Manchester United Season 2019 - 2020

[Gallego99]

I hope United is not going to fall for the Raiola's tricks. He knows there isn't much value left for this 'negrito' client. It is highly unlikely he'll see a huge paycheck. He's twisting Ed's arm to give Pogba an undeserved bumper contract. United should just ditch Pogba and get whatever they can. Otherwise they will have to do what Arse did to Ozil and freeze him out for good.

The last time a player tried to pull off a similar stunt was Nani and his agent. It was at the final third of the season and United's manager then was none other Sir Alex Ferguson. Box him up and ship him out.

 

[nayr69sg]

I hope United is not going to fall for the Raiola's tricks. He knows there isn't much value left for this 'negrito' client. It is highly unlikely he'll see a huge paycheck. He's twisting Ed's arm to give Pogba an undeserved bumper contract. United should just ditch Pogba and get whatever they can. Otherwise they will have to do what Arse did to Ozil and freeze him out for good.

The last time a player tried to pull off a similar stunt was Nani and his agent. It was at the final third of the season and United's manager then was none other Sir Alex Ferguson. Box him up and ship him out.

Who was the manager who bought Pogba? Sell him back to that manager.

 

[Gallego99]

Oh noe, it was Mou. The Portuguese will clobber him to death. Raiola and Pogba were the perfect partners in crime and they're still at it.

 

[no_faith]

What happen if Bruno injured for the whole season?

 

[nayr69sg]

What happen if Bruno injured for the whole season?

No problem Donny Van De Beek will step up.

Same with McTominay.

OGS will come good.

ManU will draw 0-0 with Leipzig. They only need a draw. Leipzig need a win. So sit back and do counter attack. Leipzig need to win. Let them attack. Leave space at the back. Counter. ManU team is sell suited for this strategy.

ManU will do the same with ManCity. 0-0 as well.

 

[no_faith]

No problem Donny Van De Beek will step up.

Same with McTominay.

OGS will come good.

ManU will draw 0-0 with Leipzig. They only need a draw. Leipzig need a win. So sit back and do counter attack. Leipzig need to win. Let them attack. Leave space at the back. Counter. ManU team is sell suited for this strategy.

ManU will do the same with ManCity. 0-0 as well.

If mentality is draw sure die

 

[nayr69sg]

If mentality is draw sure die

Siao liao. Man U losing 2-0 at halftime.

But you never know. Maybe Rashford super skill, Greenwood prodigy, Fernandes penalty then win 3-2!

Or OGS throw on Pogba and he score hat trick! Then sure give him new bumper contract plus 40m to Raiola also

 

[Qantas]

Siao liao. Man U losing 2-0 at halftime.

But you never know. Maybe Rashford super skill, Greenwood prodigy, Fernandes penalty then win 3-2!

Or OGS throw on Pogba and he score hat trick! Then sure give him new bumper contract plus 40m to Raiola also

Hate to burst your bubble

 

[nayr69sg]

Hate to burst your bubble

Almost lah! Good effort. At least they tried! Which is good.

Showing signs of improvement. OGS is getting it right slowly.

Now this weekend need to go out and draw with Man City!

 

[Gallego99]

They lost it at Istanbul. The results last night was pretty much expected, more so with DG between the sticks. He is simply awful. When he makes one on one challenges, he simply looks away. I guess he's afraid of the boot or the ball hitting his pretty face. As long as this bloke plays, we are not going to win anything.
City will beat United this weekend. OGS will stick by this useless keeper again.

 

[Gallego99]

'David de Gea BOTTLES it. He's scared of getting hurt... he actually makes himself smaller': Paul Scholes slams 'CRIMINAL' goalkeeping which led to RB Leipzig's crucial third - with Man United legend slating 'wooden' Harry Maguire too.......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...Gea-scared-getting-hurt-RB-Leipzigs-goal.html

When is OGS going to learn that he needs to give Dean Henderson a chance. Sack Ole!!!!

