1000 or more affected investors in the various series to join in .The legal fee structure proposed will be simple and affordable - perhaps as low as only about $1000/- per head - on an all-inclusive basis right up to appeal stage , win or lose. To do this , we need 1000 or more to join in. The process will also be kept simple and the issues raised will be easy to understand for all who wish to join in the proposed class action and try and recoup their losses.

To be kept informed, before the launch the official "Pinnacle Class Action" website, Pinnacle investors are urged to contact us at the email address given below. Please provide us with your:

(a) name; (b) Series bought; (c) email address, and (d) contact tel

Thank you.

Sincerely,
"Pinnacle Action Group"

(J C Chan, S Tan, C S Lim, P Loh, B T Tee and C Y Boey)

Email: [email protected]
Posted by Tan Kin Lian at 6:53 PM
4 comments:

Anonymous said...

TO: PAG [Pinnacle Action Group]
Great and thanks.

TO: BEING CHEATED INVESTORS
This is the direction forward bec MAS actually tells us to fend for ourselves.

I urge all Pinnacles notes holders, whatever series you are holding, TO JOIN THE CLASS ACTION bec they will die in a matter of time. Your only hope is:

[a] file complaint under the MAS 3-step guideline, which is only FORMALITY

be part of the class action, which is the REAL ACTION.

[c] More people the cost will be LOWER eg. $1,000 x 1,000 pax is $1 million war chest; $500 x 3,000 pax is $1.5 million ware chest.

[d] Even we lose (I doubt so) the can of WORMS will be pouring upon the regulators and distributors etc.
January 15, 2009 7:34 PM
Anonymous said...

I urge investors to wait for Mr. Tan QC opinion before rushing in. The opinion will be ready by end of Jan 2009 and there is no urgency to act before that.
January 15, 2009 8:13 PM
Wilson said...

One of my concerns is: If the investors lose in the legal battle with the FIs, will the FIs counter-sue the investors, or will the investors have to bear the legal costs of the FIs (which I believe the FIs would demand so)? If this happen, will the investors' costs be limited to S$1000 or even many times higher?
Can anyone enlighten us on the above issues before we plunge into this class action? As I believe most of us would want to limit our liabilities in the worst case scenario.
January 15, 2009 10:32 PM
Ed said...

We're waiting for the "mid-January" answer/findings from MAS & FIs as well, before deciding on any legal action.
January 15, 2009 10:51 PM
 
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