Masks do nothing!

[tanwahtiu]

Nowadays, with internet you can find all kinds of articles and "research" to try to support whatever crazy idea I can have.

Which means either I am some clairvoyant genius (likely NOT) or the internet is full of bullshit information! LOL!

As it is written in the Bible Genesis 2:6 mist from the ground rises and fill the air with water and flood the earth....

So a 2nd man, Adam the slave, was created to toil the soil...

The recycle of 2:6 is coming.... misinformation will rise from the ground and flood the earth... time to reset this earth eliminate 2nd man, create a 3rd man coming....

 

[Leongsam]

Sigh. Hey Sam, I thought you were the guy that said just follow what the data says?

Now you go based on belief as well?

As you probably know, the "data" can be manipulated as well. And also every presentation of any data always has some kind of agenda or message behind it.

I've been out of family med for a while now. Today one of my cannabis patients said he is going to talk to his family doctor about his Hydrochlorothiazide for his HTN. He said it increases skin cancer! I had no idea about such a thing. But turns out he is right - because the data from some meta-analysis suggests an association. Gosh we have had HCTZ around for decades even before I started training to be Dr!

But oh well.....the data says so. Thank goodness I no longer manage HTN!

https://www.cfp.ca/content/66/2/116

Clinical question​

Does hydrochlorothiazide (HCTZ) increase the risk of squamous cell carcinoma (SCC)?

Bottom line​

Observational data suggest an association between HCTZ and the risk of SCC. Risk appears to consistently increase with dose and duration of use (eg, 5 years increases risk 3 to 4 times). Baseline incidence of SCC is less than 0.1% annually. The same risk has not been established with thiazidelike diuretics. The benefit of switching from HCTZ to another agent should be weighed against the risk of changing medications.

I am following what the data says. I just don't believe articles written by journalists with an agenda. I agree that data can be manipulated when presented in terms of % or probabilities. EG I often see reports that states some factor will increase cancer risk 3x which sounds shocking till you see that the risk has increased from 0.00001 to 0.00003 which then puts things in perspective.

However when it comes to Covid all I'm looking at a death and case counts and the trend to show which way they are headed. There is only so much that can be done to manipulate the figures eg use log scale instead of linear or play around with the x and y axis ref points.

Here is the data for influenza/pneumonia for the UK. I believe the numbers. If someone has a different source that says there were no flu deaths then please provide it otherwise I have to believe what is presented.

 

[Leongsam]

Here's the flu vs covid figures for the middle of 2020. Why do so many countries report the disappearance of flu while the opposite is happening in the UK.

Is the data wrong? If it is then say so and provide reliable data to disprove what is presented.

 

[face the facts]

human beings are simply not meant to wear masks in the long term (everyday)

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

I'm waiting for COvid 19 to evolve into a harmless flu strain so we can stop reading endless posts debating procs and cos of masks

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

If masks are so harmful, how about surgeons / doctors who wear them 12 hrs straight each day. They'd all be dead or dying by now.

 

[nayr69sg]

If masks are so harmful, how about surgeons / doctors who wear them 12 hrs straight each day. They'd all be dead or dying by now.

Yup. Make so much fuss complain so much ovee wearing a mask. In many cases is nice comfortable cloth masks.

Those complain complain one likely complain about a lot of other things in life also.

It is just the mentaliy of some. Kpkb. Everywhere in the world will find them. They cannot take hardship. Cannot take inconvenience. Cannot take hard work. Basically losers who want to be entitled.