 

[nayr69sg]

'David de Gea BOTTLES it. He's scared of getting hurt... he actually makes himself smaller': Paul Scholes slams 'CRIMINAL' goalkeeping which led to RB Leipzig's crucial third - with Man United legend slating 'wooden' Harry Maguire too.......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...Gea-scared-getting-hurt-RB-Leipzigs-goal.html

When is OGS going to learn that he needs to give Dean Henderson a chance. Sack Ole!!!!

No must give OGS time.

I agree should give Dean Henderson a chance.

Also he needs to play Pogba.

Give Pogba the bumper contract. Build the team around Pogba.

We will see a reaction from this great team this weekend. They will draw with mighty Man City.

 

[laksaboy]

Could be a blessing in disguise... this Man United team will be raped by other teams in the latter stages of the CL, especially the domestic 'rivals'.

Just avoid Tottenham/Mourinho in the EL and pray for the best.

 

[yinyang]

Score ratings of players speak for themselves:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/55219522

Bruno Fernandes
Average rating
4.47

Pogba
Average rating
4.20

van de Beek
Average rating
3.84

Rashford
Average rating
3.61

Greenwood
Average rating
3.55

McTominay
Average rating
3.24

Williams
Average rating
3.18

Tuanzebe
Average rating
3.18

Fosu-Mensah
Average rating
2.90

Alex Telles
Average rating
2.83

Matic
Average rating
2.82

de Gea
Average rating
2.75

Squad number2Player nameLindelöf
Average rating
2.67

Squad number29Player nameWan-Bissaka
Average rating
2.60

Squad number23Player nameShaw
Average rating
2.59

Maguire
2.54

 

[yinyang]

Man Utd count cost of Champions League exit against RB Leipzig
By Phil Dawkes BBC Sport

Manchester United were knocked out at the group stage in a Champions League campaign for the first time since 2015-16, when they were managed by Louis van Gaal

Manchester United players slumped to the turf at full-time in Germany on Tuesday in acknowledgement of what their latest pedestrian first-half display had cost them.
The 3-2 loss at RB Leipzig means United will not be one of the 16 teams in the draw for the knockout stages of the Champions League.

And this is not the only price for failure.
The damage will be felt in the accounts, in the dealings they have with current and potentially future players and in the faith the fans have placed in manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
With Paul Pogba's agent angling for a move for his client and ex-United defender Phil Neville speaking of a "witchhunt" against his former team-mate Solskjaer, BBC Sport looks at the ramifications and reaction to a big loss for United.

• Man Utd knocked out of Champions League by RB Leipzig
• Paul Pogba: 'Inevitable is going to happen' after agent says Man Utd player is unhappy

A decade of Champions League failure
Solskjaer took ownership of Tuesday's loss, one which means he is now the first manager of a British club to lose six of his first 10 matches in the Champions League.
"We didn't perform as a team well enough. We never got going," he said. "That is the manager's responsibility."
However, the Norwegian's record is just a continuation of United's poor form in Europe since Sir Alex Ferguson departed the club.
Since finishing as runners-up in 2010-11 under the Scot, who had previously won the tournament twice during his reign at Old Trafford, the Red Devils have not made it past the quarter-finals, last reaching that stage in 2018-19.
Their win percentage in the Champions League over the seven seasons since Ferguson left is 45.71%. In the seven years before that it was 61.33%.

Man Utd in Champions League - under Ferguson and since
	P	W	D	L	F	A	Win %	Best
Under Ferguson	194	105	50	39	339	188	54.12	Winners
Since Ferguson	35	16	7	12	49	36	45.71	QF

The failure to get out of the group stage on this occasion is perhaps easier to defend than in 2014-15, when they finished third behind Wolfsburg and PSV Eindhoven and 2011-12, when Benfica and Basel beat them to qualification.
But it remains a disappointment to a side that would have hoped to finish above one of RB Leipzig or Paris St-Germain, especially after beating both in their first two Group H games.
However, while the Europa League is scant consolation right now, it does offer United a further opportunity for European success, in a competition they won four seasons ago.

United lose pounds and possibly Pogba?
BBC Sport's Simon Stone:
Amazingly, since reaching the final in 2011, United have won only two individual Champions League knockout round matches, in 2014 when David Moyes' side came back from a 2-0 first-leg deficit to beat Olympiakos and in 2019, in that amazing night against PSG, when Marcus Rashford's injury-time penalty overturned a two-goal defeat from the first leg at Old Trafford.
But apart from the football side - and more inevitable questions about Solskjaer and his ridiculously inconsistent team - there are also the financial consequences to think about.
Had United reached the quarter-finals of the Champions League, they would have earned themselves an additional 21m euros (£19.04m) in prize money alone. Reaching the same phase of the Europa League will get them 3.1m euros (£2.81m). These sums will actually be higher because of the distribution of the central market pool but that only serves to widen the gap.
Through the size of their stadium, United are suffering more than most from the continued absence of fans - currently in excess of £100m since the pandemic began - so missing out on this lucrative revenue stream hurts.
It will sharpen minds before next month's transfer window, as Mino Raiola agitates for the cut-price sale of Pogba, Sergio Romero and Marcos Rojo hang around on huge salaries without getting near to the first team and Solskjaer looks for reinforcements to strengthen his squad.

'A witch-hunt to get Ole out of a job'
Six wins from 10 league games has left United sixth in the Premier League table, five points behind leaders Tottenham with a game in hand. Hardly the record of a failing side.
They have made a habit, though, of falling behind in games before rallying to win, including their past two league games - at Southampton and West Ham.
They did the same on Tuesday, going 2-0 down inside 13 minutes to goals from Angelino and Amadou Haidara, before Justin Kluivert scored a third.
This time they were unable to recover, despite the best efforts of Bruno Fernandes and Paul Pogba.
It will further fuel the dissenting voices to Solskjaer's position as manager, although ex-United defender Phil Neville was quick to defend his former United team-mate.
"I think there is an awful narrative - the minute United lose a game it seems a disaster. It's not a disaster, it's a disappointment," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.
"There are United teams in the past with better managers than Ole that have gone out at this stage and there are managers in the league that are below United that don't get the same stick that Ole gets.
"The narrative inside the club is far different from outside where there seems to be a total witch-hunt to get this boy out of a job."

'We didn't perform'
United's manager and captain made no excuses for the defeat.
"We spoke about what they would do early in the game," said Solskjaer. "We needed to manage it and we didn't manage it well enough.
"We did everything we would normally do in preparation. We know that everyone wants to be up for a game like this. Sometimes it takes players 15-20 minutes to get going but maybe we are not streetwise enough.
"Today it didn't work for us. Of course we were up for it. The character and effort I can't fault."
United captain Maguire echoed these sentiments.
"We started the game too slow," he told BT Sport. "It wasn't good enough - the first 20 minutes we weren't at it. They put two balls in the box and we failed to deal with them.
"We have to look at ourselves, we gave ourselves too much to do. You've seen how close we came at the end but we started too slow and we can't keep falling behind.
"We said on Saturday at half-time, 2-0 down, the next goal is crucial and we said it again tonight. They made it 3-0 and the task becomes even bigger. The third goal proved to be the crucial one but even three down we came close at the end.
"I don't want to look at excuses. We have to go out and be aggressive, win balls. That's the basics. If you can't defend crosses you're going to lose games. I don't want to look at shape - it's not an excuse.
"It's a tough group but we felt we should get through. That's the standards of this club. I'm gutted for everyone, we worked so hard to reach this competition. No matter what group we got it would be tough. We have to do more."

 

[yinyang]

 

[no_faith]

Miracle? The turks do manutd a favour tonight?

 

[Gallego99]

3-5-2 ain't gonna work. I've lost count on the number of times Bissaka failed to address the gap on the left. Sack OLE!

 

[yinyang]

After Maradona, now

Pedro Silva
10 December 2020
Paolo Rossi
Paolo Rossi, 1982 World Cup hero died today December 9.

 

[yinyang]

How, derby with blue side Manchester?

Manchester United 17:30 Manchester City
Venue: Old Trafford
Manchester United v Manchester City

TEAM NEWS
Manchester United's Anthony Martial is fit again after missing the midweek Champions League defeat by RB Leipzig with a minor injury.
Fellow forward Edinson Cavani, who also did not travel for that game, will be assessed.

Manchester City's Sergio Aguero will be on the bench after making a scoring return in Europe in midweek.
Ilkay Gundogan, who picked up a knock in that Champions League match, trained on Friday but Eric Garcia is out.

MOTD COMMENTATOR'S NOTES
Guy Mowbray: The league table doesn't lie, but it might not tell the full story.
United start the derby above City and could be in the top four with a game in hand by next week. Not bad for a team that's making hard work of too many games this season and has just spectacularly crashed out of the Champions League.
They've come from behind in five of their six Premier League wins. Maybe the stress helps them to switch on and perform? Whatever. It's not sustainable.
By contrast, City look to have put early-season stresses and errors behind them.
They're currently on a run of five clean sheets in a row and have only conceded in two of their past 10 matches. Perhaps tellingly they were the biggest two, against Spurs and Liverpool.
It's the 183rd Manchester derby, and hopefully the only one that will ever be played without fans. If United go behind again, the relative quiet might briefly be a blessing for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

LAWRO'S PREDICTION
Manchester United look so uncomfortable defensively that it is hard to have much faith in them at the moment.
Their Champions League exit just heaps the pressure on manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer because, for all the spirit his side have shown with their comebacks in different games this season, to not be getting any more revenue from that competition in a season like this one is a massive blow to the club.
The last thing United need is to follow that with a home defeat by City, but that's what I'm going for. Pep Guardiola's side have only lost one of their past 15 games and they have started to score goals again too.
Prediction: 0-2
Lawro's full predictions v Lonely The Brave drummer Mo Edgeley

MATCH FACTS
Head-to-head

• Manchester United won three of the four meetings last season, including doing the Premier League double over their neighbours for the first time in a decade.
• The Red Devils could win three consecutive Manchester derbies in all competitions for the first time since 2009.
• Six of the past eight Manchester derbies in all competitions have been won by the away team, while there have only been three home wins in 13.
• Manchester City have won seven Premier League away games at Old Trafford, more than any other visiting side.
• There have been 150 top-flight Manchester derbies - United have won 58 and City 45, with 47 draws.

Manchester United

• United could win five consecutive league matches for the first time since they won Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's first six in charge between December 2018 and January 2019.
• Four of Manchester United's 19 league points have come at home this season, along with only three of their 19 goals. They have conceded 10 league goals at Old Trafford.
• United can lose at least four of their opening six home league fixtures for just the second time, having suffered five defeats in 1930-31.
• They have only twice lost more than three Premier League home games in an entire season: 2001-02 and 2013-14.
• Manchester United have won a league-high 15 points from losing positions this season - but all these comebacks have come away from home,
• Bruno Fernandes has been involved in more Premier League goals than any other player since his United debut in February, scoring 15 and contributing 11 assists in just 24 games.

Manchester City

• City are looking to win three league matches in a row for the first time this season.
• They scored seven goals without reply in their previous two league games.
• Pep Guardiola's side haven't kept three clean sheets in a row in the league since May 2019.
• Manchester City dropped points in seven of their past 12 Premier League away fixtures (W5, D2, L5).
• They have lost six of their past eight away league fixtures against other established top-six sides, including each of the last four.
• Raheem Sterling has never scored in 16 Premier League appearances against Manchester United.
• The most recent English player to score in a Premier League Manchester derby for City was James Milner in 2013.